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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 02:22 AM by Lucid Lunacy
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Originally posted by Clearskies
Apparently Pastor Muthee never threatened to kill her, but, said that she was using witchcraft to bind governmental leaders into doing her bidding and
told her to leave.
Voodoo is still big in many places in Africa.
 Really?? That is awesome
Maybe it was voodoo hoodoo, or maybe it was solid detective work. Either way that's awesome.
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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 02:27 AM by ModernDystopia
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Nevermind Palin's ties to the Alaskan Independence Party...
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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 05:41 AM by Areal51
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reply to post by jsobecky
Originally posted by jsobecky
"The devil has told you that! The devil has told you that," cried the little man, and in his anger he plunged his right foot so deep into the
earth that his whole leg went in, and then in rage he pulled at his left leg so hard with both hands that he tore himself in two.
www.eastoftheweb.com...
There you go again asking for proof. You can't even begin to follow a conversation. For you, a comment just exists on its own, with no relevance to
what was said before or after. A prime example of obtuseness.
Your main objective has been to refute what I said, rather than explain your position. You have yet to explain the only position that you have
somehow made clear, which is that you don't agree my position. "Why is that?" I have asked over and over again. The only answer I get is from
you is "I can't prove a negative. You prove it!" -- which is pure garbage.
And I don't apologize for voicing my contempt of this conversation. Nor do I take your "backing out" as if you care for the integrity of this
conversation or this thread.
Your Rumpelstiltskin quote is exactly illustrative of yourself. And I will spell it out for you:
You approached this conversation as if you are right. As if there is a universal truth and that you are in possession of it. However, when it became
clear that you were not in possession of such a thing, you viewed your exposure as an attack on your credibility. You then retreated behind a wall of
deflection. From behind that wall you launched personal attacks at what you feared; simultaneously hiding yourself and leaving yourself exposed.
Since you were exposed to begin with, you didn't have the courage to say "I don't know" or "I don't have an explanation, it's just what I
feel." You just retreated like a coward behind tired old maxims that you do not understand. Maxims that highlighted your sad condition.
See -- you are the one who has torn himself or herself into two. And you sulk off to unconsciously lick your wounds through your delusions. "I'm
right, I'm right. I really, really am", you tell yourself.
Have a nice dream, jsobecky.
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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 02:32 PM by weedwhacker
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May I ask a question, just to 'stir the pot'?
John McCain, and this is on tape, it's not 'hearsay', was seen to say, as far back as April, 2008, that his campain would never engage in
'negative' politics, or 'negative' attacks.
Is it just me? Or, has the tone of John McCain's campaign changed????
Governor Palin, being put out as the latest McCain 'surrogate'....told what to say, where to say it...it is a Carl Rove 'tactic' at it's
basest.
Lies....be very careful, everyone....to recognize a LIE when you hear it.
It is the indication of a desparate campaign. Smear with lies.....used to be known as 'mud-slinging'....hoping one of the lies would 'stick'.
It is a desperate, and despicable tactic of Politics.
Shame on McCain, since the Bush 43 did it to HIM in 2000!!!!!
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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 05:13 PM by GamerGal
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Originally posted by ModernDystopia
Nevermind Palin's ties to the Alaskan Independence Party...
Oh, you mean the group that said something like "Damn AMerica to hell I won't be buried with her flag!" Yeah, that's a great group to pal around
with. Will Palin help Alaska leave the Union if in office? And glad to hear her preacher, when he got a mob together, and the police, shot up her
house, killed her snake as a demon, wasn't trying to kill her.
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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 05:21 PM by FlyersFan
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Originally posted by ModernDystopia
Nevermind Palin's ties to the Alaskan Independence Party...
Read the thread. That was debunked.
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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 05:25 PM by Roper
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Man even CNN is on this, big time. Who'd have thunkit.
Roper
hotair.com...
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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 05:26 PM by GamerGal
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No it wasn't. Her husband is freinds with the leader. So unless you can prove that Palin's husband is little more then a voiceless slave who sways
her opinion in no way, you lose. Sarah met with them, in her home. Far more recently then Obama worked on a charity board with a college professor
who protested an unjust war.
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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 05:58 PM by Shocka
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Keith Olbermann Special Comment on Sarah Palin's remark
Watch it, it's pretty good.
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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 07:14 PM by Lucid Lunacy
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"Not even Conservatives have been stupid enough to buy the snake oil that this was a close relationship or even a nefarious one. Of course you know
better Governor, you're smarter then the rest of us..."
That was pretty good!  I like Olbermann.
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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 07:15 PM by GamerGal
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And already stated Palin was friends, her husband was friends, with the leader of a terrorist orginization. Not just worked on a charity board with a
college professor who protested the Vietnam War, but had these terrorists who wanted war with America and break away in their home. Her husband was a
MEMBER of the terrorist group to break away from the Union. Obama works on a charity board with a Vietnam Protestor, Palin is friends with and her
husband a member of a terrorist group.
[edit on 7-10-2008 by GamerGal]
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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 07:59 PM by Roper
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How many bombs did Mr. Palin set off and how many people did he kill?
Roper
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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 08:05 PM by Roper
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www.akip.org...
Contrary to initial reports, Vice-President candidate Governor Sarah Palin was never a member of our party. We stand corrected. We issued a press
release today. It is posted here to those members of the media who did not receive it.
Todd Palin was registered as a member but never participated in any party activities aside from attending a convention in Wasilla at one time.
Roper
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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 08:17 PM by GamerGal
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So, Palin is friends with terrorists, her husband is a terrorist, but Obama has terrorist friends because he worked on a charity board with a college
professor who 40 years ago protested the Vietnam War. Yeah, makes total sense.
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reply posted on 8-10-2008 @ 12:47 AM by Lucid Lunacy
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Originally posted by Roper
How many bombs did Mr. Palin set off and how many people did he kill?
How many bombs did Ayer set off subsequently killing people??
Apparently you are privy to information I am not...
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reply posted on 8-10-2008 @ 02:19 AM by jsobecky
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People here will defend terrorists like William Ayers. Nothing can be said about that, you just have to wonder why they defend terrorists like William
Ayers.
Ayers attempted to murder innocent people that had absolutely nothing to do with the Vietnam war. Thank goodness the only thing that saved them was
that Ayers was too stupid and inept to do what he set out to do; his incompetence saved their lives.
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reply posted on 8-10-2008 @ 03:43 AM by GamerGal
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Attempted? So he never killed anyone? As in maybe they were oh say, PROTESTING AN UNJUST WAR!
And notice how they avoid the fact that Sarah Palin's own Husband is a registered member of a terrorist group, has met with them, is friends with
them, but Obama is a terrorist because he works on charity boards with college professors.
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reply posted on 8-10-2008 @ 04:54 AM by Lucid Lunacy
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I personally was not defending Ayers. I was simply addressing the fact that Roper was alluding to Ayers having set off bombs and killing people, which
is not true. Nothing more, nothing less.
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reply posted on 8-10-2008 @ 09:33 AM by grover
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There are a lot of people on here who are too young to have remembered those days...
... I came of age in the waning years of the Vietnam war and there was a lot of anger out there, especially with Nixon and Kissinger for prolonging
the war far longer than they needed to... (remember Nixon won the 68 election promising among other things to end the war and the military deems the
Vietnam war as ending with the fall of Siagon in 75) and leading to far more deaths and maimings.
Kids my age were caught in the middle... we knew the kids behind us were pretty much safe and we knew the kids ahead of us were often bleeding and
dying over a misbegotten and wrong idea but our fates hung in the balance... it was a very hard time for us.
The situation in the late 60's and early 70's led to the radicalization of a lot of people and some but by no means all turned to at the very least,
symbolic violence to protest with.
BUT the Weather Underground did more than plant bombs... their most lasting act of symbolic sabatoge was the rapelling down Mt. Tampalis and painting
the rainbow on the arch of the Marin county tunnel at the north end of the Golden Gate Bridge.... abit with a black lightening bolt at its apex... and
the California authority has kept that rainbow minus the lightening bolt ever since.
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reply posted on 8-10-2008 @ 10:13 AM by GamerGal
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So Republicans, Ayers never kills anyone, just protested an unjust war, so Obama is a terrorist. Palin's OWN HUSBAND is a member of a group that
wants to destroy America and she's ok? Her husband is a registered member of a group that wants to destroy the Union, rip a star off of the flag,
but that's ok? Hacks
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