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I'm just wondering.. did any thread on ATS predict 9/11? Was there enough information available to predict it? I don't think a thread on ATS is going to find out the next big conspiracy, but then again, I wasn't around pre-9/11 days on this site.

Can anybody find out for me what the web-bot has to say about this stuff? I have tried to find out, but I can't. I think you have to pay.
Anyhow, these prediction threads are getting out of control. There are at least three separate threads indicating that something is about to happen VERY SOON. If so, the web-bot should be warning people. If it is, I would consider this collobarative evidence. If not, I am sitting on the fence until these dates pass uneventful.

This guy is a soothsayer, for christ's sake.

This week will bring with it a couple events that could stretch our imagination further.

Many lines are converging:

Political (elections,desperation, window closing fast. Related to other points)
Economic (Don't have to explain this one and it's related to the other points)
Social (banking panic, unrest, political wars of factions. Related to all points.)
Military (war, windows closing on action re:Iran / Georgia etc relates to other points and is the only point where any pressure release is possible in economic (war economy), social (lots to talk about and debate), political (elections on hold or differed, a war leader is chosen) ) I know this little chart like deduction method is unusual but all points are maxxed out. The only real avenue to relieve the pressure is militarily. Terror, new battles etc.

The drivers for a great "pressure release" are all around us and this week SOMETHING has to change and in a big way. This is what is driving people crazy, both the doom sayers and positive thinkers. We are in no mans land right now and either something beautiful or something terrible has to happen. the steam has to come out of an orifice or the kettle will blow.

I don't necessarily believe the ones with visions and if those visions come true it's still not enough to say that they were right. More like they were thinking logically. Logically something HAS TO give this week and in any case it's going to be uncomfortable for many. Someone has to lose if some are to gain or be relieved.

Logically, the DOW will fall.
Logically, terror will happen (all the words this week from the caves).

Doomsayers will claim this as theirs and that's why they are putting themselves out there now as its a SURE OBVIOUS BET even to the logical thinkers.

Second guessing and pre empting the future will always be done.

But often some of the reactions to a thread I find more interesting.

For example without direct quoting people as I am more looking at the moods and responses this kind of thing generates,

Some discuss the bravery and the fight and the response to such an event....

Interesting that, 911 killed almost 3000 people, UNICEF have estimated since the invasion of afghanistan and iraq - 7 Million muslims have died - thats one hell of a response

In that same view - if, and when, a half or one kiloton yield device goes off (small enough for a backpack or box or as tom clancy suggests a vending machine) actually goes off in a city - anything from 25 to 60 thousand will die instantly possibly rising to match hiroshimas 80 thousand, and in the years after with cancers and leukemias or related illness perhaps 150 thousand

What kind of response would that promote?

If your country is nuked and say 50 thousand of your fellow citizens are vaporized? Will you sign up and step forward to take the fight to them? Will they even need a ..... Wants You! for the army poster?

What is logical about the phonecall is simply its suggestion that a nuclear event will occur. And its logic that if you wanted to then a valley area or minimal target with maximum impact is ideal.

911 - 3000 deaths - maximum impact and minimal casualties and damage.

Considering you have dropped 2 builidings at peak time in a dense area - I would say thats minimal casualties and damage as they didnt topple - they didnt go down with most of the regaular occupants trapped inside ... and so on

So a nuclear (false flag) op, it would be best to guess would warrant similar contingency.

If we are to dominate and secure the entire middle east and put Iran to rest - they will need conscription, or at best a lot of volunteers......

So to make people really want to volunteer you need to punch them hard on the nose to get their attention first

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I have the web bot report for you:

What are you going to do when the lights go out?
Web Bot Report Foresees OCTOBER 7th, 2008 as the "Turning Point" .
UPDATE ON WEB BOT PREDICTIONS FOR THE COMING WEEKS / MONTHS / YEARS:
Coast to coast Radio with George and Cliff the "Time Monks"
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RELATED: Web Bot Report Foresees October 7 "Turning Point"

"The Time Monks" of the Web Bot Project answered questions on Coast to Coast radio during the early morning hours on September 22nd, 2008.

Firstly, here is a short recap to the previous Web Bot interview from September 2nd, 2008:

" The Web Bots see September 22-27, 2008 as precursor dates to the main turning point date of October 7, 2008.
Closely watch events during September 22-27, 2008 for hints as to what to expect on October 7, 2008.

Cliff said whenever "it" happens, and whatever "it" turns out to be, "it" will be a date in history you remember like 9/11, we will remember 10/7.

The Web Bots foresee that October 7, 2008 to February 19, 2009 will be filled with emotional intensity, and the length of the release period will be extraordinary. The Web Bots have never picked up any event lasting this long. In comparison, 9/11 length lasted about 10 days. This event will be four months of high emotion......."
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Based upon the September 22nd interview on Coast to Coast radio with the Time Monks, here is an outline of what the Web Bots have uncovered for the following weeks, months and years:

The next year will get very ugly and will change your life worse than 9/11.
It is important to understand the magnitude of the data.
The sort of agony, grief, pain and rage that was felt the six days following 9/11 will be felt for five and a half months. From October 7th, 2008 until March of next year....
Will there be a total economic collapse?
Yes. 2009 will be a "year of transformation." The keyword "monumental" shows up as how the future will view our current situation. Time Monks describe this as an "epic situation"

How to prepare for what's coming?
The Time Monks say:

Have a plan in place to be as independent of the institutions of society as you can possibly get. Prepare for a situation in which you will have no water, food, electricity or heat. Have clothing for all seasons and EXTRA MEDICINE. Possibility of oil going up to $500 a barrel, also possible massive deflation from nobody buying anything. This is the kind of thing where the other nations on the planet will be so scared of whats going to happen in the U.S. that they will begin preparing, fearing that the U.S. will go crazy. This includes mobilizing military.

Try not to panic, we have a couple of weeks. You can not store enough to get you by indefinitely. A situation my arise in which you may need to move or be relocated.
Time Monks do not advocate bank runs because money may become useless.
Says longer term data "implies money is less intense part of society than it is now."

September 22nd - 27th - The Plateau of building tension.
On October 6th, 11:59 pm, the planet is going to go through a "period of release" following the traumatic event. The information will spread very quickly due to technology. The release language will start at the point of impact.

The event could be something such as a "false flag terror attack" in some part of the world, U.S. may not necessarily be at epi-center of said event. It could also be a "slow boil" event such as a bio-agent released. There are expected elements of a prequel that will set the stage for the event, between the dates of September 15th-September 27th.

Is this a self fulfilling prophecy?
Time Monks say this is possible.

Is there something worse looming?
"The situation is complex, not a single trigger. 45-58% economic, 40% military, the rest is terra activity."

Really big numbers popped up that are quite worrying. Somewhere between 2 to 22 million lives will be drastically effected by the event.

It is possible that a manufactured terror event will lead to terrible things.
Possibility of martial law or military reaction to terror event, real or manufactured.
Is this inevitable?
Time Monks do not know. Cite the possibility that if enough people get the message it may be possible to hijack the future based upon knowing about "constant co-creation".

December 10th-12th, 2008 - China sized earthquake in Pacific NW.
In 2009 there will be a global coastal event.
This does not necessarily mean a tsunami. If you live around water it would be good to have a boat.

Are there other think tanks who are saying something similar not based on the same system?
"We know the Chinese are into this.": Similar language grabbing program with much larger chunks. Time Monks tracked these techniques back to a Chinese super computing center.

Are U.S. agencies using Web bots?
There seems to be a suggestion it's too "woo woo" for them. They have used remote viewing in the past, but it's not as accurate as what we're doing. The current thinking in the military and alphabet organizations is that they want massive databases. They are looking for social networking. They think in terms of if they can find one terrorist they can find the rest of network. The web bot is not based on this style of gathering information. Web bot looks for big stuff. It's like comparing binoculars to a microscope. Web bot looks for MASSIVE Change. Web bot is not a "microscope" like military program. Also, these groups (military and alphabet organizations) may not need web bot if they're creating what is going to happen. The Time Monks contacted the CIA to take a look at what they have found and submitted a brief. CIA said it's interesting but they're not interested.

Anything about Antarctica/Global Warming?
Antarctica is very important to the "powers that be". 13% of linguistics related to the "powers that be" concern Antarctica. Antarctica is big key to whatever is driving them.

Anything to do with the Hadron Collider?
Time Monks not worried about Hadron Collider. Data so far indicates that the scientists at CERN are performing a "juggling act and keep dropping oranges". Doesn't show up in linguistics as a driver in what's about to occur.

Do you believe extraterrestrials are real and/or play a role?
Within consciousness, there is a distinct consciousness that is not human.

Clear that there is something outside of the human realm that drives the "powers that be".
There is "stuff" in the model space (of the web bot) that goes through the idea of "disappearances" beginning next year (relating to extraterrestrials). It's as if an inter-dimensional door opens up and people are sucked though the door and the door closes.
2009: Disappearance language gets more specific. Big changes. Some of the "powers that be" will disappear. "Powers that be" will be out and about with large groups of people with them and they will all disappear.
A lot of alien activity way off in the future.
Indications in language involving e.t.s (possible result of disinformation):

Alien wars are coming.

These alien events may or may not be real but people are acting as if they are real.

Things that Time Monks could not categorize/make sense of:
There is a device out and about in the world being chased down by the "powers that be".
Two whistle-blowers have a device in their hands and are on the run.

By just having the device they have created certain side effects that the "powers that be" couldn't have predicted. The Time Monks do not have a word for these devices. Relate it to a cave man trying to describe a modern gun.
Presidential Election
Won't be decided for some months past November.
Won't make any difference to what's happening.
Religion
Religious component. Religion will change in December between 12th to the 15th. Evangelicals will have an "un-burdening", Evangelicals will feel some sort of "shame".

Big revolution coming against the "powers that be".
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Keep Informed : urbansurvival.com...

War Drumming

The stories are popping up all over the place around Iran - as though to be setting the stage for whatever the "PowersThat Be" have planned as a shock-and-spin for October.

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Coping: Voluntary Lifestyle Downgrades

I started work (between everything else going on) yesterday on research for this weekend's www.Peoplenomics.com report. While working on it, what slowly dawned on me is that it may be time for most of the country to start penciling out "activity changes" in life.


Think of it this way: The predictive linguistics work has clearly labeled 2009 as a 'year of transformation' - and we've already gotten, as recounted in our lead story this morning, what may be the leading edge of a period when much of America will be involved in shortages, rationing, and what-have-yous.


It's easier to accept change when you decide the time and place yourself, rather than being forced to change when you're not especially keen on the idea. So one of the topics we'll be exploring this weekend is 'activity change' now.


The nickel's worth discussion goes something like this: If you can envision a change to a period when your electric power is off, your home is cold (and the pipes in danger of freezing in the winter), and when food is scarce and long lines to everything is the order of the day - gas at $20 a gallon, and so forth, what will your new activities be?

I mean besides standing in line?


There is a tremendous amount of "just in case" reading material out there which can point you along the way such at Dmitry Orlov's "Reinventing Collapse" which goes through many of the highlights of how the former Soviet Union (FSU) collapsed. Orlov points out, many times, that the Soviets were much better prepared for collapse than America because they had not regimented their lifestyle so tightly to the high consumption footprint we live today.


So this weekend, we'll get into 'activity change' in some detail, but as something to think about even if you don't subscribe to Peoplenomics - What are you going to do when the lights go out?

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I do not think Webbots, Bill Deagle, Archangel, Blossom Goodchild, Nouriel Roubini (economist), Alex Jones, Jeff Rense, George Noory, etc, etc, etc, are manipulating the public with fear mongering. some of you need to grow up and use whatever intelligence you have. The world is in its most volatile state ever since I have been alive (34yrs) or maybe anyone alive today. Such volatility economically, geopolitically, natural disaster, famine etc., could easily erupt such events Bill Deagle or Webbots have forecasted. The REALITY is that 98% of the people will scramble in panic when SHTF. And any day now S could HTF.

I'll tell you this, the USA will never, ever, be the same again as it was in its glory for a long time. We are at the beginning of the Collapse of Empire America. You want to be a fool and deny it, and respond sarcastically, you're only kidding yourself and in delusional denial. Beleive me I have found much success in the past and done well for myself. Meaning I'm not a Doom & Gloomer by any means. I am a risk taker and opportunist. I am also a realist and the reality is that the future ahead of us will be a time to focus on survival and sustainability, and I don't just mean in weeks or months to come. I mean years. The days of living a dillusional life imitating your favorite celebrity, sipping latte's, and living large are gone. Trust me. I don't see any other outcome at this point other than that of webbots, top economists (not media cheerleaders) and potentially Deagle too. Go now and choose your future be prepared or be a sheep.

Also, the visitors to this site are such a small, small, number of people. Those here are not sheep I would assume. Go look around and talk to random people as I do. They are clueless. They will continue to be clueless until they are standing in line at the bank, pink slipped at work, or having their house looted defending with a butter knife. 99% of Americans think their informed through mainstream media. They are not expecting anything to potentially occur calamatous in the near future. They I consider sheep, not ones prepared for the worst.

I'm listening now, and while it is interesting, I do have to wonder why this is treated as a dire warning here and the Oct 14th alien visit to Alabama is laughed at.

Not that I believe in either, but I'm just wondering the difference?

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Thanks for the report, seawolf! Star for the effort, most appreciated!

Alright, now we have something that *I* personally have a little more faith in. The correspondance between the different channels is astounding.
This is a lot of info to digest right now, I can't comment on it yet. I just wanted to give my thanks.

Index Change %Change Level Last Update *
Australia ASX 100 -72.60 -1.89% 3,764.00 10/6 11:09am
Australia ASX All Ords -89.40 -1.90% 4,613.40 10/6 11:09am
Australia ASX Mid-cap 50 -112.00 -2.45% 4,461.70 10/6 11:09am
Hong Kong Hang Seng -528.71 -2.90% 17,682.40 10/3 12:00am
Hong Kong HSCC Red Chip -110.68 -3.11% 3,450.73 10/3 12:00am
Japan Nikkei 225 -235.46 -2.15% 10,702.68 10/6 9:15am

Here's a look at asian markets, the way they do will probably effect Europe's markets leading to the effect it'll have on the US economy. SO far the agreement is a dropping economy. As Deagan said the problems will probably start in Europe. Just something to look out for. The result of other world economies for us, well who knows?

I do find merit in the web bot project. Especially, I find merit in the idea that the market predicts events, not REACTS to events.

The web bot project is based on a market prediction model so I have to believe the system might be able to transpose geopolitical data hand in hand with the market.

I tend to keep things logical and with all of the pressure in all facets of our communities right now I see only military / militant action being the only thing that is variable now. Every other facet is overburdened. Something indeed will go down in the next couple days. I am almost certain that Iran is going to smell what the Israelis are cooking on Monday or Tuesday. At the same time in the Americas I think we will be feeling the wrath of a few "top end" militant cells. I just hope I'm not in an area effected! My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone everywhere this week.

More bad economic news from Europe, similar to what we had a couple weeks ago. From CNN

money.cnn.com...

Listen to Zorgon, he knows what he is talking about.

Trust in yourself and your own instincts. Question EVERYTHING! Take personal responsibility for your posts and actions.

Do not believe everything you hear! Question what a person or websites motive might be for spreading Gloom and Doom. It is now an industry, and there is a lot of profit to be made for those that have websites selling FEAR. The egos involved in all of this are huge. They will never admit they are/were wrong, or take responsibility for the damage they create. They will preach Light and Love, but will feed you gloom and doom. And when and if the SHTF... you won't be able to find them because they are hiding someplace safe and secure on the money you sent them.

Please think for yourself. Live and enjoy your life. Love your friends and family. Support your community and country. Know that you are loved and needed more than you will ever know. Be cool. Stay calm, and meet the future head on with the knowledge that this too... shall pass.

Originally posted by bluewaterservant
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darkmdbener
please google earth

42 degrees 57min north by 82 degrees 25 min w

and page one this post

bluewater, I know exactly where this is , I am from port huron. I wish I knew you before I left.

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Good words to live by under any circumstances. I'm just trying to get my ducks in a row as this is fastly approaching. I believe this the real deal, ladies and gentlemen.

However, I would urge for people look at the UPside in all of this. This is a chance for us to stand united and shape the way the system will be rebuilt!!! We have a voice, let us use it. Not in violence, but in understanding!
This latest news about the Bailout extending into Germany is troublesome. The bubble that they are creating is becoming VERY large!
I am making preparations for being without for a little while, but, like you said, this WILL PASS. And HOPEFULLY we'll be better off for it!
Take care.

I don't understand how this "web-bot" got to be so prominent in predicting the future. I'm not sure how a computer can predict our future. I'm with a previous poster who asked why this thread is looked at as a dire warning and other doom and gloom threads are mocked?

My above post was in reference to the economic crash illustrated by the web-bot predictions.



[edit on 5-10-2008 by Jay-in-AR]

Originally posted by Ketzer22
I don't understand how this "web-bot" got to be so prominent in predicting the future. I'm not sure how a computer can predict our future. I'm with a previous poster who asked why this thread is looked at as a dire warning and other doom and gloom threads are mocked?

Ketzer22:

You can learn about the web-bot at the link posted below....

aphroditeastrology.com...

I hope this helps you.

Has anyone seen this news report from Stevenquayle.com?

www.stevequayle.com...

Very frightening if true:

www.stevequayle.com...

EXPECT CURFEWS , CHECK POINTS, RESTRICTIONS ON TRAVEL, CONFISCATION OF FOOD, WATER, TRANSPORTATION, WEAPONS, COMMUNCATIONS, HOMES FOR BILLETTING TROOPS, ALL MONEY, AND SHOOT TO KILL ORDERS IF THE REGIONAL MILITARY GOVERNOR DEEMS IT NECESSARY. ORGANIZATION OF CIVILLIAN WORK GANGS AND EVEN TRANSPORT TO CONCENTRATION CAMPS WILL BE SEEN IF EVENTS GO AS THE MILITARY AND FEMA PLANNERS HAVE EXPECTED.

www.stevequayle.com...

ALL THAT IS REQUIRED IS A "GREEN LIGHT" FROM WHOEVER RUNS THIS COUNTRY AT THIS TIME OR FROM THE PRESIDENT.2. INDICATIONS THAT THE BANKING DEBACLE IS EVEN MORE SERIOUS AND MUCH LARGER THAN IS BEING STATED BY THE U.S. GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS IS NOW COMING FROM NUMEROUS SOURCES. IT HAS WORLD WIDE IMPLICATIONS.

3. NUMEROUS REPORTS OF TROOP MOVEMENTS AND MILITARY FLIGHTS OF UNUSUAL NATURE ARE COMING INTO STEVE QUAYLE, MYSELF, AND OTHERS.

[edit on 5-10-2008 by antar]

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Like it was stated above, the web-bot program is a market prediction model program. It was designed to scour the internet in order to obtain a "mood" of the entire planet by what was posted on the net.
Apparently, the program is powerful enough that it is able to make predictions on virtually anything of consequence. Apparently even able to bridge information gaps and give a forecast. It is very, very close, imo, to true artificial intelligence in this regard. It comments on the likelihood of earthquakes because it has figured out what causes them, imo, and can tell you when they are going to happen.

In the long run, things like natural disasters have an effect on the market. It is an absolute marvel of computer programming.

[edit on 5-10-2008 by Jay-in-AR]

I have trouble believing these dire predictions.I will however err on the side of caution.I have tried to keep in a state of readiness,keeping food stocks and protection.
If these predictions come to pass,remember it is not every man for himself.To defeat this potential evil that may befall us.support your fellow man as best you can without sacrificeing your families saftey or well being.
Remember only take to arms when you are confronted by armed insurgents.Peaceful resistance until it's time to strike.You will know when!