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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 02:44 PM by David9176
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All this talk about the Alaskan Independence Party? What about Obama's membership in the Socialist New Party? Seriously, this stuff is apples to
oranges. It doesn't matter whatever the implications or the facts are, you're going to stick with your guy...even though he won't answer any of
these questions directly. He misleads and ignores it. But he does have you, his valiant supporters, fighting the good fight. It goes both ways.
link:
www.powerlineblog.com...
newsbusters.org...
hotair.com...
It's funny how this stuff comes out now. Can anyone refute this? Why is it just now coming out? Why would anyone want to be a member of a party
that has the word Socialist in it?
There are just too many coincidences for me not to question this man's values.
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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 03:09 PM by Sublime620
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No, you're right. The University is just teaching people what to think. That's much less worse.
I guess it's safe to recruit al Qaeda into our universities then? So long as they don't run for President, no big deal here.
And could you elaborate on it running "much deeper"?
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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 03:41 PM by jsobecky
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Originally posted by Sublime620
reply to post by jsobecky
No, you're right. The University is just teaching people what to think. That's much less worse.
I get your point. You won't hear me defending too many uni's. Bad examples:
Columbia
Ward Churchill, CO.
That professor in NJ
I guess it's safe to recruit al Qaeda into our universities then? So long as they don't run for President, no big deal here.
And could you elaborate on it running "much deeper"?
Ayers introduced Obama to the Hyde Park crowd and launched Obama's political career in Ayer's living room. Ayers received about $100 million from
the Annenbergs and founded the Chicago Annenberg Challenge; I've cited it here before. Obama was the first Chairman of the CAC. The purpose was to
support education, except they didn't support vouchers, etc. They funded radicalism. The facts have just come out over the summer. The papers were
very difficult to get released.
Ayers got the money, funneled it to Obama to spend. Ayers hosted Obama's "coming out party". That's not a "casual" relationship.
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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 03:59 PM by GamerGal
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Still, Ayers protested the War. All these republicans claiming he was trying to kill people with bombs... Except from what I read they specifically
did NOT target humans. They specifically did not want to kill anyone, and DIDN'T! The AIP? Have declared war on America. So, was the Civil War so
much fun you want to fight it again? Will Canada not mind us marching through them to get troops to Alaska? You have fun supporting this terrorist
lover who wants to destroy the Union. I'll vote for the guy who worked on a charity board with a college professor. Hey, if Ayers is so bad, top 10
wanted list, blah blah blah why hasn't he been arrested? Not a hard guy to find. Just raid his classroom. Wait, even the FBI know McCain's BS is
just that, BS.
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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 04:07 PM by David9176
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As quoted from Bill Ayers Wikipedia page:
n 1970 he "went underground" with several associates after the Greenwich Village townhouse explosion, in which Weatherman member Ted Gold, Ayers'
close friend Terry Robbins, and Ayers' girlfriend, Diana Oughton, were killed when a nail bomb (an anti-personnel device) they were assembling
exploded. Kathy Boudin and Cathy Wilkerson survived the blast. Ayers was not facing criminal charges at the time, but the federal government later
filed charges against him.[2]Ayers participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, the United States Capitol building in
1971, and The Pentagon in 1972, as he noted in his 2001 book, Fugitive Days. Because of a water leak caused by the Pentagon bombing, aerial
bombardments during the Vietnam War had to be halted for several days. Ayers writes: Although the bomb that rocked the Pentagon was itsy-bitsy -
weighing close to two pounds - it caused 'tens of thousands of dollars' of damage. The operation cost under $500, and no one was killed or even
hurt. [13] While underground, he and fellow member Bernardine Dohrn married, and the two remained fugitives together, changing identities, jobs and
locations. By 1976 or 1977, with federal charges against both fugitives dropped due to prosecutorial misconduct (see COINTELPRO), Ayers was ready to
turn himself in to authorities, but Dohrn remained reluctant until after she gave birth to two sons, one born in 1977, the other in 1980. "He was
sweet and patient, as he always is, to let me come to my senses on my own", she later said.[2] The couple turned themselves in to authorities in
1980. Ayers and Dohrn later became legal guardians to the son of former Weathermen David Gilbert and Kathy Boudin after the boy's parents were
convicted and sent to prison for their part in the Brinks Robbery of 1981.[14] Later reflections on his past
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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 05:05 PM by bdswetty
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Yea I pall around with terrorists, too. My friend was just telling me the other about the constitutional rights of immigrants... shh don't tell
anyone we were supporting the constitution.
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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 11:02 PM by GamerGal
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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 11:10 PM by David9176
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but Obama is a terrorist because you're a racist bigot
Maybe i'm reading this wrong, but are you calling me a racist? If so you are WAY OUT OF LINE. This is absolutely disgraceful of you.
Wow....just....wow. This is what i get for posting a link? Those are strong words to throw at someone. I question the man's background and i get
racist thrown at me?? Ridiculous.
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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 11:14 PM by Clearskies
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Originally posted by GamerGal
That's like saying Ford is a terrorist orginization because a worker was killed when making a car. Pathetic.
O.K., I know others are going to point this out to you, but, it's no where NEAR the same thing.
If I may ask, how old are you?
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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 11:33 PM by Lucid Lunacy
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That was a bad analogy, and it's not the same thing.
Ford is guilty of a travesty that I would call a terrorist act.
The Pintos fuel system was so poorly designed it would blow up in rear end collisions most of the time. Ford knew about this, yet did not fix it to
maximize profit, and as a result people died. It could be called murder. That's terrorism in my eyes.
Sorry for the OT people.
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 01:21 AM by GamerGal
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But it is the same thing. They said since someone killed themself while making a bomb Obama is a terrorist. That is like saying Ford is a terrorist
because someone died while making a car. It is like saying a restaurant is a terrorist because someone died eating undercooked meat.
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 04:26 AM by jsobecky
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I will not attempt to correct the obvious failures in your logic; it would be a waste of time on my part. But I do object to you calling another
member a "racist bigot". There is no room for that kind of exchange on ATS. You owe him an apology.
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 05:31 AM by FlyersFan
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Originally posted by Clearskies
I know others are going to point this out to you, but, it's no where NEAR the same thing. If I may ask, how old are you?
Agreed. And gamer owes an apology to the ATS member that she called a racist. Being against the emptysuit corrupt Obama does NOT mean you are a
racist. 
btw - today is the anniversary of the Weathermen's Days of Rage .
Lovely bunch. 
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 05:50 AM by Lucid Lunacy
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Bah.
Members of the U.S. Government coordinated the attack on the WTC and Pentagon in 2001.
We have bigger 'terrorists' then Ayers in our country. Much bigger fish to fry.
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 06:51 AM by FlyersFan
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American Thinker
The Obama-Khalidi Connection. Updated. Obama praises his buddy Khalidi. Khalidi - who praises suicide bombers.
Like I said - it isn't 'just' terrorist Ayers that Obama pals around with. That should be enough of a red warning flag. But there is Auchi and
Khalidi and a host of others.
Govenor Palin is correct.
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 06:55 AM by FlyersFan
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NY Sun
Homeland Security US
Another story here
 - one of the emails
Obama used his senate EMAIL account to personally interfer with the Kenyan elections - to get Raila Odinga elected. Odinga who believes in the Muslim
Law of the Land in reference to non-rights for women, etc.
Besides Obama using his senate email for personal use (wasn't the left falsely accusing Gov. Palin of this recently?  ), he is personally
involved with Kenyan politics in favor of a very shady character.
Another look at who he pals around with.
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 08:23 AM by Lucid Lunacy
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
Besides Obama using his senate email for personal use (wasn't the left falsely accusing Gov. Palin of this recently? )
Nay. It was the opposite. With Palin it was using her personal email for governor use. Which is a technical no no. She is not supposed to do that.
There is no conspiracy to this. There is no 'left falsely accusing'. Her personal email account was hacked. Then the emails were posted online for
all to see.
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 10:47 AM by GamerGal
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Hey, notice how they can't refute anything I post? Just attack me. Yeah, not desperate or anything... Also I don't think its a federal crime to
use your political email for personal use BUT it is a federal crime to use your personal account for government work since it isn't covered/watched.
So if say a certain group of people were using their personal emails to tell each other how to expose an undercover CIA agent who's husband exposed
Bush's lies on WMDs in Iraq it wouldn't be saved or be able to be watched. And still no one will comment how Palin sent terrorists a message
telling them to keep up the good work. Keep up the good work? They declared war on AMerica and she tells them to keep up the good work!
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 11:11 AM by David9176
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Attack you? You are the one calling me a RACIST BIGOT when i've never said anything like that at all. I question what Obama believes in and what
his values are. I don't care what race or sex he is. I should be able to question anything I want to if they are running for President. Do you see
me calling you a crazy pro abortion radical? You hate Palin b/c she is Pro Life? So I can just say you are a child killer right? NO. Why? Because
that is a personal attack and i wouldn't know that anyway unless u stated it. You are being irrational and taking things personally.
Unfortunately this is your line of thinking and it's unfortunate.
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reply posted on 10-10-2008 @ 11:32 AM by GamerGal
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Your only "proof" Obama is a terrorist is his name and race. And you still ignore Palin telling a group of terrorists to keep up the good work.
You still ignore her husband being a member of the same terrorist group.
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