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China's 'space' walk filmed under water?

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posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 04:59 PM
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Another good post
starred, good job.


Originally posted by logician magician
Or, you seem to think this is a better explanation... They could be doing this in a giant water tank, supplemented with real time CGI effects to.. you know, trick the world into believing that the Chinese actually made working space suits! I just don't understand what I'm seeing so it must be a trick!


I hope you're not implying that these were my thoughts. If you've read the rest of my replies I'm sure you'll see I was only looking for answers and not suggesting anything.




posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 05:10 PM
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OK, I see it now its at exactly 1:06 into the video
The bubble is right by his visor

Interesting!

Could it be an editing error of some sort after the fact??!!



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 05:14 PM
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Holy smokes, it's fake or rather a counterfeit space walk.

I see the air bubble at about the 1:05 mark, right after the guy says something about "naya,...."

Edit to add:
Is there such a thing as space bubbles?

For some reason I have the sudden urge to fart in space.

[edit on 1-10-2008 by Alxandro]

[edit on 1-10-2008 by Alxandro]



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 06:03 PM
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Star and flagged, they can no longer keep up this charade. The curtain is Falling.

I was wondering how they did it, i was thinking, green support wires on a green background. And using a computor to belnd them in, so it looks like space.

It would be better underwater. they got rid of most of the bubbles from the suits, but not all of them.

When you Jump in a bath, tiny bubbles get into all nooks and crevises on the body, same thing here. they didnt spend enough time underwater to get rid of all of them



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 06:16 PM
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It's an animated GIF, so pardon the loss in image quality, but even with this you can still clearly see the space fart.




posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 06:48 PM
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Why the heck would China fake a space walk?? Why!



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 07:15 PM
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Haha! Excellent gif, what program do you use to do that? or was it Screenshot screenshot screenshot...Paste into gimp and convert to gif?

Give this guy a star.



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 08:43 PM
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Originally posted by nutglow
Why the heck would China fake a space walk?? Why!



I don't know why they would have to since I have heard the a precondition for doing any business there is to unconditionally hand over important technology. Pretty much anything they have tech-wise has been given to them and they haven't had to do much of their own research.



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 09:18 PM
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After working many years under water I am confident this is not shot under water or any other liquid. I have not worked in space nor am I a video expert so I can not explain what we are seeing in the video.



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 09:21 PM
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Originally posted by nutglow
Why the heck would China fake a space walk?? Why!



Because they have gotten so good at forgery with everthing they produce, that's all they know how to do.
Plus also for world notorioty ~spelling~.
Remember the Olympic's CGI fireworks display?



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 10:42 PM
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I for one do not think China faked the space walk... It's just ridiculous to think so...

And that video doesn't look fake at all.



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 11:24 PM
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chill man,
probably just a piece of debris falling off from the suit, or something being ejecting off from the suit



posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 01:57 AM
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Maybe there's no such thing as space and it's all just one big hoax?



posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 02:26 AM
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posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 03:11 AM
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It's not a bubble. Bubbles tend to be round not oblong with square edges!!

It's a piece of debris and in space the slightest nudge will send anything merrily on it's way in a straight line forever.....well until it hits something else.

The "bubble" is increasing in size through the frames ie it's is getting closer to the camera. This means the "bubble" is moving upwards and laterally towards the camera. Bubbles in water do not do that unless the whole shot has been taken at an angle of about 45 degrees downards. That would be a really weird fake since you would have orienteer your props at 45 degrees to the side/bottom of the pool. That's an awful lot of trouble for no gain.

In addition there is no slowing down of any motion. Even if the film was speeded up as some suggest you can't hide the laws of fluid dynamics and physics. Water adds considerable drag to all motion. Anything moving would decelerate very rapidly. This is clealry not happening no matter what speed the film s running at!

Sorry this is not a fake. The US will have to wake up to the fact that the Chinese will overtake the US in the dominance of space. Then the Indians, Japanese, Koreans.....

Just wait till the Chinese get to the moon and can't find any LEM landing gear or moon buggies
Now that will cause a stir won't it!



posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 04:18 AM
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Thank you alexandro,
Your looping gif clearly shows a bubble under a tank filled with water.
The Chinese have faced technical issues preventing them from actually performing a space walk, so they faked this in a water tank.
How embarrassing.



posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 04:56 AM
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You can watch the full space walk in high quality here. Make sure you click "watch in high quality" below the video.






posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 05:20 AM
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The 1:06 one does look like a bubble, but go to the 2:33 one and look at the trajectory. Now right after that, maybe a second later, there is another, smaller one that flies off in a very different trajectory. Unless they significantly rotated the entire rig within a second, then the bubbles would float to the surface in the exact same or very similar direction. The trajectories are too far off to be bubbles under water. One appears to travel on a heading of about 315 degrees and the second seems to be about 340 degrees. That would require the entire rig to be significantly rotated in only a second...
Sorry folks, but this is the real deal.

[edit on 2-10-2008 by semiunknown]



posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 05:52 AM
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i have decided to pipe up on this topic.

i was speaking with a friend teh day it all happened and he was sure it was fake, for a few reasons, no stars and the earth was not moving, 2 things i manage to explain at the drop of a hat, and im no space scientist.

earth not moving as their in a geo syncronus orbit.
no stars as the light scorce they are using while filming blanks them out like talking a pic of the sky with a flash camera.

he then went on about how it was filmed under water, and then i see a lot of people think this, personaly, i just think people are too cynical these days, after all, why would they want to fake it, china have a plan and then have the money and people to make it happen.

they have a real simple plan as well, i love it.

spacewalk (test suits ect), then landing on the moon, then landing on mars.

they dont want to do this to just show off!! they have an objective, most likley industrial based! and who could blame them.

the bubble! ... my theory (could be a wild one, but noone else has suggested it)

I woudl imagine that in a space suit it coudl get pretty hot and sticky, loads of sweat and condensation that could just pile up and make it a very uncomfortable experience, my theory on this is that perhaps the space suits are designed to vent excess miosture! and if that was the case when ejected the moisture would disapear out of from the other way from where they (really, the moisture bubble wouldnet have moved, rather, the space ship and astronaughts moved on their orbital trajectotry, leaving the wee blob of water where it was first ejected, to us though it would look like it rushing up to the top like a bubble trying to escape from a pool.

who knows, the bubble might still be out their! just waiting for someone to go back round.




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posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 05:55 AM
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Originally posted by Alxandro
Holy smokes, it's fake or rather a counterfeit space walk.

I see the air bubble at about the 1:05 mark, right after the guy says something about "naya,...."

Edit to add:
Is there such a thing as space bubbles?

For some reason I have the sudden urge to fart in space.

[edit on 1-10-2008 by Alxandro]

[edit on 1-10-2008 by Alxandro]


No good... In space, no one can smell you fart.

oO

Well, it is strange, this. When I saw the title, I thought "Here we go..." then I looked and that sure is strange.

And given that the official 'congratulatory' photos of the Astronauts in space were originally taken while they were STILL on earth, and given China's track record for obfuscating the truth in lieu of glamor, I can believe anything is possible from them.

I certainly have an open opinion about this.

Yet others do make very good and valid points re them actually being in space.

Good thread, a thinker for sure !




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