What about the incredible number of references to a flat earth with four corners resting upon pillars rendering it motionless in the heavens, and the firmament that holds the stars in the sky — but concepts like the flat earth, geocentrism, and other silly and blatantly false concepts were believed and violently argued by Christians throughout history based on these same verses. It's funny how Christians used to lean on the Bible as proof of these things, but now that there is no rational way to believe these fantasies, these phrases magically no longer mean what they used to mean. Odd, that.

And let's not forget the references throughout the Bible to hordes of mythical creatures. Heck, at a glance we see unicorns (Numbers 24:8, 23:22, Deuteronomy 33:17, Isaiah 34:7), dragons (Deuteronomy 32:33, Psalm 74:13, Isaiah 13:22, 27:1, 34:13, 43:20, 51:9, Jeremiah 14:6, Revelation 12:4), cockatrices (Isaiah 11:8, 14:29, 59:5, Jeremiah 8:17), and satyrs (Isaiah 13:22, 34:14), just to name a few.

Apparently, God believes that bats are birds (Leviticus 11:13-19, Deuteronomy 14:11-18), an assertion that modern science would seem to refute. You know, since bats are mammals and all.

Then there's the old standby — despite having created all creatures, God seems to be blissfully unaware of that fact that rabbits are not ruminants. Why do I say this? Because the Bible twice mentions that hares and coneys "chew the cud" (Leviticus 11:5-6, Deuteronomy 14:17).

Here are a few more little ones: snails don't melt (Ps 58:8), ostriches are known to be attentive parents who do not abandon their eggs or their young (which kind of screws the whole "God didn't give animals wisdom" argument in the book of Job (39:13-17), huh?), the mustard seed is not the smallest seed on the earth (Mark 4:31), and no matter how hard we pray — and believe us, we were pulling for this one — having goats copulate in front of streaked rods won't make them give birth to streaked babies.

But at the end of the day, either the Bible is the infallible and literal word of God...or it's not.

Originally posted by riggs2099
Gee...see what happens when you let just anyone in..lol. The bible is a bunch of BS written by men to control the feable minded. If there is a God, I say he isn't the bung hole the bible makes him out to be. What kind of loving kind being threatens it's creation with eternal damnation. I'm not sure about the whole God and devil (exists or doesn't...hmmm)thing but one thing is for sure...I mock and laugh at the bibles version. To all you who preach this garbage, stop f'ing your life up so bad that you need to seek outside intervention to fix it or your just easily manipulated and that would be what the original author was hoping for. Oh yeah don't bother preachimg and saying crap like ill pray for you....save it....roll your prayers side ways and shove em up your candy ***...

[edit on 5-10-2008 by riggs2099]

riggs2099,

Hey man, where you been? Prisons should at least allow you to have a blackberry to keep up with all your intellectually-based posts...

If you need a reference let OT know...

I agree and disagree. I don't think scientists are afraid of the bible images.

But science is definitely afraid of consciousness and choice. They never include consciousness into much of anything. In a world of action/reaction, these things have no place. And because they can't explain it's position into things, they simply ignore it.

And the bible outside of the images talks about consciousness/god.

What I love about quantum physics is that it actually doesn't ignore consciousness. And I think it in many ways does explain the things Jesus talked about, which have up to this point been ignored in science.

Personally, I think the subject line of this post is what is generating the hostile responses. I don't think any scientist would be afraid of the Bible, as if they let the Bible inspire fear into them, they wouldn't be scientists.

There is absolutely no reason why science and religion can't coexist. The Bible can be investigated as a historical document, on par with the ancient Greek myths, and other texts from that time, that have led to some wonderous historical discoveries (City of Troy, etc.). To limit your investigation to one or the other is to limit your understanding of the world as a whole.

Scientific growth and spirtual growth are two very different topics. What is important to gain from the Bible is the message (more NT then OT in this regard). How you utilize that message in your personal life has nothing to do with science.

Basically, the premise for the existance of this thread is faulty. Although I do not agree with the choice of words used by some of the previous posters, I do agree that this thread is "garbage".