Vice Presidential Debate- Palin vs. Biden: The Thread

Originally posted by Tomis_Nexis
I'm not even an American, and I cannot wait to watch this debate. We're all going to play a drinking game....

-Anytime either or says a cliche, for example "freedom isn't free", take a shot
-Anytime Palin starts an answer with "Uh...um" that's two shots
-Anytime Biden giggles at Palin take a shot and giggle at your buddy next to you.

Anyway, it should be a very entertaining debate.


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While I find this a disgusting mockery of our political system.....









I find it brilliant and am going out to buy the liquor now. thank you.

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It works for any political system trust me.

Plus, it's a great way to get friends together to relax and have a good time.

Edit; have fun BK, I hope we all last to the end of the game be safe.

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Oh, I have to agree with you about Biden. It could very well be a train wreck, the question is, which train will wreck first! That could go either way.

Originally posted by Grafilthy
This whole pick was a sham. It was designed to try to get a few pissed off Hillary voters.

Not true. The Palin pick was designed to rally the GOP base and to grab the headlines: it worked.

Originally posted by Grafilthy
It did NOT work. She has no idea what she herself believes, unless it's a "McCain-Palin policy"...

What makes you say that? Just becasue she had some rote responses in her NBC interview? That doesn't mean that she has no opinions of her own. All VP's move closer to the views of the person at the top of the ticket.

Palin was a sucessful mayor, governor, and state energy controller, without any talking points from the McCain campaign. In fact, she kicked out most of the Alaska GOP that helped her come to power.

She is an independant mind and has the track record to prove it.

- Boat

Palin just need to be herself. She got some pointers from her party and some debate practice so she just needs to be herself. As long as Biden doesn't ask someone in a wheelchair to stand up then he should do well. It's going to be an interesting debate to say the least. If this " bailout " whoops I mean " rescue " bill passes then does it matter who wins. What matters is we the people lost. It won't matter who wins the race because either way we'll end up screwed.

Originally posted by skeptic1
The debate is still 5 hours away....I guess a lot of people are going to tune in to watch a "presumed train wreck".

You got to understand that the chances of these debate turning into a disaster is very high.

With Gov. Palin latest interviews slips and Sen. Biden been so....Biden, this could very well turn into SNL.

reply to post by Boatphone


It work for the first couple of week but now thats intial spark and support is going down the drain.

Skepticism of Palin Growing, Poll Finds

And yes those latest interviews have a lot to do with it.
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Even her home town seems to have lost confidence... or never had it..





Right about now McCain is wishing he picked a real running mate instead of a gimmick. Oh well, his loss is Obama's lucky break.

The big question is whether she will have her hair up as usual or wear it down to hide a receiver in her ear.

Originally posted by buddhasystem

Originally posted by sos37
We'll have no choice but to accept defeat and to accept that the majority of the people want this country to be far worse off that it is now. It's the only reason why they would elect a man who stands for socialism.

It's quite phenomenal that we get to hear how things will get definitely worse if we change the course of the past 8 years... The course that brought us at a strategic disadvantage in the world, the course in which our political capital was squandered and along with it, trillions of dollars. The course which gave us the financial disaster, thanks to approaches similar to what McCain espouses.

It's beyond me how things will get "far worse" if we vote the bloodsuckers out.

Then you're just blind, because you aren't doing anything but putting in the same people causing the same mess over again. Obama voted for this bailout, meaning he's voting to nationalize the economy.

But wait, it gets better. Since you're an Obama supporter, then you should know that not only will the U.S. have a nationalized economy, we'll have nationalized healthcare. And then nationalized energy markets will follow in short order.

The leftists, aided by the media, have been pounding the ground hard for a year and a half now that all of this nation's problems from the energy crisis, to the financial crisis to starvation in the streets are the fault of George W. Bush, and they are pushing hard for Obama to get into office.

Just you wait. Like I said, you think things are bad now. In 2 years this country will most likely be four times as bad off as it is now. But of course, none of you Democrats give a damn about the truth anymore.

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Originally posted by sos37
Obama voted for this bailout, meaning he's voting to nationalize the economy.

First off, this is bs. Nobody is nationalizing economy and that sentence is plain silly.

Second, McCain voted for it as well -- means it's not as socialist as you so desperately are trying to portray.

And again, Bush and his homunculi like McCain got us into this hole, and it's plain stupid to keep stepping on the Republican rake.

Originally posted by buddhasystem

Originally posted by sos37
Obama voted for this bailout, meaning he's voting to nationalize the economy.

First off, this is bs. Nobody is nationalizing economy and that sentence is plain silly.

Second, McCain voted for it as well -- means it's not as socialist as you so desperately are trying to portray.

And again, Bush and his homunculi like McCain got us into this hole, and it's plain stupid to keep stepping on the Republican rake.

Go back and read the bill. It "bails out" executives who made piss-poor business decisions and people who couldn't get into homes with traditional loans, yet had no problem signing sub-prime mortgages without reading the paperwork. They screwed up and the government is giving them a pass, on our dime (middle class taxpayers). How is that NOT socialist?? As for companies whom have failed in the last few months, the government has assumed their assets. How is that not nationalization? If it's not, I'd to know what you call it. It's true that McCain voted for it, but he's not trying to nationalize Healthcare and energy at the same time.

And as for Bush, you're incorrect there too. This mess is the fault of the Democrats, and even Bill Clinton agreed with that statement (Read Here). So, what - you're going to say that Clinton is wrong now?

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MCCAIN SUSPENDED HIS CAMPAIGN TO GET THIS PASSED! MCCAIN SAID IT WOULD LEAD TO ANOTHER GREAT DEPRESSION IF HE DIDN'T PASS THE BILL!

So, McCain wants to socialize America. Get it straight.

Also, Palin's expectations have been lowered so much as long as she doesn't drool on herself she wins.

Also, good question, how much do people want to bet she wears an ear piece like Bush did in 2004?

Originally posted by sos37

Go back and read the bill. It "bails out" executives who made piss-poor business decisions and people who couldn't get into homes with traditional loans, yet had no problem signing sub-prime mortgages without reading the paperwork. They screwed up and the government is giving them a pass, on our dime (middle class taxpayers). How is that NOT socialist?? As for companies whom have failed in the last few months, the government has assumed their assets. How is that not nationalization? If it's not, I'd to know what you call it. It's true that McCain voted for it, but he's not trying to nationalize Healthcare and energy at the same time.

And as for Bush, you're incorrect there too. This mess is the fault of the Democrats, and even Bill Clinton agreed with that statement (Read Here). So, what - you're going to say that Clinton is wrong now?

MCCAIN SUSPENDED HIS CAMPAIGN TO PASS THE BILL! A BILL BUSH CALLED FOR! A BILL BUSH SAID NEEDED TO BE PASSED!
So get it right, Bush and Mccain wanted, needed, this bill to pass. BUSH AND MCCAIN!

reply to post by GordonJQ


Both McCain and Obama (along with Biden) voted for that bill. So, there is plenty of blame to pass around.

Plus, this isn't what this thread is about. It is suppose to be about the debate....not how ignorant Palin "seems" to be to some people, not about the bailout bill, not about McCain, and not about Obama.

It's a debate between the VP candidates....hence the name, subject, and topic of this thread.

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Tell that to Sos. Who brought it up first that Obama is the great devil who blah blah republican talking point blah bs bs bs blah blah.

Anyways, Palin can't lose. Unless she goes on a anti semetism rant or something she can't lose. She has done so poorly in interviews she could just sit there and drool and win.

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You making sound like if Bush economic policies have been a bless for this country and it hasn't cost any job loss, it hasn't contributed to this mortages mess, it hasn't hur the middle class or nothing.

The mortagages mess was cause by democrats and republicans alike in Congress and they should be handed down their punishment come November for those that didnt want to reform Freddie and Fannie and also for those who took contributions from the companies.

As far as Sen. Obama trying to nationalize everything, you need to inform yourself before you spew what the talking heads in Fox News say.

On health care reform, the American people are too often offered two extremes - government-run health care with higher taxes or letting the insurance companies operate without rules. Barack Obama and Joe Biden believe both of these extremes are wrong, and that’s why they’ve proposed a plan that strengthens employer coverage, makes insurance companies accountable and ensures patient choice of doctor and care without government interference.

The Obama-Biden plan provides affordable, accessible health care for all Americans, builds on the existing health care system, and uses existing providers, doctors and plans to implement the plan. Under the Obama-Biden plan, patients will be able to make health care decisions with their doctors, instead of being blocked by insurance company bureaucrats.

Under the plan, if you like your current health insurance, nothing changes, except your costs will go down by as much as $2,500 per year.

If you don’t like your health insurance, or you don’t have health insurance, you will have a choice of new, affordable health insurance options.

www.barackobama.com...

Sometimes it kills me when people dont educate themselves and just repeat what other say, an uninformed voter does a disservice to this country.

You say that Obama is a socialist which is a lie, well let me present to you McCain the dictator,



A maverick and straight talker indeed.

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Originally posted by ANoNyMiKE
Even her home town seems to have lost confidence... or never had it..

Reality check, those videos were not filmed in her hometown of Wasilla, they were filmed within the City of Anchorage. Anchorage, AK is a well known Democrat strong-hold, as it calls itself home to many transplants from areas such as Seattle, WA.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
Sos, here's McCain talking about how he's going to defict spend in the Trillions. Socialism anyone?

Anyways, can't wait! Will love Palin stammering and using the same talking points over and over again.

Originally posted by Bunch

Sometimes it kills me when people dont educate themselves and just repeat what other say, an uninformed voter does a disservice to this country.

You say that Obama is a socialist which is a lie, well let me present to you McCain the dictator,

Obama IS a Socialist. What do you call a complete Federal Government takeover of the Healthcare and Education systems? THAT is the purest definition of Socialism, and for you to fail to grasp such a fact is disconcerting. Obama is beyond a simple Socialist, he is in fact a Marxist. He also wants to stomp all over the 2nd Amendment by Federally instilling strict Firearms Bans, as well as his policy wish of expanding the definition of "Hate" Crimes (As opposed to "Love" Crimes), and increasing Welfare dependency. That is Socialism, which is only one step right of Communism.