What Do 9 Of The People Who Voted NO on Bailout Have In Common?

changed but the original post is there, in its entirety

Oy vey, what is nice Jewish boy to do? It appears to me that the anti-Semitic lemmings are out in full force. Was there a sale on brown wool that I wasn't made aware of? I love a good sale, especially the basement sales at Macy's. Nothing like waking up early and having a nosh and then hitting the garment district.

Shalom.

All i KNOW for fact is that Israel is spying on the U.S. more than ANY country.

If anyone shouldn't be trusted its ISRAEL and their money grubbing ways. They own THEE largest Telecom companies in the World. Also NSA, CIA, and FBI found THEE largest spy ring in the Continental United States in History right before 9/11.

whatreallyhappened.com...

www.counterpunch.org...

Its not "Jews".......Its ISRAEL!

These Senators and Congressmen are funneling money towards Special interests in Israel (ie Banks and Telecom companies)

www.rense.com...



[edit on 1-10-2008 by Alferd Packer]

So less than 1/3 of the Jews voted against the bill while more than 1/2 the Christians voted against it so that means the Jews are against it? Huh?

So if the Christians had voted like Jews the bailout would have passed 300 to 133? Damn Jews!

Originally posted by mybigunit

Originally posted by FatherLukeDuke
I vote for leaving the thread as it is. It's good demostration of how posters should run some very simple fact checks before starting a thread which makes wild claims. It also demonstrates how many people are willing to swallow BS and embrace ignorance just because it fits their pre-concieved, probably anti-jewish, ideas.

Fair enough btw did u get my U2U?

Yes, got it thanks. I will watch the video and get back to you.

However I sincerelyadvise you to stop quoting Hitler to support your theories. It is very wrong. I sort of just about buy you aren't anti-jewish, but when you start quoting Hitler you start doing a damn good impersonation of someone who is. This quote you sent (and posted on another thread) actually makes me feel quite ill, considering the events that followed this speech:

"In the course of my life I have very often been a prophet, and have usually been ridiculed for it. During the time of my struggle for power it was in the first instance only the Jewish race that received my prophecies with laughter when I said that I would one day take over the leadership of the State, and with it that of the whole nation, and that I would then among other things settle the Jewish problem. Their laughter was uproarious, but I think that for some time now they have been laughing on the other side of their face. Today I will once more be a prophet: if the international Jewish financiers in and outside Europe should succeed in plunging the nations once more into a world war, then the result will not be the Bolshevizing of the earth, and thus the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe"

So the Jews were responsible for 2 world wars? Not a German land grab then? Come on man, you are quoting a raving lunatic and criminal of the worst kind.

reply to post by FatherLukeDuke


But what did I say afterwords? I said its ironic that he blames the Jews for plunging the world into world wars and then taking money from the very people he says causes the problems. Once again I look at all sides of history. Frankly I dont know if I care who things Im anti-Semetic or not Im going to continue to ask questions about history and Im not going to listen to everything Im fed by my government. Im sorry Ive been lied to way to much by my government so now Im going to look into things more. To say that if I quote Hitler (One of the most influential men of the 20th century like him or not) that I am a bigot then I guess Im a bigot. I recommend you watch the video it is long but it will give you an insight on who funded Hitler.

If you really want to study history and why people like Hitler did the things he did then quoting him or finding out what he said on issues would be smart right? We went to war in Iraq because we were told there were weapons of mass destruction there and that there would be mushroom clouds here in the states. It wasnt to long ago that if you questioned this you were anti american am I not correct? I know your not American but you might as well be we are both practically brothers. I say look at what Hitler has to say and why he says it. I say look at Churchill and what he said and why he said it I say look at FDR and what he said and why he said it....hell look at even Stalin who said a quote that to me sticks hard and that is "What I love about America is they will sell you the rope to hang themselves with." I guess Im a bigot because I quoted him also. I say look at all aspects of history not just some government fed propaganda version. I disagree that the WWs was over a land grab by Germany.


[edit on 1-10-2008 by mybigunit]

reply to post by mybigunit

There is no harm in quoting anyone you like - the point is if you are using it to support your argument or not. Which you did do with that Hitler quote in the past.

The causes of the world wars are many an complex, but lebensraum was at the heart of them. German nationalists wanted to create a superpower to rival Britain (with its colonies) and the US (with its vast living space and natural resources) - they thought they could only become a superpower by expanding - mainly eastwards. Anyway - happy to debate this point on a different thread.

Is this going anywhere? What is the purpose of this thread? It kind of had direction but now...?

When a 2% minority is over represented in banking and government and they vote as a block, such as on this "bailout," red flags rise.

Remember, fear is the tool of the devil and this "we must rush, rush" is always a sinister thing. I need not remind you of the Patriot Act.

Let's look at the new dictator this bailout wants to create.

If the new dictator was a Moslem, would the Jewish vote for complete immunity from judicial review as found in the bailout now?

The whole thing stinks of fraud.

reply to post by Areal51


I think I was trying to disprove the Jewish angle!

I guess I failed miserably and for that I am sorry. I have stated that I am not convinced and I am glad that someone has proven that it is simply not true. I tried to bring forward some of the Jewish Senators that voted against and had not been able to find more. I am not a believer in the existence of Zionists and have had a few discussions on it arguing against it. I certainly do not want to be tarred with the same brush and would always stay clear of doing it to others.

It should read "what do 20 of the people who voted YES on the bailout have in common".

Just letting you know.

I think the oil industry should bail the banks out, then they should all be shot in the crotch.

reply to post by Spoodily


since he was implying that the no votes were all jewish votes, the edit stands. It is a hell of a nice example of how one can take something that isn't fact, assume it is, and create a little mob mentality.

fortunately, we have a few members who actually looked into the claim.

Originally posted by Lebowski achiever
reply to post by mybigunit

 

Yes, I concur that it is a good discussion to have.

However, I have this point to make. How many Members of Congress are Jewish? They are still in the minority.

Roman Catholics are the majority (130). It would be interesting to see how they voted.

newsweek.washingtonpost.com...

The Jews and Catholics are so awesome heh heh. They are my heroes.

reply to post by Spoodily

Originally posted by Spoodily
It should read "what do 20 of the people who voted YES on the bailout have in common".

What's so special about the 20?

Do you have no interest in the 21 Baptists who voted yes?

Or the 23 Methodist?

Or the 64 Catholics?

Or how about the 19 single/unmarried House members?

Or the 25 House members over the age of 70 who voted for the bill?

What are we looking for again?


reply to post by Lebowski achiever

Originally posted by Lebowski achiever
Roman Catholics are the majority (130). It would be interesting to see how they voted.

Ask and ye shall receive.

Catholics FOR: (64)

Rep. Ryan, Paul (REP-WI-1st)
Rep. Obey, David (DEM-WI-7th)
Rep. Moran, James (DEM-VA-8th)
Rep. Brady, Kevin (REP-TX-8th)
Rep. Reyes, Silvestre (DEM-TX-16th)
Rep. Hinojosa, Ruben (DEM-TX-15th)
Rep. Gonzalez, Charles (DEM-TX-20th)
Rep. Langevin, James (DEM-RI-2nd)
Rep. Kennedy, Patrick (DEM-RI-1st)
Rep. Sestak, Joe (DEM-PA-7th)
Rep. Murtha, John (DEM-PA-12th)
Rep. Murphy, Patrick (DEM-PA-8th)
Rep. Kanjorski, Paul (DEM-PA-11th)
Rep. Doyle, Mike (DEM-PA-14th)
Rep. Brady, Robert (DEM-PA-1st)
Rep. Boehner, John (REP-OH-8th)
Rep. Wilson, Charlie (DEM-OH-6th)
Rep. Ryan, Tim (DEM-OH-17th)
Rep. Walsh, James (REP-NY-25th)
Rep. McHugh, John (REP-NY-23rd)
Rep. King, Peter (REP-NY-3rd)
Rep. Fossella, Vito (REP-NY-13th)
Rep. Velazquez, Nydia (DEM-NY-12th)
Rep. Rangel, Charles (DEM-NY-15th)
Rep. McNulty, Michael (DEM-NY-21st)
Rep. McCarthy, Carolyn (DEM-NY-4th)
Rep. Higgins, Brian (DEM-NY-27th)
Rep. Hall, John (DEM-NY-19th)
Rep. Crowley, Joseph (DEM-NY-7th)
Rep. Bishop, Tim (DEM-NY-1st)
Rep. Arcuri, Michael (DEM-NY-24th)
Rep. Porter, Jon (REP-NV-3rd)
Rep. Ferguson, Michael (REP-NJ-7th)
Rep. Sires, Albio (DEM-NJ-13th)
Rep. Pallone, Frank (DEM-NJ-6th)
Rep. Oberstar, James (DEM-MN-8th)
Rep. McCollum, Betty (DEM-MN-4th)
Rep. Camp, Dave (REP-MI-4th)
Rep. Kildee, Dale (DEM-MI-5th)
Rep. Dingell, John (DEM-MI-15th)
Rep. Neal, Richard (DEM-MA-2nd)
Rep. McGovern, James (DEM-MA-3rd)
Rep. Markey, Edward (DEM-MA-7th)
Rep. Capuano, Michael (DEM-MA-8th)
Rep. Melancon, Charlie (DEM-LA-3rd)
Rep. Ellsworth, Brad (DEM-IN-8th)
Rep. Donnelly, Joe (DEM-IN-2nd)
Rep. LaHood, Ray (REP-IL-18th)
Rep. Hare, Phil (DEM-IL-17th)
Rep. Gutierrez, Luis (DEM-IL-4th)
Rep. Marshall, Jim (DEM-GA-8th)
Rep. Castle, Michael (REP-DE-AL)
Rep. Larson, John (DEM-CT-1st)
Rep. DeLauro, Rosa (DEM-CT-3rd)
Rep. Radanovich, George (REP-CA-19th)
Rep. Lungren, Dan (REP-CA-3rd)
Rep. Tauscher, Ellen (DEM-CA-10th)
Rep. Speier, Jackie (DEM-CA-12th)
Rep. Pelosi, Nancy (DEM-CA-8th)
Rep. Miller, George (DEM-CA-7th)
Rep. McNerney, Gerald (DEM-CA-11th)
Rep. Eshoo, Anna (DEM-CA-14th)
Rep. Costa, Jim (DEM-CA-20th)
Rep. Cardoza, Dennis (DEM-CA-18th)



Catholics AGAINST: (67)

Rep. Grijalva, Raul (DEM-AZ-7th)
Rep. Mitchell, Harry (DEM-AZ-5th)
Rep. Pastor, Ed (DEM-AZ-4th)
Rep. Renzi, Rick (REP-AZ-1st)
Rep. Baca, Joe (DEM-CA-43rd)
Rep. Becerra, Xavier (DEM-CA-31st)
Rep. Napolitano, Grace (DEM-CA-38th)
Rep. Roybal-Allard, Lucille (DEM-CA-34th)
Rep. Sanchez, Linda (DEM-CA-39th)
Rep. Sanchez, Loretta (DEM-CA-47th)
Rep. Solis, Hilda (DEM-CA-32nd)
Rep. Thompson, Mike (DEM-CA-1st)
Rep. Watson, Diane (DEM-CA-33rd)
Rep. Bilbray, Brian (REP-CA-50th)
Rep. Nunes, Devin (REP-CA-21st)
Rep. Royce, Ed (REP-CA-40th)
Rep. Salazar, John (DEM-CO-3rd)
Rep. Courtney, Joe (DEM-CT-2nd)
Rep. Brown-Waite, Ginny (REP-FL-5th)
Rep. Diaz-Balart, Lincoln (REP-FL-21st)
Rep. Diaz-Balart, Mario (REP-FL-25th)
Rep. Mack, Connie (REP-FL-14th)
Rep. Gingrey, Phil (REP-GA-11th)
Rep. King, Steve (REP-IA-5th)
Rep. Costello, Jerry (DEM-IL-12th)
Rep. Lipinski, Dan (DEM-IL-3rd)
Rep. Visclosky, Peter (DEM-IN-1st)
Rep. Welch, Peter (DEM-VT-AL)
Rep. McCaul, Michael (REP-TX-10th)
Rep. Rodriguez, Ciro (DEM-TX-23rd)
Rep. Lampson, Nicholas (DEM-TX-22nd)
Rep. Cuellar, Henry (DEM-TX-28th)
Rep. Murphy, Timothy (REP-PA-18th)
Rep. Cazayoux, Don (DEM-LA-6th)
Rep. English, Philip (REP-PA-3rd)
Rep. Holden, Tim (DEM-PA-17th)
Rep. Carney, Christopher (DEM-PA-10th)
Rep. Scalise, Steve (REP-LA-1st)
Rep. Delahunt, William (DEM-MA-10th)
Rep. Lynch, Stephen (DEM-MA-9th)
Rep. Altmire, Jason (DEM-PA-4th)
Rep. DeFazio, Peter (DEM-OR-4th)
Rep. Sullivan, John (REP-OK-1st)
Rep. Tiberi, Patrick (REP-OH-12th)
Rep. Michaud, Michael (DEM-ME-2nd)
Rep. Schmidt, Jean (REP-OH-2nd)
Rep. Latta, Robert (REP-OH-5th)
Rep. Stupak, Bart (DEM-MI-1st)
Rep. Chabot, Steve (REP-OH-1st)
Rep. Knollenberg, Joseph (REP-MI-9th)
Rep. McCotter, Thaddeus (REP-MI-11th)
Rep. Kucinich, Dennis (DEM-OH-10th)
Rep. Kaptur, Marcy (DEM-OH-9th)
Rep. Serrano, Jose (DEM-NY-16th)
Rep. Hinchey, Maurice (DEM-NY-22nd)
Rep. Gillibrand, Kirsten (DEM-NY-20th)
Rep. Smith, Christopher (REP-NJ-4th)
Rep. LoBiondo, Frank (REP-NJ-2nd)
Rep. Clay, Wm. Lacy (DEM-MO-1st)
Rep. Pascrell, Bill (DEM-NJ-8th)
Rep. Shea-Porter, Carol (DEM-NH-1st)
Rep. Fortenberry, Jeff (REP-NE-1st)
Rep. Hulshof, Kenny (REP-MO-9th)
Rep. McHenry, Patrick (REP-NC-10th)
Rep. Taylor, Gene (DEM-MS-4th)
Rep. Jones, Walter (REP-NC-3rd)
Rep. Foxx, Virginia (REP-NC-5th)

reply to post by RustykShade

Originally posted by RustykShade
Is this going anywhere? What is the purpose of this thread? It kind of had direction but now...?

Well, it's given me a nice new addition to my signature line.



[edit on 1-10-2008 by loam]

Admin Edit noted the voting record, that you were way off. And you said you wanted this thread closed if you were wrong. Well, you are. So close the thread.

reply to post by loam


Actually it was a rhetorical question. Much like yourself I wanted to get a different train of thought going as I didn't see a pattern. But thanks for that though!
soooo Straight down the middle. I guess the only pattern emerging is more Democrats are for the bail out. I think that says it all really.