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Martial Law Update: U.S. Soldiers on the move

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posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 05:41 AM
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IT is October 1st and the NeoCon government in America has set upon it own people a battle-hardened brigade fresh from Iraq.

The timing of this is suspiciously convenient given the Economic crisis and growing unrest in the US. The crisis was created apurpose and the deployment of troops within the homeland was just another part of this plane.

The Posse Commitatus Act has been violated by the Bush Administration and the people of the USA now have a Constitutional duty to perform.

Not many countries have the same rights to protect Freedom that America has. It is important that this once brave country does what they are Constitutionally Mandated to do and fix this thing. Martial Law is already in America, which is why I haven't traveled there in 7 years and wouldn't go for any amount of money in the past three.

Remember Americans, you can be Tortured and your Children Tortured sexually right in front of you if you are suspected of being a terrorist and you are being subjected to "enhanced interrogation techniques." This is why I don't travel to the USA.

Any one of you could become subject to this at any moment and no one would ever know what happened to you. You would just disappear and then you would be tortured until you die. Welcome to the USA.

Google: John Yoo Torture Memo. (sexual torture of children)
Google: Patriot Act 1 and 2 (Read what they can do to you)



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posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 05:56 AM
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Originally posted by runetang
yep, first thing i noticed were the helmets.

i was like wait a second, normal convoys around here do not have soldiers driving with helmets, they have caps on, like they wear around base. green caps at that.

i tried so hard to get pics! three times! when you're moving at that speed, a dinky camera phone just can't capture anything but a blur. ah well..

what id like to see is if by the end of the day anyone else who lives to my north and north west notices any such convoys of this nature. then we'd have a better indication of where they're actually headed.

about 30 minutes before i saw the convoy, i saw what looked to be some kind of combat patrol boat, it was on the bed of a giant truck with oversized load signs and blinkers, with a humvee following with an oversize load sign. i wonder if its coincidence?

[edit on 9/30/2008 by runetang]


so.. you were passing them doing 60mph FASTER than them?
couldn't you have just kept pace for a second?
or even going atiny bit slower or faster wouldnt cause much a blur.

go back in time and take pics plz.

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posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 06:04 AM
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Let me get this 1straight.

These fine men and women risked their lives all this time so that WE could spread democracy and FREEDOM in the world. check.

They fought so we could continue enjoying our freedoms. check.

Now they are asked to come home and ..... what? Keep us from enjoying those same freedoms?

Our men and women are not STUPID. They may be here and they may have orders but it will not last!!! This is their country and this is where they come from!!!
This is where their allegiance lies. I dont foresee them following orders too long.

Mark my words!



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 06:09 AM
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I dont foresee them following orders too long.


We don't even know what their orders really are yet. I think they are being put in place preemptively to quell an uprising that hasn't happened yet. I don't expect them to just start rounding people up out of the blue.

This could be an interesting week.



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 11:32 AM
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I'm new to this site but wanted to add that I saw two black, big helicopters flying over Merritt Island, FL this morning. I tried to ID them from pictures on the internet from my memory of them flying over but couldn't. They looked heavy and had big doors in the back like they could take in a small vehicle. They were not chinooks. I did think it was interesting as I live near Patrick Airforce Base and have never seen helicopters like this flying around.

I have no idea if it means anything at all, but I did think to myself, Hmmm, that's really weird - wonder what they are flying around for?



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 11:28 PM
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what state are you in?



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 11:56 PM
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well for now, this is all that is known about the US deployment at the moment:

www.armytimes.com...



The 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team has spent 35 of the last 60 months in Iraq patrolling in full battle rattle, helping restore essential services and escorting supply convoys.

Now they’re training for the same mission — with a twist — at home.

Beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the 1st BCT will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command, as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks.

It is not the first time an active-duty unit has been tapped to help at home. In August 2005, for example, when Hurricane Katrina unleashed hell in Mississippi and Louisiana, several active-duty units were pulled from various posts and mobilized to those areas.

But this new mission marks the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to NorthCom, a joint command established in 2002 to provide command and control for federal homeland defense efforts and coordinate defense support of civil authorities.

After 1st BCT finishes its dwell-time mission, expectations are that another, as yet unnamed, active-duty brigade will take over and that the mission will be a permanent one.

“Right now, the response force requirement will be an enduring mission. How the [Defense Department] chooses to source that and whether or not they continue to assign them to NorthCom, that could change in the future,” said Army Col. Louis Vogler, chief of NorthCom future operations. “Now, the plan is to assign a force every year.”

The command is at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado Springs, Colo., but the soldiers with 1st BCT, who returned in April after 15 months in Iraq, will operate out of their home post at Fort Stewart, Ga., where they’ll be able to go to school, spend time with their families and train for their new homeland mission as well as the counterinsurgency mission in the war zones.


oh and a correction was posted:



Correction:

A non-lethal crowd control package fielded to 1st Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division, described in the original version of this story, is intended for use on deployments to the war zone, not in the U.S., as previously stated.


[edit on 1-10-2008 by ats__fan039]

[edit on 2-10-2008 by ats__fan039]



posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 12:20 AM
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Before you start to worry, maybe you should look at this thread...Depending on where you saw the convoy, you may not have any reason to worry. The unit scheduled to be stationed at NORTHCOM was due to arrive today & you probably just saw them on the way there. There's even a link to an Army Times article reporting about this somewhere in that thread.



posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 12:51 AM
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You know what, TruthTellist, my old foe, I was going to blast your post....until I noticed your links. So I decided the prudent thing to do would be to read up on the subjects you cited, and I honestly have to say--while I don't agree with the majority of what you wrote--I at least have been informed on some very disturbing topics. For that, I thank you.



posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 12:57 AM
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After reading this along with similar threads, and with the increase in the police brutality (or at least the awareness of police brutality), it honestly wouldn't be too far-fetched to assume that the troops would round people up en masse. Anyone remember the mass arrest at the RNC?

These troops may not be willing to blatantly send people to FEMA camps or whatnot, but the people who would be doing the ordering are smarter than that. They know these men and women aren't robots, so the orders they get will most likely be inconspicuous.

That said, I don't think we have anything to worry about, yet. It'll definitely be interesting to see what they'll do and what orders they'll be given though, assuming they will be used while here in the good ol' US of A.



posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 01:58 AM
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Originally posted by dgtempe
Our men and women are not STUPID. They may be here and they may have orders but it will not last!!! This is their country and this is where they come from!!!
This is where their allegiance lies. I dont foresee them following orders too long.

Mark my words!


You are correct that they aren't stupid. But that doesn't mean they haven't been manipulated by their superiors and the media like many of our fellow citizens have been. I really hope you are right, and have a feeling that they would never do such things, you just never know when reality might completely sucker punch you.



posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 05:43 AM
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Originally posted by prevenge
so.. you were passing them doing 60mph FASTER than them?
couldn't you have just kept pace for a second?
or even going atiny bit slower or faster wouldnt cause much a blur.

go back in time and take pics plz.

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No no, i was travelling 60-65mph in the middle lane, they were in the right lane, travelling 50-55mph. I was passing them and paranoid that theyd notice if i slowed up suddenly, kept exact pace beside them, and snapped a pic of the driver. I bet he'd radio into the commander humvee and they'd call the cops on me or something wild maybe, so I thought. Or pull me over themselves.

This was a portion of the Veteran Brigade .. i just know it .. couldn't be anything else and was headed in the right direction. Most troops end up flying home into North Carolina, so this makes sense.

PS: they looked hardcore, big built jarhead types with cold straight looks on their faces. freshly shaven heads etc, from what i saw on the sides of the helmet.

[edit on 10/2/2008 by runetang]



posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 05:52 AM
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Large aircraft movement today and through the weekend in Phx on unconventional flight path, multiple sightings of jets, seems to me although I haven't looked from ground level that Phx airport has been used for combat aircraft in recent months.

7 years training in urban warfare in Iraq...

doesn't look good does it?



posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 05:55 AM
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Past week there has been increased helicopter traffic during the night, or early morning, I just heard 2 heading southwest over my house.

Related? possibly, maybe just the traffic guys.

Denver, Co.



posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 06:17 AM
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Originally posted by runetang
PS: they looked hardcore, big built jarhead types with cold straight looks on their faces. freshly shaven heads etc, from what i saw on the sides of the helmet.


Most military men are built the same way due to the standards they have to adhere to which includes their weight and hair cuts. This is why they all have their hair cut really close on the sides. Can't say I have seen anyone who has been in the military long enough to finish basic and AIT (or the equivalent for the rest of the branches) with a shaved head except for the few who are balding on top and just shave it all so it matches and isn't as noticeable.

Have you ever ridden in one of those hulking vehicles? It is not a very comfy ride and you are lucky if you can hear the person next to you over the noise, thus they don't talk much. There is no radio to listen to music, so pretty much all you hear is the drone of the tires and the wind. Pretty boring really, so what you describe as a cold straight look is most likely a bored "When will this ride be over? My rear is going numb and I can't hear a darn thing" look.

As for them being in full gear including their weapons, the most likely reason is that they are on their way to another base for training of some sort and have their weapons with them for the training. Have to wear your helmet if you are carrying around your weapon as far as I am aware. That would be my guess anyway.



posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 06:24 AM
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Originally posted by Lebowski achiever
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Scary stuff. That they were all armed to the teeth does worry me to say the least.


Seriously, is there any good reason that they need to be traveling armed within the United States borders? Is this common practice?



posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 06:35 AM
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The paranoia on this site sometimes makes me laugh. I understand the country is NOT doing well and we have a hole to climb out of but marshall law...not happening.

What you did see I would bet is a national guard/reserve company or possible battalion on maneuvers to a training base/location getting ready for deployment to Iraq or Afghanistan...or coming home from one. 98% of the time active duty soldiers don't convoy outside their duty station unless the firing ranges or impact areas for them are not on the immediate base...example: Ft. Mcclellan, Alabama. Almost everyday the people of Anniston would see 10 vehicle convoys going from main post to the ranges about 5-6 miles away. But NG's and Reserve convoy like this ALL THE TIME...you just happen to see them in full train up..thats all.

I work in law enforcement right outside Atlanta, hence one of the most populated cities in America and IF...IF marshall law were to ever be implimented you can bet your paranoid little behind that we as law enforcement would know its coming. Since most of you believe in this "police state" thing anyway...But I can confirm this, NOTHING to worry about at this point!!!



posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 07:44 AM
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Originally posted by rcwj75
.. but marshall law...not happening.

.... NOTHING to worry about at this point!!!


You must not have heard that the Posse Commitatus Act was violated for the first time in American history on October the First - Yesterday.

America's own Congress is operating under Martial Law.

Now a brigade has been deployed against the People of the US - A brigade specifically trained in "crowd control" and "non-lethal weapons" which which they have been equipped.

They have the microwave guns we've all heard so much about and tasers and shotguns that fire the new taser bolt.... Just in time for the biggest economic disaster in history, and under the most hated president ever with congress with a9 percent approval.

Up here in Canada, we are all watching with baited breath to see what becomes of those poor Americans. We feel really bad for what is happening to you.



posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 08:10 AM
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...Up here in Canada, we are all watching with baited breath to see what becomes of those poor Americans. We feel really bad for what is happening to you.


Christmas sales will be late this year??


Guys, lighten up, that's not going to happen, and for as much as you write it, deep down you know it's not gonna to happen.



posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 08:20 AM
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"It" already has happened. Troops were deployed yesterday and Congress is actually and in reality under martial law. This happened.

You can't make it unhappen by pretending it didn't happen.

Our media covered what happened to all those poor innocent people at the DNC and then the RNC. It was just awful seeing what has become of
America as of late. The people are being treated as the enemy.

Free Speech Zones? Already happened.

[edit on 2-10-2008 by TruthTellist]



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