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reply posted on 28-9-2008 @ 09:58 PM by MJND1990
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Originally posted by thrashee
Originally posted by MJND1990
Ok EVERY thread wasn't quite accurate. EVERY thread I've noticed you in. Hows that. Oh and can we PLEASE get back on-topic. BTW I'm not all against
you. I agree with you on the train car thread.
Hey, I'm actually not against you either. I was using sarcasm for the folks who love to throw out the "dis-info" agent response whenever you
disagree with them. Sorry, wasn't personal
OK its cool. I guess sarcasm doesn't translate well over the internet. lol. Yea Ill even admit the train car thing was crazy. That's like saying "A
black Suburban drove up my street today, it was the FBI plotting to assassinate me!"  Yes it could've been but it's highly unlikely. Anyway back
to the topic at hand...
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reply posted on 28-9-2008 @ 10:00 PM by MJND1990
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Originally posted by N.B.A.Y.S.O.H
CONGRESS DECLARES MARTIAL LAW 9/27 DURING ECONOMY DEBATE
This dude seems to think otherwise.
Its martial law for CONGRESS. Meaning Stay til the deal is done! It's in no way public marshall law.
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reply posted on 28-9-2008 @ 10:01 PM by Rizen
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Can you provide some kind of a link as to verify what you are saying?
I don't think there is a difference.
According to here: www.usconstitution.net...
Because of this connection of the two concepts, it is often argued that only Congress can declare martial law, because Congress alone is granted the
power to suspend the writ. The President, however, is commander-in-chief of the military, and it has been argued that the President can take it upon
himself to declare martial law. In these times, Congress may decide not to act, effectively accepting martial law by failing to stop it; Congress may
agree to the declaration, putting the official stamp of approval on the declaration; or it can reject the President's imposition of martial law,
which could set up a power struggle between the Congress and the Executive that only the Judiciary would be able to resolve.
Again, can you provide me with information as to the difference between Congressional Martial Law and Presidential or whatever the other one is
called?
I hope there really is a difference
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reply posted on 28-9-2008 @ 10:02 PM by N.B.A.Y.S.O.H
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Thank you for clearing that up for me .i saw someone had made a thread about the video.........it got trasehd......i couldnt see why it was so
offence, so i made another thread with said same vdeo, that to got trashed.
So i posted it here.
thanks again
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reply posted on 28-9-2008 @ 10:04 PM by asmeone2
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Originally posted by MJND1990
I tend to agree with you. I don't rule out the possibility of another faux terrorist attack or convieneint natural disaster, but unless we have that
I don't see it happening.
Too many people are expecting it.
Yep. I mean if the NWOs been working at this for hundreds of years to make it gradual they will continue to do that. They never want you to realize
whats happening. They want you to think everything's ok. You'll know when their ready for marshall law because the people will be begging for the
protection.
Thankfully a lot of people are starting to "wake up" and the 9/11 conspiracies have gotten so much coverage, I think there will be some difficulty
this time to get people's blind acceptance.
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reply posted on 28-9-2008 @ 10:09 PM by MJND1990
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Originally posted by Rizen
Can you provide some kind of a link as to verify what you are saying?
I don't think there is a difference.
According to here: www.usconstitution.net...
Because of this connection of the two concepts, it is often argued that only Congress can declare martial law, because Congress alone is granted the
power to suspend the writ. The President, however, is commander-in-chief of the military, and it has been argued that the President can take it upon
himself to declare martial law. In these times, Congress may decide not to act, effectively accepting martial law by failing to stop it; Congress may
agree to the declaration, putting the official stamp of approval on the declaration; or it can reject the President's imposition of martial law,
which could set up a power struggle between the Congress and the Executive that only the Judiciary would be able to resolve.
Again, can you provide me with information as to the difference between Congressional Martial Law and Presidential or whatever the other one is
called?
I hope there really is a difference
www.cbpp.org...
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reply posted on 28-9-2008 @ 10:14 PM by Rizen
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From reading that, I don't get the sense that it is mutually exclusive.
Meaning, I don't think the declaration of Martial Law ONLY in effect in Congress.
If anything, doesn't the article mean that Martial Law is needed to skip over Rule XIII(6)(a) and that's it.
I don't see where it says Martial Law on the public and Martial Law in Congress are mutually exclusive.
Am I just blind?
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reply posted on 28-9-2008 @ 10:17 PM by MJND1990
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Originally posted by Rizen
From reading that, I don't get the sense that it is mutually exclusive.
Meaning, I don't think the declaration of Martial Law ONLY in effect in Congress.
If anything, doesn't the article mean that Martial Law is needed to skip over Rule XIII(6)(a) and that's it.
I don't see where it says Martial Law on the public and Martial Law in Congress are mutually exclusive.
Am I just blind?
I think your just trying to see a connection that is'nt there. There two entirely different concepts. Besides if we were under marshall law trust me-
you'd know it! Plus I saw that clip before all this OMG! Were doomed speculation, and I never even for a second thought it was the same thing. I
recognized the difference from the start.
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reply posted on 28-9-2008 @ 10:19 PM by Rizen
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Ok...
I was just about to pawn off my cat on ebay...
I hope your right.
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reply posted on 28-9-2008 @ 10:41 PM by TrekFan
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I'm kind of new here, even tho i've been lurking for a little while. Please have patience with me as I have a question.
Why would the NWO or any government want to exterminate half the population? I mean the population is the entirety of the tax payers. Without tax
payers then where would the governments or whoever get thier funding? Seems like they'd want to keep up alive.
Is it because of lack of resources? Current estimates state that there's enough to go around.
Or because a disaster, attack etc would lead to more control by taking away rights? Honestly I dont get that either. It seems like societies that
restrict rights dont do all that well in the long run. Think about the former soviet union. Yes there are lots of other repressive regimes in
existence today. But it seems like they arnt very prosperous.
maybe I'm missing something. I look forward to reading any responses.
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reply posted on 28-9-2008 @ 11:01 PM by MJND1990
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Originally posted by TrekFan
I'm kind of new here, even tho i've been lurking for a little while. Please have patience with me as I have a question.
Why would the NWO or any government want to exterminate half the population? I mean the population is the entirety of the tax payers. Without tax
payers then where would the governments or whoever get thier funding? Seems like they'd want to keep up alive.
Is it because of lack of resources? Current estimates state that there's enough to go around.
Or because a disaster, attack etc would lead to more control by taking away rights? Honestly I dont get that either. It seems like societies that
restrict rights dont do all that well in the long run. Think about the former soviet union. Yes there are lots of other repressive regimes in
existence today. But it seems like they arnt very prosperous.
maybe I'm missing something. I look forward to reading any responses.
Well the NWO is comprised of the elite rich of the world. Rotchschilds and Rockefeller are two of them. Combined those two are worth 120 trillion $.
That's right TRILLION. There are speculated to be 13 of these families, so you can imagine their wealth. They own EVERYTHING. Banks, media (CNN, Fox
Abc etc.) and are the real people in control. The president is just a puppet. These elite run nearly every country on earth. They are the men behind
the curtain. There eventual goal is a one world government where everyone has a microchip implant and is a slave to the system. They create chaos and
take away rights. They want the people to have NO power to stop them. Decreasing the population is simply to make the people more manigable. Here's a
interview with Aaron Russo who was friends with Nick Rockefeller. Well until Aaron died. www.youtube.com...
And heres a brief video explaining the NWO: www.youtube.com...
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reply posted on 28-9-2008 @ 11:19 PM by Grumble
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"Martial Law" in Congress is a completely different thing. Essentially, Congress makes its own rules, so the Speaker has suspended those rules in
order to get this bill passed. It may in fact be a very ominous sign, however, as it creates a precedent for Congress to be run like a little
dictatorship by the majority party.
BTW, I don't buy the depopulation thing. Smaller groups are harder to control than larger ones. Think American Colonies compared to the U.S.
population today. Besides, wealth resides in productive capacity, not money, so those who control wealth would be lessening their own power by
reducing capacity, and that is not going to happen.
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reply posted on 29-9-2008 @ 05:36 AM by AlbertFish
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Excuse me, but how is a larger group easier to control and contain? I, for one, thought that the less people you had to control, the easier it was to
dominate them, either through military control, or even MSM. I'm not trying to be mean, or anything, but could you maybe provide some proof that
smaller groups are easier to control? Thanks in advance.
Back to the topic.
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reply posted on 29-9-2008 @ 09:05 AM by sir_chancealot
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It's starting to get funny (as in haha funny, not strange funny).
A congressman SAYS we are now in martial law, and everybody goes "Nah, that's not what he meant!" Orwell was either in with the elite, or had a
good way of predicting things.
Why didn't he just say "The rules have been changed" or "The procedures are changed"? No, he said "We are now in martial law". That's his
words. But words can mean anything you want them to mean, right?
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reply posted on 29-9-2008 @ 10:05 AM by jvm222
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Thanks OP for showing what this is all about. We are too useful to just dispose of. All this fear mongering bull that a lot of you get deceived into
just makes it harder for yourselves and lives. Stop listening to Alex Jones and stop believing every word that comes out of his mouth. A lot of people
are there to scare the hell out of you to submission. As i've stated in many threads; do not be afraid. The only thing you have to fear is fear
itself. To be honest a lot of you are fearing what you aren't sure is going to happen. If Alex Jones was a real help he would be providing solutions
instead of scaring the hell out of anyone who is looking for something to believe in.
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reply posted on 29-9-2008 @ 10:29 AM by Maxmars
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I will be posting this entry into every thread related to this 'martial law' question.
Yes, the name is alarming, and no, it is not related to civilian day-to-day activities.
But don't breath a heart-felt sigh of relief just yet. There is a reason for the alarming nomenclature..., it is extraordinary that they should
invoke this process with blanket immunity, especially since we have no idea what 'extras' will be riding on the final measure.
The 'enforcement' of the expediency is very telling of the intent. I hate to say it, because many of us here at ATS are in the unenviable position
of being able to claim, 'We told you so." on the current financial crisis (I would much rather have been wrong); but it looks like some of us will
be in that very same position in a matter of weeks, if not days. This 'blanket authority to depart from regular legislative process' can be applied
to whatever measure they want, since the declaration of legislative martial law escaped the narrow definition of the bailout.
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reply posted on 29-9-2008 @ 11:14 AM by sir_chancealot
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Has anyone else noticed lately that all the "Everything is fine, nothing to see here, move along" people are people that have just joined?
Let's use an analogy here. If I believed that Brand X company makes the best cars, would I go to a forum about how Brand Y is better, and convince
them they are all wrong? What kind of mindset would it take for me to do that?
Look for signs of disinfo agents and paid shills. They are pretty evident once you know what to look for.
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reply posted on 29-9-2008 @ 11:42 AM by dalan.
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reply to post by thrashee
Don't mind that thrashee guy.
I completely agreed with your post op, our world elite are going to take their time. They are going to cause people to WANT to be slaves, all the
while with everyone believing they are still free.
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reply posted on 29-9-2008 @ 11:55 AM by MJND1990
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Originally posted by sir_chancealot
Has anyone else noticed lately that all the "Everything is fine, nothing to see here, move along" people are people that have just joined?
Let's use an analogy here. If I believed that Brand X company makes the best cars, would I go to a forum about how Brand Y is better, and convince
them they are all wrong? What kind of mindset would it take for me to do that?
Look for signs of disinfo agents and paid shills. They are pretty evident once you know what to look for.
I find this hilarious. I've said: There IS a NWO, They DO want to take over the world. Does this sound like something a disinfo agent would say? I'm
simply pointing out the facts. 300 or so years so far working on the plan. They are not going to start rushing it now. Like I've said, things will
gradually worsen. I dont see marshall law this year. We don't want it enough yet. You'll know when it's coming when you find yourself thinking
it's a good idea.
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