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Originally posted by junglejake
The Founders were overwhelmingly Christian
Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
The conspiracy started a few decades ago, when the CFR was given the task of laying out a path by which the nation would be molded in a manner that would take their faith in God away and replace it with narcissism and the worship of the government. This would make the nation more accepting to becoming part of a one world government and willingly surrendering its Divine inheritance and national sovereignty.
Originally posted by junglejake
The case for evolution is not 100%. It's not proven. It's a theory; a belief, if you will. Why should that belief be allowed to be spoken, but one's belief in God not be?
Originally posted by junglejake
When you die, it's plainly proven to you that it was either true or not.
If Revelations comes to pass, I'd say that'd be pretty strong proof, too.
Originally posted by worldwatcher
back to this evolution thing..seems like we are all off on a tangent here but... okay so explain how the bible explains neanderthal man....didn't they eventually evolve into homosapiens....(yes I realize there is a missing link)
Actually, modern theories into this believe cromagnon man and neanderthal man were 2 seperate species living at the same time, and that we evolved from cromagnon, who wiped out the neanderthals.
and I don't think believe that evolution, abortion, secularism, and the other stuff you said is being forced upon others especially Christians and demanding them that they need to change their way of thinking.
It's not being forced, but it is being said, and taught in our schools.
All the things you mentioned should be discussed in forums such as the media, internet, and schools...My problem is with elected officials and government forgetting to run the government and getting involved and influenced by issues that do not relate the how a country is run. What does my morals have to do with how much taxes I pay? what does me be pro-choice have to do medicare going bankrupt? What does believing in evolution have to do with border security and immigration?
Although their morals don't have much to do with taxation, they play a large part in making laws. If our morals allowed us to murder, there would be no laws preventing murder. If it is ok to steal, no laws enforcing that. Morality does play a large role in government.
Originally posted by junglejake
And yet we can be taught philosophy in school. That can't be proven. We are taught about governments. We are taught that the Nazis were evil. (totally agree with that, but it is an opinion that can't be proven). We are taught creative writing in school. Well, as long as you don't mention God in your writings, you can be creative. So just because something isn't considered a science, it still can be taught and spoken of by public officials...
Originally posted by junglejake
And yet we can be taught philosophy in school. That can't be proven.
True, but no one is attempting to pass philosophy off as fact, it is merely a system by which to reason.
We are taught about governments.
Which can be proven to exist
We are taught that the Nazis were evil. (totally agree with that, but it is an opinion that can't be proven).
Well here I agree with you that it is wrong to teach anything in public education as being more or less moral then anything else. School is about learning facts.
We are taught creative writing in school. Well, as long as you don't mention God in your writings, you can be creative.
Who says that you can't mention gods or any other ideas in reference to creative writings? And no, creative writing is not a 'fact', but it is not passed off as such hense the word creative.
Who says that you can't mention gods or any other ideas in reference to creative writings? And no, creative writing is not a 'fact', but it is not passed off as such hense the word creative.
Originally posted by worldwatcher
This argument isn't about what can be proved or not or whose religion is right or wrong...It is about the government officials separating their personal ideology from the interests of a nation.
Originally posted by worldwatcher
that's a wierd school jake.
when I was in high school..we had a class (can't remember the exact name they used) but we read books like Paradise Lost, Dante's Inferno, lots of Greek and other mythology and we were encouraged to write and discuss the different gods of man.
Originally posted by junglejake
But what if they believe their personal ideology is in the interest of the nation? Who can say if that official is just spouting their personal ideology or actually working towards what they believe to be the interests of the nation as a whole?
Originally posted by junglejake
So how are we going to be represented if our elected officials are supposed to hide our religion in a dusty closet?