Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
Do you know what Joe 6-pack even means? I was trying to figure out if that meant a fat dude (6 pack of beer) or a guy with hard abs Not that either make sense in this debate.

I think she means it as the average joe that buys a six pack and watches a football game with his buddies...or at least that is what i pictured when she said it.

i don't hink she was thinking about fat guys per se (have you seen her hubby?...hot)

Biden ran away with it!

He not only "actually answered" the questions asked, but his rebuttals on her recorded talking points were right on the mark. He returned fire on almost every one of her shots and landed headshots.

On the other hand.... And let's see how many of you conservatives can be honest here:

Palin DIDN'T answer the questions she was asked, and upon rebuttals by Biden, was usually unable to counter, often resorting back to ENERGY, which often just felt (and was) completely misplaced.

Spare me the nonsense of it being a GREAT debate tactic not to answer questions and change the subject. Fact is, she couldn't hang on topics.

Biden won, folks.

Pff both tools vote Ron Paul!

OralFixation,

you have got to have the best avatar i have seen in a long time

i love it!

[edit on 3-10-2008 by Fathom]

I agree with the fact that Palin barely answered every question... but would also say Biden didn't say a darn new thing either and directly lied at least once in reference to Obamas policies...

Either way I'm still preping my survival kit

I live in the UK, and I have to say it seems alot of people in the US will be taken in by the style and Charm of Palin, but people are not seeing the long term picture.

Its all very nice now shes a breath of fresh air etc etc but she will be second in command of one of the most powerful nations in the world ( though that is in doubt after recent events) and that is a scary thought, yeah she sounded ok under a well scripted controlled environment but in office its a completely different scenario and who will suffer..the american people joe six pack and all those hockey mums...

Originally posted by Fathom

I think she means it as the average joe that buys a six pack and watches a football game with his buddies...

Ahh. I didn't take it that way, but that makes sense.

i don't think she was thinking about fat guys per se (have you seen her hubby?...hot)

Yeah I have seen him, but I think Biden is cuter.

If anyone mentions McCain as a Love interest I am going to have to put you on my ignore list

Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
Yeah I have seen him, but I think Biden is cuter.

i think you forgot to add a couple of these
ext to your comment above...or did you?

Originally posted by Fathom

i think you forgot to add a couple of these
ext to your comment above...or did you?

Well Biden is no Jessica Alba, but no, I was not kidding.

Which makes him more qualified for diplomacy in my eyes.

I guess if i was to Choose Which of the puppets "won the debate" i would choose Biden simply for the Fact he was more professional in his Vocabulary, and seemed more educated on what he was talking about. Palin was spouting out slang terms like some Hillbilly idiot, and was blatantly trying to avoid some of her questions.

It makes no difference, they are both just puppets to the international bankers & special interest groups. We have no Free government its all smoke & mirrors. i bet most of you didn't even know aether of these politicians existed tell the propaganda box told you they did.

A lot of people are criticizing Palin for not answering certain questions. If Palin would have gone into detail people would have said that she memorized answers to predictable questions. She did the best thing possible by showing her strongest sides. By talking about energy issues a lot its solidifying in people's minds that she's strong when it comes to that issue. She's showing she has something to bring to this ticket. She used the debate to talk about what she wanted to talk about. Look back at the debate and check to see how many times she was able to bring energy into most questions. Now people will say McCain is strongest when it comes to foreign policy, Obama when it comes to the economy and Palin when it comes to energy issues. She was creating her niche tonight.

Most people watched this debate to see how Sarah Palin would perform. They turn to McCain for solutions. What Sarah Palin says really only significantly matters if McCain dies.

Biden had more answers, but the big winner is Sarah Palin because she improved her image. People expected Biden to have more answers, but Sarah performed a lot better than anyone thought she would.

wouldn't it be nice if we all lived in a world where we had a six pack and were able to stand there and watch my kids play soccer???? dam that aught be GREAT if all the moms in this country could AFFORD to pay the fees for soccer.......
.........sorry lady but I am a SINGLE MOM and cat afford soccer........

I am not able to pay for soccer for my son....
....so MOST the analogies this woman used have no baring on my life....she comes off as MISSRICHBIOTCH.......................

Sorry but true...........

gimme a break.......
thats not a 'middle class' issue now days........
that woman standing there claiming that she is some kind of middle class mom is INSANE............
*single mom here who CANT get her kid into a soccer league without megga cashflow when we are trying to eat decent*

END OF STORY....
... as no matter WHAT we say it just goes on & on & on & on......



[edit on 3-10-2008 by theRiverGoddess]

In my opinion Biden won and he did it with style, where he answered all the questions to him, and where Palin try to run around the hot cake.

And to serious think that there are people who are gonna vote Palin´s way is beyond my imagination, she was lying, accusing without arguments and simply she is not worth for you US citizen to have as a VP.

Best regards.

Loke.

Originally posted by theRiverGoddess
wouldn't it be nice if we all lived in a world where we had a six pack and were able to stand there and watch my kids play soccer????

[edit on 3-10-2008 by theRiverGoddess]

I'm a lurker, not much of a poster here... But really, what kid wants a drunk mom watching the soccer game...

Good luck with all of that.

I figured Govenor Palin would fall on her butt - but she didn't.

The first 15 minutes she was obviously very nervous but then she calmed down and went at it.

The way I know that Govenor Palin did great is that Mika Brezinski - of MSNBC's Morning Joe show - is absolutely miserable and even more shrill then usual. The co-hosts of that show look glum to have to be with her and one even said 'can we just go home and go back to bed so we don't have to deal with this' (this = Mika).

I was wondering if Joe Biden had his eyes done with plastic surgery.
Other news sources are saying that it's BOTOX.
That's not important. It's just something I noticed during the dabate.
His face was strange. I figured his eyes were done .... but it's BOTOX.
(how Kerryesque! )

My take on the debate - it's a tie. (and I'm in shock over that)

Originally posted by OralFixation
Biden had more answers, but the big winner is Sarah Palin because she improved her image. People expected Biden to have more answers, but Sarah performed a lot better than anyone thought she would.

Please don't speak so generally. I constitute as a 'person' and I could care less if she improved her image. That doesn't 'win' this for me.

Palin wins because she improved her image?? She performed better then she had before, because she was better then people expected of her based on her previous flops! Hello this was not a contest by herself for herself. This was a serious debate, not a self-help video. It's sad that you could say "biden had more answers" but then say Palin was the big winner because she "improved her image".





[edit on 3-10-2008 by Lucid Lunacy]

Palin did not fail to the level some expected, but imho, she only managed that via very catious answers, and avoiding topics. Style? I don't want a stylish president, I want an effective, knowledgable president. God forbid anything were to happen to either president, who would I rather have in office between Biden and Palin? It's not even close. I am truly alarmed at the thought that at this point, there is a possibility that Palin could be running our country. She would be, imo, a puppet moreso than any president prior, unable to make any of her own decisions. I am honestly not super thrilled with Biden either, but at least the thought of him being president doesn't scare me.

Originally posted by OralFixation
Biden had more answers, but the big winner is Sarah Palin because she improved her image.

That statement is so hilarious.

Both contestants turned in secret ballots after the debate and Palin won the satin sash and crown for Pluckiest Veep Evah (Wink, Wink)TM by a count of 2 to 0. You betcha goshdarnit.

Then she tossed her hat in the air and spun around, turning the world on with her smile, as she took a nothing debate, and suddenly made it all seem worthwhile, cause it's that girl and we should know it, with every little glance and movement, she shows it, love is all around, no need to waste it, she can have the Veep crown, why don't she take it, she's gonna make it after all.

Biden squeaked by on issues and substance.