I cant believe the charades I saw today on the news. The Democrats stood up and blamed the Republicans for not passing this bailout bill like children in a food fight. The Dems have the majority in both houses, the Dems do not need the GOP to pass this bill, but they have taken this time to be partisian while we Americans hurt. Congress is Broken, we must put a stop to these incompetent people ruining our lives for their pleasure. Nancy Pelosi has failed everyone....... her websites our down, all three of them because everyone knows who is a fault here. Congress is willing to let a major sell off of wall street for what they think will be thier ticket to blaming each other. America stand up - I cant believe after all we have been thru we will let a few petty Dems, and Repblicans destroy our goverment... What can we do? Does anyone have any idea's? We need grassroot solutions, if we need to walk on washingington then lets do it. Does anyone have any good bipartisian solutions of dealing with this problem? Please Help

Don't Panic
This actually needs to happen. Yes It needs to happen. It's called a market correction. I promise, new banks will pop up to take the place of the ones that fail and they will know better than to pull the same irresponsible stunts. Think back, we learned this in kindergarten. If you touch a hot stove it will burn you and you won't do it again.

Keep in mind Ye with the pointy finger, teh populace has been screaming for Congress to NOT pass this bill. Ultimately, did not Congress follwo the will of the People as it is supposed to? Take a snapshot. This may be one of the only times in history that Congress actually follows the will of the People. Fleeting though it is likely to be...

Forget partisanship; it's an illusion anyway - it's pro wrestling, scripted and rehearsed. They 'make' and 'break' heroes as the need arises, don't buy into it.

While we were focused on the travesty of the wealth and power consolidation, the Fed pumped $630 billion into the system - sans vote (it's their "right") thank you 16th fraudulent ammendment. They appropriated another trillion in defense spending as well.

Can't you see that this is theater? Congress is not broken - it barely exists at all.

We need to restore a TRUE congress of the PEOPLE of the Unites States of America - and purposefully, with malice of forethought and extreme prejudice - EXCLUDE corporate influences in government. The MARKET MUST BE FREE if it is to serve the people.

We need to issue and control our own currency and REJECT the central banking model outright.

We need to OUTLAW FRACTIONAL RESERVE LENDING and private ownership of the legal tender of our country.

Forget the personalities, their all meat puppets, looking after themselves and their own agendas. If we could just render the trans-national corporations voiceless, we would all be better off.

We need to stay strong here.

Left to its own devices, the market will fix itself. We don't need government to take control and ruin this further. Government cannot manage and successfully handle anything, so the last thing we need to do is hand our financial markets over to them. This bail out, in any form it may resurface in, must continually be shut down.

It's not going to be easy, but we have to do it. This will work itself out. It always does.

Originally posted by nyk537
We need to stay strong here.

Left to its own devices, the market will fix itself. We don't need government to take control and ruin this further. Government cannot manage and successfully handle anything, so the last thing we need to do is hand our financial markets over to them. This bail out, in any form it may resurface in, must continually be shut down.

It's not going to be easy, but we have to do it. This will work itself out. It always does.

Damn straight! The market is smarter than all of them put together. It is their intense obsession with 'manipulating' that made this opening for parasitism in the first place. Just pluck off the leeches and let the wound heal itself.

Originally posted by Maxmars
Just pluck off the leeches and let the wound heal itself.

You got it!

I've said since the beginning the only proposal I would ever accept in this mess would be one that included the resignations of Frank, Dodd, Paulson and the lot of them.

For what reason are we supposed to believe that the same people who created this mess are capable of fixing it???

Madness.

Not to derail teh thread, but... I checked the first two Pelosi sites on Google for the search "Nancy Pelosi website." One for house.gov, and the other for speaker.house. Neither will open.

Any computer geek know why that would happen? Is it just because there is a lot of traffic to the sight.

I do not think they are "down" because you should still be able to get them in that case, right?

Oh, and both sides are blaming the other. It's a political ploy in my opinion. So that way if the economy tanks both sides can say- hey, we wanted to vote for the bailout, but it was the other side's fault that it didn't pass.

That's right.

Official word is that 2/3 of republicans and about 40% of democrats voted against this.

Of course the democrats could have passed this without them, but they won't.

They don't want to shoulder the blame for the mess it will cause.

It's possible that they thought it had the votes to pass so individually they voted against it to hedge their bet. If it passes and thngs stbilize, no harm no foul. They can say they voted against it becasue that was the voter sentiment. Buit if it passed and the economy tanks they can say, 'I didn't vote for it, don't blame me'. Unfortunately, too many people had the same idea.

I wouldn't deny there was probably some of that. I would say a lot more democrats had that mentality than republicans though.

The democrats are gearing up for what they believe to be a big election year. They don't want to end up being solely responsible for the catastrophe that this bail out would be.

They want to keep their jobs.

A lot of the house republicans voted against this because they fundamentally disagree with it. That's why they have their own plan proposed that relies on free market solutions.

Yes because the Democrats thought that the Republicans will vote in majority.

But it was a political ploy to get now the chance to make the bill of their own.

They are all nothing more than corrupted morons.

And guess what, they will have a bill and they will pass that bill and at the end they careless what the American people wants, but what they can get out of it.

Originally posted by centurion1211
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But something amazing happened and even some of the dems (along with many Republicans) actually listened to their constituents and voted that way.


Imagine that!

Keep calling the local office of your Reps and Senators and tell them your against it......Email them.....

I like seeing how many of these people are actually DOING they're jobs....
Congress is NOT broken they are actually listening to the people who they represent for a change......its AMAZING to watch....

[edit on 29-9-2008 by theRiverGoddess]

I invite everyone to visit my thread in the "NWO" channel. It deals with the notation i made about the Declaration of Independence.

Focus on the segment I highlighted and tell me what you think.