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What Do 9 Of The People Who Voted NO on Bailout Have In Common?

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posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 06:48 PM
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Jeff Rense is a radio host.

He posts a lot of "conspiracy" news on his site, some good, some bad, but most of it of the "Blame the Zionists" variety.




posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 06:50 PM
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Originally posted by Dinwiddy
Take he 700 billion and spread it equally over every citizen 18 yr old and above. After taxes that gives each person $227,000.
That would give every graduating Hi School Senior a 4 yr college education, pay off the mortgage, buy a car, Take vacations, go out to dinner 5 times a week and many other lkuxuries. Plus it puts a huge tax back to the federal govt for Health and education.


your math is WAY off



posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 07:00 PM
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Originally posted by asmeone2
reply to post by mybigunit
 


Jeff Rense is a radio host.

He posts a lot of "conspiracy" news on his site, some good, some bad, but most of it of the "Blame the Zionists" variety.


Yeah I just looked him up. His site has to be one of the ugliest damn sites Ive seen but yet he says its ranked in the 1800s? Ill look more into his views but just wanted to let you know I did look him up.



posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 07:06 PM
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Originally posted by mybigunit

Originally posted by asmeone2
Jeff Rense would be proud of you, Mybigunit!

I really don't know what to make of that. I agree it is a disproportional number of people of that demographic, but I don't like to go about pointing one race/religion as the culprite. Greed and corruption span across every dogma.


Im not sure who Jeff Rense is but Ill take that as an atta boy.


www.rense.com... Some of the stuff on his site can be a bit out there but most i agree with...



posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 07:36 PM
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Originally posted by mybigunit

Originally posted by asmeone2
reply to post by mybigunit
 


Jeff Rense is a radio host.

He posts a lot of "conspiracy" news on his site, some good, some bad, but most of it of the "Blame the Zionists" variety.


Yeah I just looked him up. His site has to be one of the ugliest damn sites Ive seen but yet he says its ranked in the 1800s? Ill look more into his views but just wanted to let you know I did look him up.


Thanks


He posts some really good stuff there, but IMO tends to see Zionists behind every corner, and then gives webspace to some really inane "expert opinions." Dr. Makaw comes to mind



posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 07:48 PM
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Originally posted by caballero
...the richest people in the world are jewish and they are pulling the strings behind everything.

I dont think youre anti anything the fact of the matter is that the jewish big wigs are trying to inch us closer and closer into a one world government. Almost makes me think that hitler was true about the jews, though he did go about it in a truly horrible manner he was true about their intentions.


No no. The zionists are MADE to look like they are behind it all. Just another layer of deception. Remember, Jesus said that there would be jews who would SAY they were jews, but weren't really jews.

Makes you wonder why the ashkenazi jews were kicked out of every country they ever lived in (except the United States).



posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 08:03 PM
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Originally posted by icecap

Originally posted by Dinwiddy
Take he 700 billion and spread it equally over every citizen 18 yr old and above. After taxes that gives each person $227,000.
That would give every graduating Hi School Senior a 4 yr college education, pay off the mortgage, buy a car, Take vacations, go out to dinner 5 times a week and many other lkuxuries. Plus it puts a huge tax back to the federal govt for Health and education.


your math is WAY off


Very much so... but this is the issue with people who believe emails.... In case you didn't know, this one is making the rounds much like the Obama slander emails...

To correct the figure, I'll use the estimated TAXPAYING US citizens, as I don't see how it's fair to give anything to those that don't pay taxes...

EST. Taxpayers per the figure given for the Stimulus deal - 130, 000, 000...

700,000,000,000 / 130,000,000 = a whopping $5,384.61 per person..

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Sorry for the corrective rant, but I tire of seeing false/uneducated figures tossed around...

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Back to the topic... Yeah, I don't really see how or why people want to make a religious issue out of this. Does it really matter what someone believes when the majority of them are not affected by the outcome of this whole ordeal either way?

Seriously... I'm sure a good mix of people did/didn't vote for it....

It's time to stop nitpicking/looking for an agenda, and start preparing yourself for the inevitable collapse that is coming...

If they pass the bailout, they are just taking the collapse off of Bush's record and putting it on Obama's...

If they don't, then the market, and the dollar, are doomed sooner than you think..

Enjoy life... Don't worry about who is a Jew and who isn't... It really doesn't have anything to do with it...

They are ALL politicians, and THAT is where your attention should be focused....

[edit on 30-9-2008 by Azazelus]



posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 08:17 PM
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Originally posted by mybigunit

Originally posted by TrueAmerican
Very interesting. S&F from me.

Meeself, been into checking out the Royal Bank of Scotland. Something sinister is up with those people and this bailout.


Interesting whats going on at RBS? I havent heard of anything please indulge me.

TrueAmerican may be referring to this article in the Sunday Herald.
"THE ROYAL Bank of Scotland is to be one of the biggest beneficiaries of the planned $700 billion bail-out that comes courtesy of the American tax-payer if the US Congress gives the financial rescue package the go-ahead ..." www.sundayherald.com...

I'm not sure where I found this. It may have been on one of the ATS Threads. I know I Emailed it to somebody and that is how I just found it again.



posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 08:34 PM
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To be quite honest I have only recently looked into the jewish connection to everything so im still a novice with this info. So does that mean rothschild isnt really jewish just posing?



posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 08:35 PM
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Interesting article. Question isnt Fred Goodwin Jewish also? He is the CEO of RBS.



posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 08:38 PM
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Originally posted by caballero
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To be quite honest I have only recently looked into the jewish connection to everything so im still a novice with this info. So does that mean rothschild isnt really jewish just posing?


Correct. He uses the Jewish religion to mask himself. He funded Hitler who killed many Jews. So did JP Morgan and Rockefeller. These people arent Jews although they claim to be. They are the devil in disguise. But what do you do if you even mention anything Jewish you get labeled an anti semite or a bigot and that is how they want it. They dont want their motives questioned. The Jews just like the main stream Muslims have been hi jacked.



posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 08:46 PM
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Ok, I am NOT Jewish, but here is some food for thought for all you "Jewish conspiracy" freaks.

1. People with a 5000 year history might just tend to learn to be good with money. Other cultures with long histories, such as the Greeks, and the Arabs also are good at accumulating wealth. No conspiracy, just good financial skills.
2. Said people might also just be apt to send their kids to school for a decent education more often.
3. As a result, these peoples kids might just end up with better jobs and better paying jobs. Hence more income. A greater proportion of said people as a result might be in the "successful" segment of society.

Without a doubt, there are Jewish people who might be called greedy, and sociopathic. But the Jews have a monopoly on neither. Every culture has greedy sociopathic people. To blame every bad financial thing on the jews is ludicrous, not to mention simplistic.

Ok, there is my two cents.



posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 08:54 PM
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Just how much is US$700,000,000,000?

700,000,000,000/200,000,000 = 3500

If you guess that 200 million in the US are voting age.

If you take every person in the US you get about 2500....

I guess I have been suckered in by two posts...one from ATS and one by the Bob blog!!!!!

Existence precedes essence...

[edit on 30-9-2008 by whiteraven]



posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 08:54 PM
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Originally posted by Dinwiddy
Take he 700 billion and spread it equally over every citizen 18 yr old and above. After taxes that gives each person $227,000. That would give every graduating Hi School Senior a 4 yr college education, pay off the mortgage, buy a car, Take vacations, go out to dinner 5 times a week and many other lkuxuries. Plus it puts a huge tax back to the federal govt for Health and education.


If that is true...then this is treason, is it not??..or at least extortion?

Here is another source for that quote.


bob 2 hours ago 1 point bob 2 hours ago 1 point
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How much is $700,000,000,000? With a guess at about 200 million adults (over 18), that would be a check from Uncle Sam to each of us about $350,000. Figuring they would take taxes out of it that would still leave well over $250,000 for us to put back into the economy, Paying off our houses, sending a couple kids to college, taking a real vacation.

209.85.173.104...:QoP7fwPyQ9AJ:granitegeek.org/2008/09/29/how-much-is-700-billion/+how+much+is+700+billion+700+billion&hl=e n&gl=ca&strip=1

[edit on 30-9-2008 by whiteraven]



posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 08:58 PM
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Well..

Jews do hold significant control over the banking world..

I don't know if I would call it a conspiracy, so much as I would say perhaps they lean more towards these socialist tenancies?



posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 09:10 PM
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Ok here is Rothmans reason on not voting for the bill


“I think there are better ways to fix the economic problems caused by this Administration than this trickle-down Wall Street bailout program. The bill hints at, but does not make the necessary regulatory changes, fails to require direct relief for local banks and homeowners, and totally ignores the need to invest in infrastructure, energy and other economic stimulus endeavors that are so urgently needed to lift up our economy and our people.

“In addition to believing that this plan is not the best to solve the problems described by President Bush’s Treasury Secretary, I am highly skeptical of President Bush’s ‘sky-is-falling’ message coming just days before Congress goes out of session and mere weeks before a Presidential election. One has to wonder why the President, his Treasury Secretary, Federal Reserve Chairman, and Securities and Exchange Commission Chairman did not know of the alleged financial crisis for the past 7 ½ years. I am prepared to stay in Washington for as long as it takes to develop the right plan for our country. We should not be stampeded into approving this lemon of a Wall Street bailout.”


Ok this is a good excuse to me not to vote. Im actually surprised on him too because he is a HUGE Zionist supporter. Rothman gets my vote this year for doing an honorable thing and voting no. Although it wasnt for the right reasons its still good.

Ok so we have 1 of 100 Jews who voted more so I am incorrect in my statement but I am damn close. Not sure how Rothman snuck by me


I'll bite....why do you say "it wasnt for the right reasons?" Seems to me they were EXACTLY the right reasons to vote no! Perhaps you had a different criteria in mind?



posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 09:10 PM
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Why are you posting "other sources"??!?!?

I clearly presented the FACT that 700 Billion divided by 130 Million (taxpaying adults (again, why pay those who don't pay taxes?)) is nowhere near "hundreds of thousands"...

I know most calculator screens don't allow for that many zeros, but that is no excuse to repetitively throw out false numbers...



posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 09:18 PM
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Originally posted by mybigunit

Originally posted by caballero
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To be quite honest I have only recently looked into the jewish connection to everything so im still a novice with this info. So does that mean rothschild isnt really jewish just posing?


Correct. He uses the Jewish religion to mask himself. He funded Hitler who killed many Jews. So did JP Morgan and Rockefeller. These people arent Jews although they claim to be. They are the devil in disguise. But what do you do if you even mention anything Jewish you get labeled an anti semite or a bigot and that is how they want it. They dont want their motives questioned. The Jews just like the main stream Muslims have been hi jacked.


Rothschild is an old European Jewish name ??? How can that not "really be Jewish?"

Also, Bush's Grandfather and Kennedy's Dad also funded Hitler and neither of them were Jewish......Im just saying....

[edit on 9/30/08 by irishgrl]



posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 09:24 PM
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Originally posted by Lebowski achiever
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Ok.. Another one. Gerlach. Jewish is he not? Also voted No.



Jim Gerlach is NOT Jewish. Anyone can tell.
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posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 09:29 PM
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Sorry, I posted that as soon as I read the post on this thread, I then googled the post and I came up with a blog that had similar figures.....

then I read the rest of the thread saw your post...got my calc and found out that the bob blog and this thread had bad posts....I then edited my post...first one ....and stated I had been suckered by two posts until I calculated the figure.....and then of course read the rest of the thread!!! sort of a cool little lesson...

teaches me not to believe every post lol

back to the thread. I am intrigued by this thread although I must say that one of my best customers is from Israel and he laughs at the idea of the taxpayers paying this bailout...for what its worth!

PS I understand that the OP is not being anti semite.


[edit on 30-9-2008 by whiteraven]




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