Conspiracy - Overseas $$ donations to POTUS campaign, page 1
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Topic started on 30-9-2008 @ 06:02 AM by FlyersFan
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Here’s the fact – US Law says that foreigners can not contribute to the campaigns of those running for POTUS.

Here’s the conspiracy (and illegal activities) – It is estimated that at least 200 million dollars has been donated to the Obama campaign by overseas donors (NOT US citizens living abroad).

At this point, the FEC has compiled a separate database containing more than 11,500 contributions totaling $33.8 million. More than 520 listed their “state” as Iran. Another 63 listed it as the United Kingdom. Others listed include Abu Dhabi, Addis Ababa, Beijing, Fallujah, Florence, Italy, France, North Korea. Nigeria itself claims to have donated $900,000 to Obama’s campaign.

The Wall Street Journal reported that donors from the Gaza Strip had given more than $33,000 to the Obama campaign. This came through bulk purchases of T-shirts they had shipped to Gaza. This is a sale of goods, but it is donation money as well.

Both John MCCain and Hillary Clinton required proof of citizenship from people donating online. Obama did not.

When Obama comes out and claims that most of his donations are from people giving $20.00 – that’s a lie covering illegal activities.


reply posted on 30-9-2008 @ 08:12 AM by FlyersFan
Originally posted by Gatordone
Everyones favorite citizen of the world....


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For a while his official website said 'UNFORTUNATELY only US citizens can vote for the US POTUS'

Taken exactly as it’s worded - according to Obama, it's UNFORTUNATE that foreigners can't pick our POTUS. He sounded almost apologetic. Which could partially explain why the illegal gain of foreign $$$ toward his POTUS run – (he sort of invited it) and the conspiracy of a cover up afterwards.



reply posted on 1-10-2008 @ 10:19 AM by sos37
Originally posted by Karlhungis
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Maybe people are just finally fed up with topics like this? One can hope.


Actually, if this can be proven, it would be cause for prosecution of someone on the Obama campaign if not Obama himself. The laws are not put into place to be broken or shrugged off, and if he's receiving money from foreign interests who have ties to who knows what, then it's a clear violation of election law.

Until recently, the Obama Web site allowed a contributor to select the country where he resided from the entire membership of the United Nations, including such friendly places as North Korea and the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Source was the original source quoted by the OP in the first post.

Unlike McCain’s or Sen. Hillary Clinton’s online donation pages, the Obama site did not ask for proof of citizenship until just recently. Clinton’s presidential campaign required U.S. citizens living abroad to actually fax a copy of their passport before a donation would be accepted.


I wonder whom Obama would throw under the bus if the FEC called for a full investigation of all foreign donations?



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reply posted on 2-10-2008 @ 11:17 AM by jam321
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Cause it could lead to corruption in his administration if the people that allowed and knew this was going on were to join him in Washington. Therefore distracting him from the real issues while confronting a scandal.

I think everybody here know Obama isn't directly involved. But there do seem to be truth that there were problems the way he was collecting donations online. And if the law was broken it does deserve to called to the people's attention and investigated.



reply posted on 2-10-2008 @ 11:42 AM by Grafilthy
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Cause it could lead to corruption in his administration if the people that allowed and knew this was going on were to join him in Washington. Therefore distracting him from the real issues while confronting a scandal.

Jam!

Not to stray too far off topic......but, was it not the current Decider in Chief who brought half of Texas to the White House with him? Now THERE is some corruption to worry about.

As far as contributions....

The only controversy has to do with whoever has the bigger war-chest. The loser will always try to make this an issue. Obama has gotten the majority of his money from small contributions.

source

Q:

What is the average size of Obama's contributions and what is the average size of McCain's contributions?

A:

We can't calculate a precise average for either candidate, but we can say that persons giving less than $200 account for 47 percent of Obama's donations and 26 percent of McCain's.
As of July 14, Obama’s campaign has raised a total of $287,397,945, according to the Center for Responsive Politics, a nonprofit, nonpartisan research group that keeps track of money in U.S. politics. McCain’s campaign has raised a total of $119,594,596.


McCain has only gotten about a third of the support.....hence, the attempt at making this an issue.


reply posted on 2-10-2008 @ 12:19 PM by Grafilthy
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OK.


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They must be liars then. Sorry to waste everyone's time with facts.


reply posted on 2-10-2008 @ 12:41 PM by Seeker Mom
www.spectator.org... is another story I read about this issue today.

This quote caught my attention:


An auditor for the Federal Election Commission is attempting to have his bosses seek a formal investigation into the collection by the Obama for President campaign of more than $200 million in potentially illegal political donations, including millions of dollars of illegal, foreign donations, and has sought a request for assistance from the Department of Justice or Federal Bureau of Investigation. But the analyst's requests have largely been ignored."I can't get anyone to move. I believe we are looking at a hijacking of our political system that makes the Clinton and Gore fundraising scandals pale in comparison. And no one here wants to touch it."


Nope, no one will touch it. That Kool-aid sure is potent. No one can criticize 'the one' in any way, shape, or form. Can you imagine a president the people cannot criticize? Not me.


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