Denver Cops Get T-Shirts That Mock DNC Protesters!

Originally posted by DimensionalDetective
These gestapo goons are now BOASTING and advertising proudly the FASCISM and violation of the constitution they committed?

What part of the constitution and the law did the police allegedly violate?

Or are you talking about the 'protesters' that ran amuk destroying private property?

Originally posted by RRconservative
Freedom of Speech works both ways!

Exactly. It may be in poor taste, but they have a CONSTITUTIONAL right to speak their minds. Everyone does. Right Dimensional Detective??

Originally posted by jimmyjackblack
I'm really getting sick of the disinfo trolls, mods, can you do anything about these people? They never do anything to contribute anything worth while, ... .

People who disagree with liberal-facism are disinfo trolls eh? :shk:

Freedom is a beautiful thing - for EVERYONE.



[edit on 9/30/2008 by FlyersFan]

That's great. That is SOOOOO FUNNY!

Hey guys, I'm going to put a new shirt on CafePress if anyone wants to order it:

*snip*

I'm sure they'll get a kick out of that one too. You know ... it's all in good humor.



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[edit on 9/30/2008 by maria_stardust]

reply to post by FlyersFan


Hmm, how about the right to PEACEFUL assembly and protest? I guess that little part of the constitution didn't matter to these jack booted thugs. But then of course there's folks like yourself and others who make up fairy tales about these people "running amok and destroying property", or "being drunk or high" to try and twist things into justification of infringing upon their contstitutional rights. What a joke.

Simple fact is everyone is to blame and it starts from the top and trickles down. How can people NOT protest when the elite at the top have raped, robbed, pillaged and abused us all for their own financial prosperity.

I break my back and can barely live and feed my children. If it was up to me, I would protest in violant fashion and everyone would be armed because unforunately, these protests go nowhere.This is why I personally don't waste my time and nobody else should.Words w/out actions are useless.

We as citizens are trying to just survive the injustice we have been served and are expected to swallow.Why aren't law enforcement arresting the pigs(pigs meaning swine of a person, not cop) who are violating the laws that THEY themselves have made?

Why don't cops try arresting the 20 plus million illegal immigrants who are here ILLEGALLY? This society and it's laws are such a pathetic, hypocritical, double standard of a joke.

I personally say "DON"T ever obey a single, self serving mand made law.Violate any unreasonable law as long as it doesn't pose a threat to our fellow humans". Most laws are in place to manipulate other laws all for the prosoerity of the CORPORATE ENTITY" financial gain.Joe Schmoe needs a multibillion dollar yacht/vacation house he will rarely use while my kids starve. Screw the corporation and the punks protecting this corrupt agenda. I personally don't need or want police or any law enforcing figures and have no problem defending my family or helping to defend another's family.

I have stated this once before and it was removed. The only people who NEED police are the WEAK and USELESS and the corrupt weak and usless agencies governing OUR MONEY.

You want us to police ourselves? It WILL happen because this way of corruption and abuse will NOT sustain itself forever and when it fails, only the strong will survive. Back to basics and simplicity. All the problems on this planet are created because man thinks he is so bright. All of what man has created is what's destroying this NATURAL planet.All of man's intelligence yet not a single shred of COMMON SENSE. We as a species(so evolved) yet we're dumber than a bag of bricks.

We do not deserve what God has given us and he will take it back. Just be prepaared and don't whine and cry when the All Mighty Humbling Hand of GOD is upon your life. Deal with it like the big tough men/women you portray to present yourelves as. This goes for all humans, Not just certain agencies.Enjoy and enbrace the unfortunate outcome of what our species has created.

[edit on 30-9-2008 by 19DCW71]

reply to post by DimensionalDetective

People need to remember, police are made up of regular American citizens, most of us , including the police, do find these wacko nut job protectors complete idiots. So whats the big deal? Its not like this is a protest for civil rights, these idiots (check them on you tube) were screaming anarchy, and purposely ran into the cops to start a fight. So they get what they deserve, a bonk on the head, and a tee shirt parody.

I am gonna have to go with the cops on this one. It may be in poor taste, but they do have the right to free speech. If we take that right away from them we are just as much to blame for fascism as they are.

Unfortunately free speech works both ways. If we deny them their right to free speech are we not as guilty as those that wish to create "free speech zones"?

Yes it is in poor taste, yes it is disturbing, but if we deny them their rights we are as wrong as those who wish to deny us of ours.

reply to post by whatukno


You know, I don't think they should be DENIED the right to print the shirts, but I do think it epitomizes what utter contempt they have for the civilian population, and why we have such a rising problem of inequality of rights in this nation. Do they have a right to free speech, just as those who's right's they violated? Sure! But it doesn't seem to work both ways---Not even close. Imagine if citizens printed up "I get up early to beat the heck outta thug cops", or, "I will forcefully launch citizen's arrests on thug cops who infringe upon my constitutional rights" and wore them out in public. How would that be recepted?

My problem is not with their RIGHT to make them, my problem is with the events that created the idea for them. Boasting about Police State crushing of dissent among the populace, epitomizes what a severely wrong turn this nation as a whole is turning, and these guys are happily boasting about it.

reply to post by DimensionalDetective

You know, I don't think they should be DENIED the right to print the shirts, but I do think it epitomizes what utter contempt they have for the civilian population, and why we have such a rising problem of inequality of rights in this nation.

In this nation unfortunately you have to fight for your rights. They don't come freely. If and when the police violate your rights, one must lawyer up, (usually with the ACLU) and sue to protect those rights and hold those accountable.

Do they have a right to free speech, just as those who's rights they violated? Sure! But it doesn't seem to work both ways---Not even close.

It does, money talks and bull walks. It's an old saying but it works. They violate a citizens right to free speech sue them for the wrongdoing. Thats the way this system is worked. Thats how to defeat them and to ensure that your rights are protected. They aren't automatically protected. You have to fight them on their own terms and in the right way to keep your rights.

Imagine if citizens printed up "I get up early to beat the heck outta thug cops", or, "I will forcefully launch citizen's arrests on thug cops who infringe upon my constitutional rights" and wore them out in public. How would that be recepted?

Ask gangsta rap artists that make songs about shooting cops.

My problem is not with their RIGHT to make them, my problem is with the events that created the idea for them. Boasting about Police State crushing of dissent among the populace, epitomizes what a severely wrong turn this nation as a whole is turning, and these guys are happily boasting about it.

Then those whose rights they violated need lawyer up, take them to court, sue them for infringement, use those shirts against them, and show them that they are wrong for violating the constitutional rights of the citizenry.

It's a system, if you want your rights protected you have to fight to keep those rights, that means to take those that would take away your rights to court, backed by lawyers from the ACLU and sue for damages. Hit them where it really hurts, in the wallet. Thats how you show them that you won't take the crap they decide to dish out.

Some people have gotten quite rich off of doing things the right way, some people have been awarded major amounts of money due to the fact that these "police officers" have violated their constitutional rights. But the truth is, your rights are not automatic. You have to fight for them.

Those protesters that were beaten at the DNC should lawyer up and sue the individual police officers and the city of Denver for the violation of their constitutional rights. If they don't, few will care. The police have their rights, they know this, they have the right to free speech, watch what happens if someone puts the hurt on a police officer for wearing a T shirt that spouts their contempt for our rights and see what happens.

Justice is not automatic, those that were beaten at the convention for protesting need to sue the city, the state, the individual officers involved to protect their rights. Thats the way this works unfortunately. Once the suit is done you will see those officers that were involved publicly disciplined for their actions and perhaps even fired. But it won't happen by simply whining about it.

reply to post by rcwj75


Although I completely understand what you are saying here in trying to represent the police officer side of things, you completely through out ALL respect with you line about where you could get a shirt.

This alone shows your mentality as well. That shirt is tactless and displays an arrogance that is truly threatoning to the freedom that this country is losing more and more. I am seeing more and more brutality cases and cases where officers fix their reports to reflect what THEY want them to. Only to have real evidence come forth to show that they are full of s**t and blatantly lying on an official document.

You see, it swings both ways.

The great thing is that I love how you try to belittle everyone who does indeed protest as being stupid kids that have no clue about life and still live with their parents.

The last time I looked I thought I was raising my own family in my own home with 3 hard earned degrees. All 3 gotten AFTER I left home (at age 15, legally.) You see, you like to complain about how everyone who is a protestor is such and such yet you display your own ignorance of your blinded view of things.

You need to release your anger filled view of life and start to evaluate where you want to go because right now I see you headed for this 'police state' with open arms. Because you probably think that it would be a blessing and one that would welcome you with open arms. That is until one of yours is taken away or beaten down. Then maybe you might realize that there is indeed this arrogance within the police forces of this country. Not all, most likely only a few, but indeed it is there.

reply to post by oconnection


Bwaaa haa haa. Love the video; there's only one problem...they forgot to show the "peaceful" protesters tipping over trashcans, breaking storefront windows, smashing in police and other vehicles, etc. I saw the law-breaking first-hand. The sad part is, yes, innocent people get implicated and arrested because those that choose to ignore the law hide themselves amongst others. I really am surprised that so many here find it acceptable to break the law in the name of free speech. Yet those same people would deny my second amendment rights with "common sense" laws, the very rights which will enable me to protect all my other rights when the PTB decide it is time to take them away.

reply to post by chise61


Clearly there is a misunderstanding. I think the shirts are rather tasteless myself, a little funny, but nonetheless tasteless. I must, as it is my civic duty, clarify the "protect and serve" motto of the police. There are numerous court cases where it has been held that the police force does not have the duty to protect citizens of the United States; If they do so it is out of the goodness of their hearts. Only those that are in police custody or "special friends" of the police (i.e. informant) must receive their protection. As for serving...they only serve the executive branch, whose duty it is to uphold the laws that are made by the legislative branch. While they do serve and protect, it's not me, and it's not you either, but whatever helps you sleep peacefully at night. Sleep tight knowing that the police are protecting you from the bad guys.

Originally posted by whatukno
It may be in poor taste, but they do have the right to free speech.

Yeah, yeah. Everyone has rights and everyone is infrigning upon other's rights.

Perfect example: see my above post.

Though my post was clearly satire directed at the police officers, my post was edited to remove the image of the cross hairs train on a cartoon police officer with the words "I kill cops" below the image.

This image was obviously offensive to someone on this site, thus is had to be taken down.

But, in this case you kind of hit a dead end. When it's the police that are offending you ... who do you turn to see justice done? Answer is ... there is none.

All the time I hear about kids being sent home from school for wearing shirts with expressions of anti-war themes.

Yes, the shirt I made was in very poor taste, as was the officer's, but I made my shirt to prove a point. And as you can see, my point was made when it was removed.

Who is suppose to remove the police officer's shirts so that I am not offended?

[edit on 30-9-2008 by tyranny22]

I find this hilarious, I would buy one of those shirts just for the hell of it.
Though, I still prefer the 'civil disobedience is still disobedience' shirt from Maddox.

Stop being crybabies and suck it up, people wear offensive clothing all the time, why should the Denver police be referred to as 'Gestapo' for doing the same?

If members of protest group who harbored anti-police opinions wore t-shirts that said "Shoot A Cop For Jesus" in public places, do you think they would draw equal criticism? More? Less?

reply to post by SweetRevenge

Stop being crybabies and suck it up, people wear offensive clothing all the time, why should the Denver police be referred to as 'Gestapo' for doing the same?

Because my tax dollars pay their salary. When they pay mine, they can make me take off my...."I sleep with cops wives" shirt.

I'm not saying LE hasn't done shady stuff to further their agenda...but then that makes BOTH sides guilty of it. So in the end neither side is better then the other.

Hmm.......to my mind, the man who has been proclaimed trustworthy to hold a gun or a baton, or throw a can of tear gas has a WHOLE HELL of a lot more responsibility than just your average tax paying joe to conduct him/herself in a responsible, law abiding manner, on or off the job.

Unfortunately, that's often not the case.

I used to go drinking at a bar a couple blocks from my house. On the nights I went, the place was packed with off duty cops getting sh*t drunk and going out back to get high. And do you think they ever once got in trouble? I sat right next to them while they bragged about how sh*tfaced they were last week and got pulled over but were allowed to continue driving home even though they could barely see.

I used to work with a woman whose husband was a cop in a local municipality. She would tell story after story about how he pulled people over and confiscated their stash (of whatever, from pot to blow to alcohol to crack) and take it home and they would do it all up together at home.
Sorry, there's no excuse.

But.........I digress.

I guess to some of you, police can never do any wrong.

Originally posted by Grafilthy
reply to post by SweetRevenge

 

Stop being crybabies and suck it up, people wear offensive clothing all the time, why should the Denver police be referred to as 'Gestapo' for doing the same?

Because my tax dollars pay their salary. When they pay mine, they can make me take off my...."I sleep with cops wives" shirt.

Exactly. It's not a matter of 'freedom of speech' or 'constitutional rights' when it comes to shirts like this for the police force. They are supposed to be here to 'protect and serve' not belittle and brag about brutal tactics.

The people standing up for this seem to have a) never seen the video with the prosecutor who kept getting shot with rubber bullets and then the police officers were laughing "see that lady in the red dress get shot, that was great" and a bunch of laughing and huahs! from the other militaristic cops; b) you simply don't care and want a police state.

You see, I don't think all cops are bad. I like to believe that the majority of officers are still pretty good people at heart. I also don't think that all protestors are bad. Yes, there are some bad eggs in both. Also, from my own personal experience, there are many 'government' plants in those protestor groups that are there to specifically incite aggression. I regretfully have been privvy to this in the past. For anyone who thinks otherwise you are simply ignorant and have a blind eye towards what politics and government are willing to do to maintain power and to silence the voices of the people.

This is a slap in the face of the people that pay these officers' salaries. It's a mockery of what they are truly meant to stand for.

Originally posted by DimensionalDetective
how about the right to PEACEFUL assembly and protest?

Destroying property and protesting in places that it is illegal to do so will get a person arrested. That's not against the Constitution. That's expecting people to follow the law.

But then of course there's folks like yourself and others who make up fairy tales ...

'folks like yourself' ... bah! You have no clue who I am.

AND no one is making up things.
Fact is - those people broke the law. They deserved to be arrested.
Fact is - the cops have a right to wear things even if they are in poor taste.

Looks like YOU are the one making up fairy tales - against the cops.

Originally posted by SweetRevenge
Stop being crybabies and suck it up, people wear offensive clothing all the time, why should the Denver police be referred to as 'Gestapo' for doing the same?

Because they actually are abusing their power and they actually are getting away with it. The shirt is just a symbolic reminder of that.