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The Romans, Christianity and the Globalist Agenda

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posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 09:25 AM
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Forgive my bold claim, but I can't help thinking I've really uncovered a holy grail of truth here. Others may have discovered it before me, and if that is the case, my arriving at the same conclusion independently would only strengthen the integrity of the revelation. I'm now more sure than ever that the religion of Christianity is nothing more than a deception - a weapon fabricated to serve the interests of the NWO. Actually, the connotations of this go beyond Christianity. I now know that the secret NWO agenda has been alive for more than 2,000 years.

The Ancient Legacy of the Secret Elite

The first thing to be understood is that the NWO agenda did not begin in 1913 when central banking authority was handed over to the US Federal Reserve. It has been in existence since the Ancients first desired control over more than their immediate family, community or tribe. At this point I'd like to state that I'm not talking about the Freemasons (whose precursor were the Knights Templar). I believe there's more than one legacy of secret societies going back to antiquity - some good, some bad. But as an example, examine the links between Ancient Egypt and modern Freemasonry - pyramids, sacred geometry, the eye etc. Those same elements are found throughout elite groups spanning Egypt 2,500 BC to the present day - think the Seven Sages of Greece, the Celtic Druids, the Roman Empire, the Knights Templar (who used the sacred geometrical knowledge they had inherited to develop complex gothic architecture - see image below) and lastly the Freemasons.



So if there exists a lineage of preserved sacred knowledge, it follows that - whether within the same lineage or through a seperate one - there exists an ancient, malevolent agenda. This isn't the place to go into depth about the ancient legacy of secret societies. There are numerous ATS threads already dealing with this more comprehensively and the information is out there to be sought.
The legacy of sacred geometry:
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To summarise, my studies have shown me that much of our modern predicament has been a carefully-planned agenda since at least the time of the Romans, possibly the Egyptians. But once this plan was forged, how was it set into motion?

The Liberating Power of Paganism

Around the time of the Romans (where I postulate the NWO plan was conceived), the world consisted of disparate Pagan tribes, each represented by unique races and subraces. Paganism does not require that anyone beyond the immediate family, community or tribe share those beliefs and furthermore, the culture and identity is seen to belong to those folk alone. Family and community values were paramount under the Pagan systems and nothing in the world could unite them for they had no interest in merging or sharing their individual cultures. In short, Paganism = Pan-Nationalism. Paganism is a folkish belief system and in its original form, did not allow for Multiculturalism. In a world of Nationalist (or Tribalist) peoples, Globalism and one-world Government is an impossibility. Seperate, homogenous communities have far too much spiritual, cultural and communal strength to be broken down by a force mustered by the elites. What they needed (and still need) was a way to destroy Paganism - thereby destroying Pan-Nationalism and the individual potency of the world's tribes.

Enter Christianity.



A new belief system that DOES require the entire world to believe what you believe.

The Romans fabricated a new way of life and set forth spreading it far and wide. Of course, this legacy of Missionaries kept on long after the Romans, systematically wiping out the world's Pagan cultures and making what was once impossible an inevitability - Globalism. Through Christianity, the world began to merge, and not because it was the one true religion, no! Christianity, the lie of all lies, spread because it demanded from its adherents that they convert - by force if necessary - until the entire world was united under one God. 'Spiritual' unity paves the way for Political unity and by this method, the world would be primed for Globalism and eventually, a one-world Government.

Movements Artificially Engineered By the NWO Since

But Christianity was just the beginning. Long after the initial Christianization of much of the world, those Pagans who had secretly held onto their indigenous, ancestral beliefs were persecuted without mercy:



The orders to do this were of course handed down from the very top - Church leaders, Kings and Queens. These were members of the elite very much sympathetic to the grand age-long agenda of the elite legacy. They knew that in order to set the scene for ultimate power they eventually had to eliminate any form of Folkish, cultural strength. Spirituality being the most powerful element within any individual culture or folk, the remaining Pagans were targetted with ferocious animosity.

The Women's Liberation movement was another way of attempting to destroy traditional family and community values. For the NWO know that the family is the root of all culture and unity and by destroying its sovereignty, the world could be broken down and mixed together like the ingredients for a mighty global soup - one which only those few elites pulling the strings would get to drink from. See: How The CIA Used Feminism To Destabilize Society.

Likewise, the current incarnation of society destabilzation tactics is Multiculturalism. Ever wonder why, despite the massive outcry in the West against mass-immigration, the borders are effectively open and unprotected? Ever wonder why, in Britain particularly, the indigenous Britons are being replaced by immigrants? It's not because the elite think a multicultural world would be better for us, or because 'immigration is good for the economy', it's because Multiculturalism furthers their ultimate agenda. It renders the strength found in folk, culture and nation useless. It paves the way for a borderless world where a one-world Government can have complete jurasdiction and control.

Conclusion

Don't be fooled into believing the lie that is Christianity. And don't be fooled into thinking that individual, sovereign nations, cultures and races is a bad thing. The Romans perpetrated the greatest, most evil deception imaginable when they fabricated the religion called 'Christianity'. It is the most powerful tool ever used to weaken the human spirit and to create a terrifying political situation. That Christianity is a deception is not a new revelation, but I believe I've discovered precisely WHY it was conceived of in the first place. It wasn't merely to centralize religious belief and trick adherents into being good citizens. It was more than that. It was about deliberately destroying the world's unique cultures and breaking the cultural ties which are so important in helping us avoid enslavement. Without those folkish, cultural bonds, we are rootless, and a rootless tree can be pulled from the ground with the greatest of ease. Hold onto your culture and hold onto your family. For with those intact, we at least have some power to resist Globalism and the NWO.

[edit on 2/10/2008 by Cythraul]




posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 04:09 PM
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Very well thought out. You just might be right.



posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 04:42 PM
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Nice conclusion. Too bad it is 2000 years too late.
We need to think about the right now, if we want a future.
New World Order types use whatever is available, as tools and their very control-freak nature means they will overlook nothing. That includes your relgion.



posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 05:30 PM
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Originally posted by jmdewey60
Nice conclusion. Too bad it is 2000 years too late.
We need to think about the right now, if we want a future.

Thank you both. And yes, we're too late dodging this, the first example of an artificially engineered movement - Christianity. But, by analysing these events that are being secretly crafted and controlled for very specific purposes - to feed the NWO agenda, we can begin to learn the methods and nature of the NWO. That would put us in good stead to stand up and refuse to be deceived again. The current economic 'crisis' is as good a time as any. The whole bail-out hasn't happened yet. We're told that without it the world will crumble but it's another NWO lie. If we educate ourselves about our past - particularly the times when we have been deceived, then we can apply that knowledge to the future and be wiser in our resistance.



posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 10:18 PM
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I would not go so far to say that Christianity was fabricated for this purpose, but it nevertheless seems to have been the vehicle for the first attempt at the creation of a one-world religion.



posted on Oct, 3 2008 @ 02:16 AM
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Originally posted by Eleleth
I would not go so far to say that Christianity was fabricated for this purpose, but it nevertheless seems to have been the vehicle for the first attempt at the creation of a one-world religion.

Interesting Eleleth. Out of curiosity, what makes you believe Christianity wasn't fabricated? Perhaps the Romans observed the power and numbers of people adhering to the already-existing Monotheistic religion Judaism and realised that those Jews had more unity than a group of Heathen tribes. I think that once we introduce to this argument all of the documented theories about Jesus=Horus and the Zeitgeist claim that the cross represents the four seasons, it all of a sudden becomes very believable that a religion could be fabricated out of thin air.

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posted on Oct, 3 2008 @ 03:02 AM
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You are correct if you change the word christianity to christendom. The original christians were persecuted by the romans. They (original christians) wanted to remain neutral and seperate from secular governments. It wasn't long (about couple hundred years or so)before true christianity was hijacked by apostates and christendom was born. From then you see the church and state interlocked and both used to further each others ends.



posted on Oct, 3 2008 @ 07:14 PM
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Originally posted by Cythraul
Interesting Eleleth. Out of curiosity, what makes you believe Christianity wasn't fabricated? Perhaps the Romans observed the power and numbers of people adhering to the already-existing Monotheistic religion Judaism and realised that those Jews had more unity than a group of Heathen tribes. I think that once we introduce to this argument all of the documented theories about Jesus=Horus and the Zeitgeist claim that the cross represents the four seasons, it all of a sudden becomes very believable that a religion could be fabricated out of thin air.

Well, what Christianity became is self-evident. But who created Christianity, and how do we account for the first 300 years of its existence before Constantine? Where do the Ebionites and the Jerusalem Church fit into this? What were the roles of Paul of Tarsus and Simon Magus? This is something I admit I cannot answer.

[edit on 3-10-2008 by Eleleth]



posted on Oct, 4 2008 @ 06:57 AM
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Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
You are correct if you change the word christianity to christendom. The original christians were persecuted by the romans. They (original christians) wanted to remain neutral and seperate from secular governments. It wasn't long (about couple hundred years or so)before true christianity was hijacked by apostates and christendom was born. From then you see the church and state interlocked and both used to further each others ends.

A fair point, that I can concede. My attack is not intended to be on Christ, God, or the original teachings of the religion (although I am skeptical about the existence of Jesus as depicted in the Bible). If it helps you to see the point made in my OP - that the Church's main purpose was to usher in Globalism - then by all means replace my use of the word 'Christianity' with 'Christendom'. Thanks for your input.


Originally posted by Eleleth
Well, what Christianity became is self-evident. But who created Christianity, and how do we account for the first 300 years of its existence before Constantine? Where do the Ebionites and the Jerusalem Church fit into this? What were the roles of Paul of Tarsus and Simon Magus? This is something I admit I cannot answer.

I think my general response to this issue would be that the lineage of secret elites serving this Globalist agenda extends back beyond the Romans. However, it was the Romans who put the plan into action. Earlier proponents, such as the Ebionites were likely linked to this secret lineage. The Romans were only one part of the grand scheme, but through the creation of Roman Catholicism, they were the ultimate perpetrators of this great deception and they had the soldiers to enforce it.



posted on Oct, 23 2008 @ 02:05 PM
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Well, you definitely have a well thought out post. I have said for quite some time that the "great deception" that the anciet prophets spoke of will be propagated largely by what many call the "church." This is not a new idea to me.

If one looks at the history of the Roman empire, from which Christianity certainly had its strength, it is obvious that they were abhorrrnt towards any belief system which disagreed with the "church." People were labeled "heretics," "destitutes," et cetera.



posted on Dec, 7 2008 @ 05:15 PM
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There's a movie that talks about this in some detail that you might find interesting and/or informative. Check it out. It's called Ring of Power:
www.redicecreations.com...
There are some nasty little details the "elite" have been hiding for quite some time, presented in this film. It's not the end-all be-all of everything about the true background of christianity, but it's a start. If you just keep digging, you'll find quite a bit more evidence for your personal discovery. Share it with everyone you can, and never stop asking questions!

Enjoy!

edit: Oops, I forgot to mention. The movie is 5 hours long - not something to just sit down and watch over coffee right before work


[edit on 12/7/2008 by kevintorvalds]



posted on Dec, 8 2008 @ 03:40 PM
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Thanks Kevin. Sounds intriguing.

I'll have a go at watching it and get back to you with my thoughts.



posted on Dec, 8 2008 @ 05:21 PM
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Good post, I must say that I largely agree with your hypothesis in many ways. I think of it more in the context of how Empires are built, and of course the Catholic Church does call itself "The Holy Roman Empire." Homogenization is a powerful force for creating servitude in the masses. The weak are easy to conquer, so the whole "turn the other cheek" mentality was just what the doctor ordered. What I find most interesting is how many Mythraic and Zoroastrian concepts were incorporated into Christianity when Constantine got his hands on it. Heck, the world will be celebrating "Sol Invictus" later this month, but they now call it Christmas. In the original Jewish concept of a messiah, there was never the notion that it would be the result of a "virgin birth," and I'm sure it's been said before but the Eucharist itself smacks of the quasi-cannibalistic Mythraic religious practices (why on earth would you want to eat the flesh and drink the blood of "God," that doesn't sound Jewish at all, since they are absolutely forbidden to ingest blood-- not to mention the fact that it says in the "Old Testament" that God isn't a man to begin with, and the notion of God having a physical form in the original Hebraic theology was about as kosher as a bacon-double cheeseburger).

I remember a great quote which I think applies quite well here: "Rome didn't convert to Christianity, Christianity converted to Rome." And for the record, once again I must state I am neither christian nor am I jewish, but I am a student of religion in general and moreso a seeker of truth.

Peace,
Hex23



posted on Dec, 8 2008 @ 05:41 PM
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I am in agreement, thought about the same thing, watch *Esoteric Agenda* if you already haven't, some parts you might find useful.

And yes, many followers are indoctronated into the religious system, very indocotronated.

I think we are a bit on the late side, but maybe an ATS Hero will arise someday




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