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Women genetically less intelligent than Men?


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reply posted on 28-5-2009 @ 07:25 AM by rhinoceros


Didn't bother reading the thread, but yes, statistically speaking women score less than men in IQ tests. If we agree that those tests measure intelligence, then we can conclude that on average women are less intelligent than men (like on average Africans are less intelligent than Europeans and Europeans are less intelligent than certain Asian populations). But remember, this is statistics. My sister for example is for sure more intelligent than Joe Average. I'm thinkin she would land somewhere betweem 120 and 140, which is quite typical for academics. Joe Average with IQ of 100 is imo not very intelligent at all. I'm around 150 and see myself as very average, I can't even begin to imagine how the mind of a person with IQ of 100 is. And to think that it's just the average. That means there are tons of people with IQ of less than 100. Does critical thought exist @ 90? How about 80? Some people really get a terrible hand when it comes to genes..

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reply posted on 28-5-2009 @ 07:26 AM by Hazelnut


Looks like your post is boosting your points quite admirably. That's proof of superior intelligence right there, eh?



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reply posted on 28-5-2009 @ 03:18 PM by Aim64C


Originally posted by Sonya610
Originally posted by mortalengineMen are more logically intelligent than women, if we're talking about a smart man vs a smart woman. There isn't any real comparison there to be honest, men are simply more analytical and logical than woman.


If men and women with the same IQ are compared to each other, yes I would agree that MOST of the time the men will be more logical. However many posters in this thread are saying "well there aren't any female Einsteins therefore men are smarter than women" which is utterly ridiculous.

There are a heck of a lot of stupid men in the world. Those that believe they are smarter than most women because the share the same XX chromosones as Einstein are living proof of that.


I think the answer is not so easily defined by simple single-dimension metrics.

Not to brag - but I'm often considered scarily intelligent, observant, and have no restrictions with regards to my aptitudes. My opinions are often given a lot of weight amongst people who know me.

Of course, I know at least two women whom I consider my superior. Ironically, they tend to come to me (or another guy) to reinforce their viewpoint. Usually - if they have an plan or idea - I consider it to be brighter than my own.

It just seems women tend to want a male to make a decision.

That's not to say women can't make a decision - but that they tend to prefer to run it by a guy.

I also think that the presence of a male tends to place a woman at ease (of course - assuming their relation is not hostile). One of my friends consistently notes how my mere 'presence' (even if only online) seems to make it easier for her to work through a variety of homework-related problems.

I've noticed the same thing with other people - a girl will call me over and ask me to help them with a problem, they'll show me what's going on and go back over their steps, and then find the problem as they are explaining the problem to me (it works even when they are working math that is well ahead of what I'm studying).

So, I figure it's a sort of confidence thing - knowing that they have someone covering their back, and not competitive in the same manner as guys usually are.

Of course, by that same token, when a girl asks me a question - I learn/recall the answer exceptionally quickly - though I don't know if it is for the same reason girls tend to be more adept when in the presence of a male friend/companion.



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reply posted on 28-5-2009 @ 03:41 PM by Aeons


Most people are influenced by emotion.

The ones who think that they are not, or that they are "naturally" less influenced by emotion are instead so influenced by it that they cannot even SEE themselves.

How "rational" is that?!?

My very intelligent husband's brain turns off in emergencies. My ex who had a high IQ, was the stupidest person I have ever met in some ways and was very bad in emergencies.

Whereas I am rational enough, even in an emergency, to be able to think for myself and several other people - sometimes several other uncooperative people.

My daily job requires logic.

Men are FAR from unemotional. The idea that men might be superior due to a "lack" or a "control" of emotion is ridiculous. Look at the male dominated societies around the planet. Look at them in history. Most of those societies are completely controlled by male emotion.

Most of their retarded laws that make no sense are based around this supposed "rational" mind but are really meant to be pancea's to male insecurity. The complete lack of anything approaching logic and rationality found in most male dominated societies proves out what a ridiculous idea this is all together.



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reply posted on 28-5-2009 @ 03:47 PM by Aeons


Originally posted by Sonya610
Originally posted by mortalengineMen are more logically intelligent than women, if we're talking about a smart man vs a smart woman. There isn't any real comparison there to be honest, men are simply more analytical and logical than woman.


If men and women with the same IQ are compared to each other, yes I would agree that MOST of the time the men will be more logical. However many posters in this thread are saying "well there aren't any female Einsteins therefore men are smarter than women" which is utterly ridiculous.

There are a heck of a lot of stupid men in the world. Those that believe they are smarter than most women because the share the same XX chromosones as Einstein are living proof of that.


There are more male Einsteins because....men are more expendable in the game of life. So one-offs to see if they can be different AND still breed are best tried out in males. Plus, having only one X there will be less tendency for averaging out between two potential dominant chromosones. They only get one chance, and the effects of the recombination from coming through from their mother's recombination is a purer test of genetic sustainability.



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reply posted on 28-5-2009 @ 03:55 PM by SonyAD


Hi. Some really smart folks 'round here. Could someone pls. help me over smth.?

I need, I crave to know what is the area of overlap between two random triangles as a function of their tips.

Let me rephrase. What is the area of the surface contained within both triangles, knowing the x and y coordinates of their tips, the vertices?

Please, a single equation. No algorithm, no computing of intersection between edges or other lines or line segments. No possibility of division by 0. No decisional blocks. Welcome to use absolute() as in |-7| = 7 to emulate such, though.

Alternatively, why it can't be done.

2D geometry, of course. Triangles are coplanar.

Thanks, would really mean a lot.



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reply posted on 6-6-2009 @ 04:17 PM by SonyAD


Nothing?
Nothing at all?



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reply posted on 6-6-2009 @ 09:47 PM by funny_pom


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There is a difference between being educated and having genetic, and therefore biological intelligence. The latter does not exist and is called biological determinism and is the same sort of thing as thinking white people are more intelligent because they are white.

ALL of Homo sapien sapiens have the same capacity for intelligence and that includes the two sexes. The fact that there have not been any female Einsteins is a sociological factor, not biological.

can males have bigger brains than females, of cause, but that is because of males having more body mass, which needs more brain to control. The neanderthal had a bigger brain volume than sapien, and anyone who said they were more intelligent than us would offend plenty of folk i dare say.

Will there be a be a theory on par with Einsteins theory of relativity envisioned by a woman, of cause there will. there are plenty of women in various fields of science today, and their work does not go unread because of them being a woman.



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reply posted on 14-6-2009 @ 03:48 AM by SonyAD


What is the area of the surface contained within both triangles, knowing the x and y coordinates of their tips, the vertices?

Please, a single equation. No algorithm, no computing of intersection between edges or other lines or line segments. No possibility of division by 0. No decisional blocks. Welcome to use absolute() as in |-7| = 7 to emulate such, though.

Alternatively, why it can't be done.

2D geometry, of course. Triangles are coplanar.



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reply posted on 15-6-2009 @ 12:51 PM by Aeons


Do your own homework boy.



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reply posted on 15-6-2009 @ 02:51 PM by DaMod


I'm going to chime in here, because people do not seem to know the normal IQ.

Grade Range Percent
Genius 144 0.13%
Gifted 130-144 2.14%
Above average 115-129 13.59%
Higher average 100-114 34.13%
Lower average 85-99 34.13%
Below average 70-84 13.59%
Borderline low 55-69 2.14%
Low



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reply posted on 15-6-2009 @ 04:48 PM by Aeons


See I just find it a funny assertion in general.

Males don't have unique nDNA under the vast majority of cases.

When a set of two Xs get together in the egg, they recombine to form two new recombined X chromosones. XX is a girl.

Males get one entire X, unaltered, from their mother.

Intelligence is a trait that would found on the X chromosone.

There really isn't that much on the Y. Androgenizing effect. If you'll develop hair in your ears as you get older (see, The Universe has a sense of humour).

So, genetically, what a male is they get from their Mother. So, how can one be "more" "genetically" intelligent if your what you have is all from a woman? And what you got from your Dad doesn't contribute to your "genetically" influenced intelligence?

The fact that this doesn't occur to people who think that they are more intelligent because they are men, always amuses the hell out of me.

Better, if a man wants to have children with a woman who isn't smart - well that means that one's SONS are unlikely to be all that bright. Considering one would probably prefer sons because they are "more intelligent" this is also highly amusing. Worse, if you happen to be a somewhat intelligent guy, your DAUGHTERS are more likelyt to end up being the smarter of the children you have with a dumb woman.

Funny. The Universe has a hilarious sense of humour.



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reply posted on 15-6-2009 @ 10:01 PM by Gorman91


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Intelligence is equal, how we interpret things is different. As a man I immediately ask my friend Science to explain it. If he can't help, I ask my friend Logic to help Science. if those two eggheads can't do it, I ask Spiritual and Emotional to go on the worktable. Most of the women I've seen ask Emotional first, then ask the other three to the work bench all together. The end result will probably be the same more than often. And it is really situation specific as to which way is better. Some things require the later way of thinking, others require the first way of thinking. In the end, it's really evolutionarily great. It requires men and women to work together in social groups. It is the key to our success as a species.

Of course I seem to be a hybrid of both some times. Perhaps being the source for the reason that I am better than most of my male friends, as they all are locked into that behavior, I have no problem consulting both ways of thinking and seeing which way is better.


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reply posted on 16-6-2009 @ 02:31 AM by SonyAD


Originally posted by Aeons
Do your own homework boy.

Won't you please help me with my homework, sir?

What is the area of the surface contained within both triangles, knowing the x and y coordinates of their tips, the vertices?

Please, a single equation. No algorithm, no computing of intersection between edges or other lines or line segments. No possibility of division by 0. No decisional blocks. Welcome to use absolute() as in |-7| = 7 to emulate such, though.

Alternatively, why it can't be done.

2D geometry. Triangles are coplanar.



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