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Sure. If you really want me to, I will give you all sorts of death and murder the Bible way. I am tired so it's sleepy time now. I will edit this post later with exact passages of the Bible showing you that the Bible does in fact encourage one to kill.
It always amazes me how many times this God orders the killing of innocent people even after the Ten Commandments said “Thou shall not kill”. For example, God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21). God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3). He orders another attack and the killing of “all the living creatures of the city: men and women, young, and old, as well as oxen sheep, and asses” (Joshua 6). In Judges 21, He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married. When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife! Just about every other page in the Old Testament has God killing somebody! In 2 Kings 10:18-27, God orders the murder of all the worshipers of a different god in their very own church! In total God kills 371,186 people directly and orders another 1,862,265 people murdered.
The God of the Bible also allows slavery, including selling your own daughter as a sex slave (Exodus 21:1-11), child abuse (Judges 11:29-40 and Isaiah 13:16), and bashing babies against rocks (Hosea 13:16 & Psalms 137:9).
Did you know, first bible was written by judaisms. And from judaism left group what splitted two, islamic and christianity and from christianity splitted out one group too what was evangelic. So christians, evangelics, islamics are originally judaisms. Now today you keeping your hands bible version from 0.001 to version 2.00 or was it 2.01 or 2.02 version. I don't remember too much editions to in bible at in history, because someone said, this version is retarded, let's make better version, but all versions don't have really no sense, so they have failed their job. Only thing how they did get people in to religion was make FEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAARRRRR.........................
Originally posted by undo
agreed. there are gems, but the fact the gems are interspersed between moments of aggregious translations of ancient documents, proves to me one thing: they have an agenda, and that agenda looks just like communism. i will say it again, i will not be a drone. they will not tell me what books to read, what to teach my children, what to eat, how to act, or where to do whatever it is i'm going to do, at least, not if i have any say over it. freedom is a double edged sword, because although you may enjoy your particular brand of it, you must also agree to let others have theirs. and since that's NOT what zeitgeist is promoting, to me, it's just communist propaganda -- everyone's a drone for the state and can't even think their own flippin' thoughts
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Originally posted by Saidar
reply to post by Amaterasu
Sure it does. It says it is right and all others are wrong. Over half (closer to virtually all) the wars fought have been over religion, with the Bible particularly used to justify taking out the "heathen."
Dude, did you ever read the Bible? Those were was definitely not justified by the Bible. In fact the Bible teaches to love you enemies and never to kill. What you just said is not what the Bible teaches.
Does that explain the Crusades? The Inquisition? The witch hunts? The torturing of scientists (or other coercion) to recant ideas like the earth goes around the sun? Seems the Bible is open to interpretation for justifying stagnation, poverty, primitiveness, lack of creativity, war, hate (Oh, God Hates Fags! ), and slavery...
Exo 20:13 Thou shalt not kill.
Exo 20:14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.
Exo 20:15 Thou shalt not steal.
Exo 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
Exo 20:17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.
What happened in the medieval ages was totally AGAINST the Bible! In fact the Bible commands us to give our earnings and hard work to the poor and everyone around us! Dude, please don't insult the Bible if you haven't read it yet. I really think you are a smart person but don't think you read the whole Bible yet.
It's all about following one's bliss.
I know what you are talking about in fact I'm also following my path of self satisfaction right now, by studying one of the most difficult professions in my country, and not expecting good payment. I do it fort the love of it.
But you see, not everyone's bliss is towards a better civilization. Let's take a look at the American youth. Most of the teenagers in USA got everything they need to survive and lots and lots more. Why don't they take the opportunity to do what they want to one day?
They have every opportunity, huge universities, homeschooling available, all the money in the world etc, but most of the teenagers choose to drink themselves to death, humping each other like bunnies in spring and only to party all the time.
Don't you think that's going to happen when everyone starts to notice they don't have to work anymore to make a living?
Labour is what keeps our humanity alive.
If you only feel rewarded from getting paid, I feel very sorry for you. When people follow their bliss, the following is all the reward they need. Many get more reward from a "thank you" than from a paycheck.
You don't have to feel sorry for me, I'm not like that
I recommend you look into the study of Complexity and Chaos Theory. LIFE is a biological mechanical device, and though the individual cells die, life ever progresses towards greater complexity, a higher order.
Oh yes dude, one of my math modules right now is chaos mathematics, really a b*tch. But you see, one cell, yes ONE CELL in a human body is more complex than anything that has ever been created by humans. Our human bodies have billions of cells working together. Achieving that kind of engineering, is in fact, right out impossible or going to take hundreds of years of research.
And I'm not ignorant or something right now, that's the truth. And another thing, humans are not getting better. We are fading away.
Another thousand years of breeding is going to increase genetic diseases, dna malfunctions etc.
We are not getting "better", that is outright a lie told my humanistic believes, and any biochemist that studies genes and dna can tell you that. Genetic diseases, malfunctions, etc is on the rise.
Thanks for the conversation I love to talk about this stuf
Originally posted by Matrix1111
But i also wonder what is the agenda behind the presentation. Is it commuunism? What? Who are these people? What is their agenda?
t always amazes me how many times this God orders the killing of innocent people even after the Ten Commandments said “Thou shall not kill”. For example, God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census of the people (1 Chronicles 21).
Not having faith in the Lord Without divine guidance, how was he going to lead Israel and defend her borders? In 1 Chronicles we learn that Satan placed in David's heart the desire to take a census of all his people. His chief commander, Joab, was a bit distressed at David's request, for had not God always helped his chosen people regardless of their numbers? (See 1 Chr. 21:1-3.) Had not Jehovah trimmed Gideon's troops from 32,000 to 300 to prove that it was the Lord's power and not sheer numbers which was responsible for the victory over the Midianites? (See Judg. 7.) Had not David the shepherd boy been a majority of one in single-handedly defeating the Goliath-led Philistines? Little wonder that Joab questioned his king's sudden striving to find safety in numbers.
God also orders the destruction of 60 cities so that the Israelites can live there. He orders the killing of all the men, women, and children of each city, and the looting of all of value (Deuteronomy 3)
Israel was surrounded by hostile neighbours who wanted to wipe them from the face of the earth. This was the race God made a covenant with to send his messiah from. He took great concern in making sure this race wasn't eradicated by the enemies or their offspring.
In Judges 21, He orders the murder of all the people of Jabesh-gilead, except for the virgin girls who were taken to be forcibly raped and married. When they wanted more virgins, God told them to hide alongside the road and when they saw a girl they liked, kidnap her and forcibly rape her and make her your wife!
Can't wait for the explosion of insults and "you are retarded" comments to my side right now
In your interpretation. Yes, I have read it - in several versions. And depending on what chapter and verse one pulls out, one can justify most any behavior. The fact that wars WERE justified with the Bible (by pulling specific things out of it) tells me that it is all a matter of what one WANTS it to say. In fact, some justify things with the Bible that others, using the Bible, deny.
Because a true education is not available - one that allows them to pursue as interests them, the opportunity to find their bliss is lacking therefore, and what IS available often is NOT what's needed to follow thier bliss. It's not tools but simply material creppola.
LOL! You are a spawn of the media, my friend. MOST teenagers are living in or near poverty. They choose to drink because they have no means to follow their bliss. (Humping, in case you are unaware, is a natural function, a biological imperative, so let's leave THAT out, eh? It happens worldwide.) And "party all the time???" Oh, no, my friend. That is what the few rich brats get to do. Despite what the stereotypical American Kid on the tube looks like, MOST kids are seeking solution to the many problems they are surrounded with. Some struggle to find work. Some resort to drugs (including alcohol). Some commit suicide. But virtually ALL have no opportunity to pursue their bliss.
And frankly... If one's bliss is to get drunk, have sex, and party all the time... If one is not needed in the slave labor pool and all the requirements to do that are handy... Who is anyone else to judge?
Only because slave labor is needed. If all such labor can be handed to a robot, bliss is what will keep us alive. AND we won't see suppression of technology because no profit will threatened. (Oh, I cannot tell you how much tech has been suppressed!)
Well then. What else do you take reward from? What if you could take reward all the time from that else? What if you knew that you would be fed, clothed, housed comfortably, cleanly and fully, while you were taking that reward?