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Nothing super natural here...

These are parlor tricks.. illusions.. And have nothing to do with the JINN is was thinking about..

Have fun.. and ummm yeah enjoy the videos..
In my personal veiw.. This has nothing to do with Supernatural .
Maybe a magic trick, or illusion.

Just that a TRICK!


But hey I am all for magic tricks for fun!!! Its great for kids and adults alike! Its a great way to escape the everyday stress.

But if taken to far it can be dangerous.. And it allows hoaxers, and scam artist to hurt, and manipulate people on a deep level.
I for one wont allow that to happen.

I am a druid.. And I know much about the occult.. But I have never gotten on ATS and tried to tell people something that wasnt real.
I am very upfront and honest about the many levels of deepness in this life.
I do belive in stuff out of this world.. And I do belive in some true magic.
However I have yet to see true magic being used on youtube.

[edit on 2-10-2008 by zysin5]

Can you enlighten us and tell us how it is a trick?

Why the big circus? to give "everyone" the impression of "this aint real"?



[edit on 2-10-2008 by Mr. Secret]

Umm you ask for our thoughts.. I gave you my thoughts and then you add me as a foe..
Well I now have nothing to add to your thread here...

You catch more flys with honey! There buddy!

And how is that not a trick?

If you think he is really using the powers of a Jinn..
Why not tell us what you think a Jinn is to begin with???

Some people here amaze me.. Do you think Criss Angel is real?
(not putting words in your mouth.)(But asking an honest question?)

You know he walks on water!!! And does all sorts of cool tricks..

So yeah.. I have nothing further to say to someone who puts people on their foe list when you ask for thoughts.. I give you my thoughts and you do that kind of stuff..

You dont know even know me.. Im the resident paranornal guy around here. Thats resident, not president, and Im not the expert.. However many folks on ATS have come to find my advice to be note worthy.

And have much to offer people who are atleast nice enough to listen before they press that foe button..
So be it

Plus I make it my life to inform people of tricks.. And not allow my friends and fellow man to buy into tricks and gags ...

If you are honestly saying this is real.. Then you are spinning a yarn.
A hoax.. And if you didnt know that will get you banned here really fast.

But its okay to talk about it..
But I will stand up and tell people not to fall into stuff like this and honestly belive THIS is REAL magic..
Its not real Magic.. And if you honestly belive its real magic and want to spin a hoax here.. Well then its going to be a problem you have to deal with, and you will be painted as someone who people dont take very seriously on here.
But it takes time, and Im not bashing you.. Im just not agree'ing that he is using the powers of a Jinn.

[edit on 2-10-2008 by zysin5]

I don't know I watched the first one and my best guess is fishing wire wrapped around it being slowly unwound if you observe the bottles are always slightly rotating as they are moving.

With the quality of the video I'm happy to believe it's just a basic trick you could manipulate the bottles quite easily by the angle you tugged the wire.

Just for the record if I was going to be convinced it was a real jinn I'd expect to see the bottle spinning in the air or transforming into something else as it is this is just a pretty common magician style trick I believe.

[edit on 2-10-2008 by Teknikal]

Originally posted by zysin5
You know even know me.. Im the resident paranornal guy around here.
And have much to offer people who are atleast nice enough to listen before they press that foe button..
So be it

Clearly you are, I can see the maturity in your first response..

Did you take the time to read my signature Mr... "president paranormal guy" ?

I know the calls he is using, I know what sounds legit of these calls and what names are real and which are fabricated..

I can tell because he knows how to recite the calls correctly..

Originally posted by Teknikal
I don't know I watched the first one and my best guess is fishing wire wrapped around it being slowly unwound if you observe the bottles are always slightly rotating as they are moving.

If there was a string wrapped around it, how come the bottles move toward the person?

How come when he pickes the bottle up, there is no string.. and he puts it back in place without any sign of "taking care of that string"..

The problem with my posts is that most people here CANNOT tell the different between calls used by Hebrew Kabbalists and Egyptians, and people like Chris Angel and the like..

Let alone having "the president of the paranormal" here suggest that I believe chris angel is real..

Originally posted by Mr. Secret

Originally posted by Teknikal
I don't know I watched the first one and my best guess is fishing wire wrapped around it being slowly unwound if you observe the bottles are always slightly rotating as they are moving.

If there was a string wrapped around it, how come the bottles move toward the person?

How come when he pickes the bottle up, there is no string.. and he puts it back in place without any sign of "taking care of that string"..

I don't believe you would be able to see it at that resolution of video but it's possible by the time he picks the bottles up the wire has been completely unwound.

It just looks to much like a typical magician trick for me to believe it's supernatural I've seen similar things on TV more than once done by them.

There is a slim chances it's real but if he was really controlling Jinn don't you think he could show something much more jaw dropping.

Its called a UFC or ultimate float controller. The second is a timed chemical reaction. Please do not give this person or anyone else any money until you have consulted a member of the International Brotherhood of Magicians, or The society of American Magicians.

They will not tell you how its done only that it is a trick.

There is a one million dollar cash prize held in trust, for anyone that can produce psychic proof such as this.

Google JRE.

Scam in low resolution. Pitiful.

Originally posted by zysin5

If you think he is really using the powers of a Jinn..
Why not tell us what you think a Jinn is to begin with???

If you exerted the effort to find out a little more about me, then you could've saved yourself a lot..

Originally posted by zysin5
Some people here amaze me.. Do you think Criss Angel is real?
(not putting words in your mouth.)(But asking an honest question?)

Why did you go back and edit this?

Originally posted by zysin5
So yeah.. I have nothing further to say to someone who puts people on their foe list when you ask for thoughts..
I give you my thoughts and you do that kind of stuff..

You have nothing further to say,, despite everything you wanted to "let out" or your heart my dear friend.. the evidence is clear in the richness of what you write ahead of this point.

Originally posted by zysin5
You dont know even know me.. Im the resident paranornal guy around here. Thats resident, not president, and Im not the expert.. However many folks on ATS have come to find my advice to be note worthy.

Why did you change "president" to "resident"?
It is funny how you still argued "not president".. And then you're trying to balance the and lower the shame by saying "noo noo, many people disagree with me here"..

Originally posted by zysin5
Plus I make it my life to inform people of tricks.. And not allow my friends and fellow man to buy into tricks and gags ...

How humble!!
How sweet of you!

Originally posted by zysin5
If you are honestly saying this is real.. Then you are spinning a yarn.
A hoax.. And if you didnt know that will get you banned here really fast.

Are you suggesting that I am a hoaxer?

Originally posted by zysin5
Its not real Magic.. And if you honestly belive its real magic and want to spin a hoax here.. Well then its going to be a problem you have to deal with, and you will be painted as someone who people dont take very seriously on here.

Why are you being defensive and trying to scare me with being banned?

You don't even know what you're talking about!

You are someone who has school tomorrow, you don't know anything about ancient sciences or texts or scripts.. and that is very clear in your posts.

Originally posted by zysin5
But it takes time, and Im not bashing you..

Clearly, you have lost it!
[edit on 2-10-2008 by zysin5]

Originally posted by Illahee

Scam in low resolution. Pitiful.

The first video "which we are concerned with" is not in low resolution..

What do you have to say about that? huh?

It's a hoax, these simple tricks are barely noteworthy and clearly fraud.

I'm surprised he didn't have a Jinn in a cooler with it's guts hanging out.

Don't get me wrong, I think its fine your collecting and storing and hopefully building a study grade archive of these texts and doing the translations for them.

Just be careful about getting caught up in wonder of if they are real or not.

One of my favorite tricks is to put two or three coworkers in a state of suspended animation while we wait for the one guy who is always late. Then convince him I was holding the meeting just for him. Simple hypnosis and not real at all but seeing those people as stone staring statues sends a cold chill. I do that with security guards every once in a while.

My other favorite is stopping my pulse. Then stopping the pulse of a spectator while a third person confirms it. Then getting someone to confirm the third persons pulse has stopped.

Its magic! But not real magic, just simple tricks.

I challenge EVERYONE to prove to me that the video of the bottles on a table is a hoax..

I know it looks like a simple trick, but this nobody ever makes "legitimate calls from books 1000+ years old" in such a professional way..

Anyways,
one person to prove that the bottles are tied with something, the angles are clear, the video is HIGH QUALITY, and the room is sunny bright..

EDIT:

I will ONLY respond to attempts of analyzing the video.. any short answer "fake, hoax, you'll be banned" will be reported..

Cheers and I'm waiting for a good proof,

[edit on 2-10-2008 by Mr. Secret]