Originally posted by jsobecky
I don't care about other threads. *You* mentioned Obama and Jesus in the same breath. You tried to give it credence when there is none.
Sorry, your reading comprehension is off. If you cannot detect sarcasm or irony, that is your problem. I did not write the statements as if I
espoused them. I wrote them in a mocking tone to mock those who did in fact make them. And I wrote them well.
In fact, what I wrote was a list that was preceded by a premise that was explicit to explain that I was not the source of the ideas that made up the
list.
Responding to your failure to understand that, I pointed you to the original source that I had first read broadcasting such nonsense. Look, if you
don't care for the source, that's your problem as well.
Originally posted by jsobecky
No, Area51, I won't. Do your own homework, or buy the book.
Very well, I will. I thought we had a community here. You seem intent on forming an impression with a sentence fragment. You don't want to go the
distance to substantively support what you assert? That's not surprising.
Originally posted by jsobecky
So, Obama made something up out of thin air, with no proof, just his opinion, and that makes the RNC racist?
Obama plays the game of being the first to inject racism into the election. Sounds smart on the surface, but it is painfully transparent.
And I'm supposed to take internet postings as proof of your silly allegation?
Show me a racist statement put out by the RNC against Obama, and we can talk.
Why are you being silly? You posted the CNN video which detailed Obama's speech, complete with news commentators analyzing the comments.
You doubt the man had a case to say what he did? When all through the primaries he heard what he then decided to speak about? Please. And you
don't have to take anything that I say as proof of anything. I just provided evidence. And if Internet postings matter least to you, why are your
posts full of Internet sources? You don't make a bit of sense.
And for the record, Palin's comments are indeed veiled racism. It's not overt -- she's not that stupid. Does Palin now not represent some sort of
GOP leadership? She's only running for the office of Vice President of the United States. But wait, that wasn't your question was it?
You demanded:
Originally posted by jsobecky
Show me a racist statement put out by the RNC against Obama, and we can talk.
Are you trying to make me laugh?
Show me where I made the claim that the RNC made racist comments about Obama. Show me where I made the claim that Obama made the claim that the RNC
made or would make racist comments about Obama. The
RNC -- as you so eloquently underlined for emphasis. Go ahead, I dare you?
What I am sure about in regards to your demand is that you've continually failed to understand what I've said. It actually seems as if you
intentionally distorted what I've said. Who said that Obama was injecting racism into the game other than yourself?
At the very least I provided sources of where some of the vile commentary stems from. But if you would like, I can post several recent news items
that explicitly detail racist comments made by GOP members. Would you like that?
Originally posted by jsobecky
And you haven't proven squat that Palin's comments are racist. It's *your interprettaion of them* that smacks of racism, and says a lot about you
and your attempt to inject racism where there is none. Same as Obama.
What all of this says is that you don't call a spade a spade, as I do.
Sarah Palin says,
""This is not a man who sees America like you and I see America", that statement alone highlights Obama's superficial
differences, How do many of the undecided White voters see Obama? Palin's intention is to get the undecided voters to see Obama as an outsider.
Someone who is different. To see him as a Black man and as someone with the potential to influence their lives, their world view, and their view of
themselves. In short, Palin appeals to xenophobia.
Palin then says,
"We see America as a force of good in this world." This statement implies that Obama does not see America as a force of
good. Also, Palin draws a favorite play from the Hollywood playbook. Good guys wear white and bad guys wear black. Which becomes clearer when the
following is condsidered.
"We see an America of exceptionalism." That's where America is the exception to the rule. Where American
imperialism, colonialism, and capitalism is an exception to the rule. Where the American way of life, including White privilege (because White is
good), is not dead and everything and everyone is kept in their place.
Combine the previous with,
"Our opponent ... is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect, imperfect enough, that he's palling
around with terrorists who would target their own country" , then one gets the full picture of Palin's aims. She insinuates that Obama wants to
destroy America, she implies that he hates America. That he does not have America's best interests at heart. She wants the undecided voters to
remember Pastor Wright as an angry old black man who sees America as an imperfect place, and Bill Ayers as an Amercan 60's radical and terrorist who
also sees America as an imperfect place. She paints the picture that Obama is consumed with contempt for America.
Bottom line, Palin wants the undecided to view Obama as a threat, a terrorist, an angry Black man who hates White America and the good White people in
it. And she does it through using the tactic of guilty by association. And it is indeed, in my view, racist commentary at it's subtle finest. In
so many words Sarah Palin says, Barack Obama is unfit to be President of the United States because he stands for everything that many White Americans
hate. At least that's what she wants some to believe.
Originally posted by jsobeckyOriginally posted by Areal51
Whoooo the worst kind of terrorist that some White Americans can imagine is a Black American terrorist. Just check the fear contained in some of the
posts in this thread.
And the best kind of terrorist for you is a white one, which is evidenced by your attempts to paint all Palin supporters as racist.
I suppose when you want to make sense, you will. Until then, I'm still waiting.
Originally posted by jsobeckyYou wouldn't see the evidence if Obama admitted it himself, you are so partisan. Your mind is so closed
that it is fossilized.
Right.
You're petrified with fear. Nothing you have posted makes any sense. None of your commentary does. And so you resort to personal
attacks. Well, just expect to be on the receiving end.
You have yet to explain yourself on one issue. If you can explain yourself on just one issue without resorting to personal attacks and emotional
rhetoric, I might just be impressed. But don't do it to impress me, do it for your own mental growth.
If you wanted to explain why Palin's comment was not racist, I would have liked to hear that. At least I could respect that. But you didn't,
instead you want to call me racist. If that's all you know, well, again, I'm not surprised.
And as for the financial situation, I've offered plenty to ATS on the issue in other threads. No need to debate you on it.
