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Originally posted by Heike
Now, my point. In order to postulate that women have been "dumbed down" by generations of repression or lack of education, one would have to assume that men have selected women for reproduction based on lack of intelligence.
Thus I think it likely that men chose in favor of intelligent women despite lack of formal education because their basic potential intelligence caused them to be more successful in other more "acceptable" areas of their lives.
Originally posted by dragonridr
Oh and woman tend to do better in logic and guys handle abstract better
Originally posted by mystiq
Yes, and royalty interbred for years and turned out some pretty strange maladies. In genetics the larger the gene pool the greater the genetic health. The pretty skully maid had a real chance of possessing good genetic material to increase the genetic pool.
Originally posted by Ghost147
*slaps lucid* lol i hope you didnt actually mean it when you asked that. damn internet, it can show love, rage and respect, but never sarcasm.
Over 60% of gifted people are introverted compared with 30% of the general population. Over 75% of highly gifted people are introverted. (The percentage of introverts seems to increase with IQ (Silverman).) Introversion correlates with introspection, reflection, the ability to inhibit
aggression, deep sensitivity, moral development, high academic achievement, scholarly contributions, leadership in academic and aesthetic fields in adult life, and smoother passage through mid-life; however, it is very likely to be misunderstood and "corrected" in children.
1) Since so much comes easily to them, they may never acquire the self-discipline necessary to use their gifts to the fullest. A gifted child who drifts in school unrecognized will work chronically below her capacity and receive daily practice in habits of idleness and daydreaming.
2) Gifted people are typically capable of so many different kinds of success that they have trouble confining themselves to a reasonable number of pursuits. Some of them are lost to usefulness through spreading their available time and energy over such a wide array of projects that nothing can be finished or done well.
3) Gifted people have trouble learning to suffer fools gladly, or at all. Failure to learn how to tolerate in a reasonable fashion the foolishness of others leads to bitterness, disillusionment and misanthropy.
4) Gifted people tend to become isolated from the rest of humanity. Gifted children strive to play with other children but their efforts are defeated by the fact that other children do not share their interests, their vocabulary or their desire to organize activities. As a result, forms of solitary play develop, and these may explain the fact that many highly intelligent adults are shy, ungregarious and even misanthropic and uncomfortable in ordinary social interaction.
5) Gifted people, detecting the illogical conduct of those in charge of their affairs, may turn rebellious against all authority and develop negativism to a conspicuous degree. Negative individuals abound in every high IQ society. (*Note - I'm not sure this is all bad, but then, I'm a cynic.)
Those who test above 180 IQ are characterized by a strong desire for personal privacy.
The really difficult problems of adjustment to life and to people come to those who test above 170 IQ.
The more intelligent a person is, the less often can he or she find a truly congenial companion.
Studies of child prodigies have shown that a large proportion of them were first-born or only children or in some other "special" position in the family, perhaps a late last child.
Highly intelligent people are often very frustrated by the irrationality around them. Said Jeff Ward of Mega: "a fair number of [high IQ people] are reclusive or even misanthropic, with a common thread of frustration."
What is normal for the gifted is most often labeled as neurosis in the general population. (Azpeitia and Rocamora.)
At the University of New South Wales, Gross conducted a longitudinal study of 60 Australians who scored at least 160 on IQ tests beginning in the late '80s. Today most of the 33 students who were not allowed to skip grades have jaded views of education, and at least three are dropouts. "These young people find it very difficult to sustain friendships because, having been to a large extent socially isolated at school, they have had much less practice ... in developing and maintaining social relationships," Gross has written. "A number have had counseling. Two have been treated for severe depression." By contrast, the 17 kids who were able to skip at least three grades have mostly received Ph.D.s, and all have good friends.
Since at least the mid-1980s, schools have often forced gifted students to stay in age-assigned grades - even though a 160-IQ kid trying to learn at the pace of average, 100-IQ kids is akin to an average girl trying to learn at the pace of a retarded girl with an IQ of 40. Advocates for gifted kids consider one of the most pernicious results to be “cooperative learning” arrangements in which high-ability students are paired with struggling kids on projects. [Emphasis, The Stiletto’s.]
Many gifted and talented children (and adults) are being mis-diagnosed by psychologists, psychiatrists, pediatricians, and other health care professionals. The most common mis-diagnoses are: Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD), Oppositional Defiant Disorder (OD), Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD), and Mood Disorders such as Cyclothymic Disorder, Dysthymic Disorder, Depression, and Bi-Polar Disorder. These common mis-diagnoses stem from an ignorance among professionals about specific social and emotional characteristics of gifted children which are then mistakenly assumed by these professionals to be signs of pathology.
Originally posted by Ghost147
reply to post by Lucid Lunacy
lol, might as well just put all of them on it. (i dont actually meen that, lol, just incase anyone thought i did)
Originally posted by mopusvindictus
most geniuses drop out...
Originally posted by skeptic1
reply to post by Lucid Lunacy
I think the drop out rate can be attributed, in part, to boredom.