Originally posted by junglejake
Apparently, dreamrebel, if they're rich AND Jewish, they must have an alterior motive.

And colonel: What does that mean?

The current Jews who claim to be Jews are not the real Jews and do not fit any description of Jews I've read in the Bible.

Is that where the old saying of "you wouldn't know a Jew, even if one hit you in the head" came from Colonel?



seekerof

[Edited on 23-3-2004 by Seekerof]

So judaism can't be a religion? It can only be a race? Color has to take precedence over matters of faith?

In that case bust out your voodoo doll. Everyone knows that only black people do that crazy voodoo stuff.

stupid

Then what would make a Jew a real Jew? I was under the impression that it was a religion first, and a race second. And if your mother practiced that religion, then you are a Jew by race. So how are they not real Jews?

hey colonel;
thats great i agree with you !!!!!
white or black
orthodox or unorthodox....red yellow...gray...LOL...baptist.mormon.hasidic.hindu.buddhist.zorastrian...it doesnt matter

i say why point out any creed....lets just get down to the ELITISTS:

Originally posted by junglejake
Then what would make a Jew a real Jew?

Anyone who can trace their lineage back to one of the 12 Tribes of Israel. Simple enough.

Originally posted by Seekerof
Is that where the old saying of "you wouldn't know a Jew, even if one hit you in the head" came from Colonel?



seekerof

[Edited on 23-3-2004 by Seekerof]

YOu don't know how true you are on that score.

Originally posted by Colonel

Originally posted by junglejake
Then what would make a Jew a real Jew?

Anyone who can trace their lineage back to one of the 12 Tribes of Israel. Simple enough.

Huh. That's interesting. So how would you do that? If your last name is Cohen, you're out, though, because the Cohens were the 13th tribe who were supposed to become the Jewish priests (yes, priests, not rabbis). Wouldn't a last name of one of the tribes be fairly good evidence, or does someone need to show you their family tree to be a Jew?

Originally posted by Dreamstone
So judaism can't be a religion? It can only be a race? Color has to take precedence over matters of faith?

In that case bust out your voodoo doll. Everyone knows that only black people do that crazy voodoo stuff.

stupid

Look, even the Bible prophesiczed that the ones that claim they are Jews are't really Jews.

Originally posted by junglejake

Originally posted by Colonel

Originally posted by junglejake
Then what would make a Jew a real Jew?

Anyone who can trace their lineage back to one of the 12 Tribes of Israel. Simple enough.

Huh. That's interesting. So how would you do that? If your last name is Cohen, you're out, though, because the Cohens were the 13th tribe who were supposed to become the Jewish priests (yes, priests, not rabbis). Wouldn't a last name of one of the tribes be fairly good evidence, or does someone need to show you their family tree to be a Jew?

You would have to go to the Bible and trace the families and go through the prophecies.

Look, even the Bible prophesiczed that the ones that claim they are Jews are't really Jews.

And everybody knows if its in the bible it HAS to be true......LOL

Originally posted by Colonel
Look, even the Bible prophesiczed that the ones that claim they are Jews are't really Jews.

Ok, you need to back that one up, because I don't remember reading that...Scriptual quote, please

Originally posted by Colonel

You would have to go to the Bible and trace the families and go through the prophecies.

How are the prophecies related to someone being a Jew?

And what are Jews of today, if they're not Jews? I think we need to come up with a new name for them to take care of some of this confusion.

Originally posted by junglejake

Originally posted by Colonel

You would have to go to the Bible and trace the families and go through the prophecies.

How are the prophecies related to someone being a Jew?

And what are Jews of today, if they're not Jews? I think we need to come up with a new name for them to take care of some of this confusion.

Here is the prphecy God gave to the Isrealites (Jews) for disobeying.

Deuteronomy 28

64 Then the LORD will scatter you among all nations, from one end of the earth to the other. There you will worship other gods-gods of wood and stone, which neither you nor your fathers have known. 65 Among those nations you will find no repose, no resting place for the sole of your foot. There the LORD will give you an anxious mind, eyes weary with longing, and a despairing heart. 66 You will live in constant suspense, filled with dread both night and day, never sure of your life. 67 In the morning you will say, "If only it were evening!" and in the evening, "If only it were morning!"-because of the terror that will fill your hearts and the sights that your eyes will see. 68 The LORD will send you back in ships to Egypt on a journey I said you should never make again. There you will offer yourselves for sale to your enemies as male and female slaves, but no one will buy you (buy you out for ransom).


Now, you just have to look at what peoples are like that and figure it out. What pewople do you know that were taken away as slaves on ship? The current day Jews? Ya think?

i dont have a bible handy but i think i know what colonel is talkin about

There are those who claim to be jews but have no faith in there religion...

this is getting away from the original posting though

once again ...it doesnt matter what there creed or race is though ....does it
either you think theres a new world order being set up by elitists or you dont

Originally posted by junglejake
And what are Jews of today, if they're not Jews? I think we need to come up with a new name for them to take care of some of this confusion.

The jews today? This is what Jesus said about them:

Revelation 2
8"To the angel of the church in Smyrna write:
These are the words of him who is the First and the Last, who died and came to life again. 9I know your afflictions and your poverty-yet you are rich! I know the slander of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan. 10Do not be afraid of what you are about to suffer. I tell you, the devil will put some of you in prison to test you, and you will suffer persecution...

Who do you think he was talking to? Are the current Jews constantly in prison?

Now, you just have to look at what peoples are like that and figure it out. What pewople do you know that were taken away as slaves on ship? The current day Jews? Ya think?

My people were brought over as slaves on a ship...... But they were scots and Irish does that mean we are the REAL Jews? That my Grandmother and Grandpa that fled hitler for being Jewish shouldnt have bothered? I guess they should have told him hey your looking for and Irishman

Originally posted by watcheroftheskies
i dont have a bible handy but i think i know what colonel is talkin about

There are those who claim to be jews but have no faith in there religion...

this is getting away from the original posting though

once again ...it doesnt matter what there creed or race is though ....does it
either you think theres a new world order being set up by elitists or you dont

No, I didn't day that.

Some members of the Illuminati (The Rothschilds for example) are of Jewish descent, but not all. For example, the Queen of England (whose family is considered to be one of the 13 'Illuminati families') is actually head of the Church of England.

Originally posted by Amuk

Now, you just have to look at what peoples are like that and figure it out. What pewople do you know that were taken away as slaves on ship? The current day Jews? Ya think?

My people were brought over as slaves on a ship...... But they were scots and Irish does that mean we are the REAL Jews? That my Grandmother and Grandpa that fled hitler for being Jewish shouldnt have bothered? I guess they should have told him hey your looking for and Irishman

There is no way you can equate a few thousand Irish or Scots to MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS, Amuk. Sorry.