Originally posted by cognoscente
In response to: OP, and to an extent: EnlightenUp
Why do you assume your brain has a zoom function?
Why assume that I am assuming? I have empirical observations though unfortunately they cannot also be experience directly by another-- that is their
nature. I was attempting to offer a non-OOBE hypothesis but that does not account for everything. I will cover more detail now in order to illustrate
that. I will rearrange your post to put similar ideas together.
What you saw could have merely been a misinterpretation of your surroundings.
I am not convinced it is that simple.
You could have as equally likely been lying on the front of your stomach, with a full frontal view of your bedsheets. How can you tell your
body was parallel with the frame of the bed? Maybe you were looking at the corner of the ceiling or room. How are you certain that you were correctly
oriented if you were incapable of seeing the rest of the room, your face being just a few inches from this so-called "ceiling".
Not if I am lying on my back, no. Those are mutually-exclusive positions. If I were lying on my stomach, I would "awaken" on my stomach.
I can tell if I am parallel same way I can tell it is parallel at any other time. Secondly, being squarely under the sheets limits the possible range
for being askew.
I have seen the entirety of the room and/or other distinct objects within it the majority of the times.
I have had instances of just staring at something while being half asleep with my eyes open but I am just there staring at it and nothing interesting
is going on. It gets my attention and I wake myself anyway.
Does your ceiling have a stucco pattern? Crown moldings, perhaps? The grooves in your sheets could be similar to those patterns in the very
corner of the ceiling, or on the wall behind or in front of you.
When a child, my bed was clear of walls on three sides. The wall by the headboard had a big window and so was unique. Initially, the walls and ceiling
were a while paper that has tiny flower-like images about an 3/4-inch apart and in an orthogonal grid pattern.
Later the room was redecorated. There was a divider moulding a couple feet off the floor with a brown/orange vertial patterned wallpaper below it and
a tan plaid pattern on the walls above it. The ceiling was painted off-white. My sheets and pillows were much darker than the ceiling. There was a
crown moulding installed that was stained dark brown. I had a brass bedpost-- well, posts with smaller vertical brass bars in between-- not quite a
headboard and not quite simply a post (what do they call those?).
Today, in a different house, the only wall near my bed is on the right (it is squarely against it) and there is a large piece of artwork nailed to it.
I have no such artwork printed on my sheets and my comforter is dark blue. There is no wall by my head, the wall towards my feet has a bookshelf
speaker attached, to my left is the computer, door and closet. The headboard is actually sort of a combo shelf/drawer gizmo that stands on its own. On
that is a TV, cable box, and DVD.
My face can be right up against the right wall if I want but since I could see the artwork, that defintely wasn't the case in the last instance. I
haven't had one of these experiences in this house before.
Attempting to see much of anything behind me would be and would have been impossible without contortion. Any of that would have been distorted badly
by perspective rather than a clean, straight-on view.
Also, this lucidity with which you describe the imagery of your ceiling... can you not clearly recollect when this feeling vanished and when
you faded back into dream or sleep? Noting the transition from this phase to the next might be important in understanding how and why you came to see
what you saw.
When younger, I would simply have it occur while partly conscious and trying to sleep. It was strange enough that I would fully awaken myself to think
The most recent incident was upon waking and thus I was fully conscious to reflect on it afterwards. I got up to think about it for awhile. I was not
so close to the ceiling but perhaps watching myself sink down from a foot or so above my body. I was facing upwards and happened to be looking at the
artwork on the wall to the right.
If I had simply fallen into sleep until morning then I doubt I would recall such an incident.
Continuing, I believe there is an extent to which you can almost perfectly imagine the position of things or objects you are very familiar with
in a dream state. Examining an account of any person afflicted with blindness, one will determine that they are capable of remembering the situation
of mostly stationary objects in rooms they have grown accustomed to within inches of its actual position.
This is something precise and photographically accurate. What I am talking about is an element in addition this sort of phenomenon. Additionally,
there is the rumbling noise that the more dreamlike experiences lack when "coming back" or "leaving".
What you are talking about has happened and is less stable and detailed. Sometimes the room furnishings were from the past; sometimes objects were
repositioned; different objects existed or some objects were absent. My own experiences that mirror yours lack something and are more dreamlike and
What sets apart the "float" experience from the "zoom" experience is that of the perspective in the room being from my position on the bed and
changing accurately as a view from a camera in the position of my "eyes" would. The "zoom" and "float" may be the same but zooming is how it
appears when fixated on the ceiling alone. The movement from bed to a more elevated perspective and vice-versa is gradual instead of finding one's
self either there or not (i.e. travel instead of jump).
When younger, getting a glimpse of my own body from outside did happen a few times. The perspective change and what is visible is definitely not
sheets or corners. One thing I will mention is that there has never been an instance that I recall where I have any sort of "astral body" that is a
duplicate wearing the clothes I went to bed with even though most having similar experiences seem to describe one. It is simply as though awareness is