Here are a couple of thoughts on the whole issue - I have only read the first 13 pages of the thread at this point…quite intriguing reading the
responses to the film.
Competition vs. Collaboration
The idea that: “I need to compete” or “Competition is needed”
I understand fully this way of thought, as I was conditioned by the same, capitalist/corporate milieu that influenced you as well.
The issue is simply of a lack of understanding of a better term to replace the word Competition. And in changing the word, to change slightly - but
dramatically - how we go about doing things….which will become much more efficient and reflect our original intended goals.
What term do I speak of? Collaboration.
Collaboration seeks to work on each others strengths to move forward, while Competition is isolationist in nature, and counter productive. (I know, we
are told competition is needed for innovation…no, its used to control innovation and slowly release product cycles to society. True innovation
happens when people like what they are doing and are motivated out of interest…and not out of fear. (i.e., fear of lack, etc.)
This whole fear based society gets what it sows…you focus on what you get, or rather you get what you focus on. You feel scarcity and you get
“Bro, my scarcity is real!” - Then do something about it. Is your complaining changing anything? If you can change it, do so…otherwise do you
not see your complaining just feeds and fits into the whole cycle of fear?
Many people cannot imagine a resource based society working.
The main reason is because they compare it to the closest, failed, systems that we know. (Though, as pointed out, the American Indians did quite well
with their society…and we would have the additional benefit of Technology.)
We need a shift in understanding, and this is difficult as we usually can only imagine what already exist. Typically, humanity cannot go past anything
until the 100 monkey syndrome takes place…we lack visionaries. We have to think out of the box to get to the next level.
So…a new way of thinking, a true understanding of the nature of reality is needed.
Not the reality of some N.W.O. government, bent on the enslavement of the world.
But the reality as to who you are, why you think the way you do, and how you can free your own mind…from yourself.
For this, I can only personally recommend listening to Eckhart Tolles Audio book, “A New
He deals with this concept at the very end…what a new society will look like and function as. But he does something, or rather goes
one step further than others…he allows us to understand how to bridge the gap that is currently there.
We cannot go into heaven with the current state of mind we have now.
It is not enough to see what heaven is like…if we went there, surely we would turn it into hell!
Egos replace other egos and thus become the same…if not worse…than what was before.
If we do not understand the ego, then we are bound to repeat history time and again…remaining its slave. Remember, “We wrestle not against flesh
Which brings me to…
For those die hard Christians out there - Jesus was not identified with labels.
He was not a Christian, he was “I Am that I Am”. He lived in the “Now” or rather, the present moment, detached from its many egoic labels and
stories that we feel we must cling and adhere to. (We are chemically addicted in the brain to this…its not an easy feat for true change…you must
truly want it. “Seek and you will find when you search with ALL your heart.” For the most part, we are comfortable where we are at…the world
events actually push us alone.
Think about the God of the Bible who put all the world rulers in place…the evil guys.
Perhaps it was needed to help push the sheep alone. What an irony, that which we complained against, may be here to help push us into that which we
claimed we wanted…but the ego held us back from. And that which was ‘evil’ may help push us into that which is ‘good’. (i.e., you stop
suffering when you learn you dont have to suffer. Or you put down the gun when you realize no more people must die…non ever had too of course.)
Making it a Reality:
4) “The Venus Project ask for money and they want a cashless society.”
Yes, this bothers me as well. I saw his drawing lessons on line for sale as well, and I thought, “what an irony.”
Even the best of us are still strongly conditioned and trapped in the realm of dependence on cash.
Let me say this, again, we must think out of the box in all areas - let me give you an example of how this resource based society can start WITHOUT
Keyword - “Resource“
Time to network and find people with different talents.
Each person sacrifice 10% of their talent to be used and directed into a commonly shared idea for a project which can show the world that a resource
based society can work. - Without the stereotype of ‘mountain men in caves’ hiding out from Armageddon flame’
Someone(s) come up with a mini plan that is realistic, and then work with engineers, designers, etc. to bring to life a small scale ‘city’
project. (Even if it would only hold a few families at first.) Here is what you would see:
The tremendous possibilities afforded to us by technology…
MOST importantly - that the whole project was done for FREE.
It was done giving a minimum sacrifice from each group, to make a common dream come true. What was the motivation? Was it money? It was the ability to
use their natural talents/gifts to the maximum in exploration. (And this is what we all desire inside the most…to be all we can be, and to show our
stuff. We are more sharing in nature than one would guess - but of course, it would take a true mentality shift as proposed and explained how to by
Eckhart Tolle, as an example.)
What do YOU want? What you focus on you get…what else could you get, if you spend no time on looking and working on what you want - but take that
time to focus on the complete opposite. (Doesnt it sound messed up…but thats how we live life…focusing on what we dont have, instead of what we
want. I can tell you, the Rothchilds, etc. focus on what they want…because they definitely dont have money…its all made up…yet they made
‘richness’ a reality for themselves…ableit it is at the expense of keeping others oppressed.)
Many thoughts on all this, but I was excited to find the ZeitGeist Movement website, and the Venus Project.
Not because I believe in them…but I believe in my goals, and will try to find people with similar ideas to try to make this a reality. Im not giving
my power over to anyone in this…at any point I could go my own way, and this is what we must remember… not to ‘idolize’ movements, because
then it puts it in the realm of all the other failed movements. - Be true to yourself, and you will be true the the world…we are all connected. (Or,
as a Christian, Jew, Muslim would say - the same God made us all.)
[edit on 1-1-2009 by dAlen]