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China astronaut's space walk

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posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 11:17 PM
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Originally posted by enzomatica
I don't know about the flag, but the BUBBLES tell me this is FAKE as it appears they filmed it in a large water pool. You can see air bubbles popping up at 1:05 and 2:33 in this video:

www.youtube.com...


I'm not sure of the specifics of the Chinese suits, but that is most likely condensation from the space suits environmental conditioning systems being expelled into space.




posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 01:11 AM
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No racial component involved whatsoever, just a simple observation.

I'll say it again, the Chinese are polluting this planet, if you don't agree, I challenge you to drink a can of imported Chinese milk.



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 01:12 AM
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Someone must have posted this already, but i guess i overlooked it.
Where are the stars???? Are stars only visible in an atmosphere??!?!? I haven't seen any ''so called real footage of space'' with stars.....



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 02:38 AM
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Originally posted by Sfen Senterra
Someone must have posted this already, but i guess i overlooked it.
Where are the stars???? Are stars only visible in an atmosphere??!?!? I haven't seen any ''so called real footage of space'' with stars.....


When you have a bright object in the background like the earth it will be brighter than the stars causing space to look black. Not unusual pictures on the moon do the same thing.



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 02:46 AM
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Originally posted by logician magician

Originally posted by enzomatica
I don't know about the flag, but the BUBBLES tell me this is FAKE as it appears they filmed it in a large water pool. You can see air bubbles popping up at 1:05 and 2:33 in this video:

www.youtube.com...


I'm not sure of the specifics of the Chinese suits, but that is most likely condensation from the space suits environmental conditioning systems being expelled into space.


The bubbles traveled up they are obvious when your looking for them id say this was filmed in a tank good catch. Gas emitted into space would not take off in any direction and would not form a bubble. And a space suit would never be designed to emit anything in space unless it leaked and that's a bad thing.



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 02:56 AM
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Originally posted by dragonridr

Originally posted by logician magician

Originally posted by enzomatica
I don't know about the flag, but the BUBBLES tell me this is FAKE as it appears they filmed it in a large water pool. You can see air bubbles popping up at 1:05 and 2:33 in this video:

www.youtube.com...


I'm not sure of the specifics of the Chinese suits, but that is most likely condensation from the space suits environmental conditioning systems being expelled into space.


The bubbles traveled up they are obvious when your looking for them id say this was filmed in a tank good catch. Gas emitted into space would not take off in any direction and would not form a bubble. And a space suit would never be designed to emit anything in space unless it leaked and that's a bad thing.


Yes, gas would not take off in *any* direction at all. It would have to take off in *no* direction.

It would so not form a *bubble* or not even a *sphere*

Nothing in space forms a sphere. It's just impossible.



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 03:00 AM
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Originally posted by enzomatica
I don't know about the flag, but the BUBBLES tell me this is FAKE as it appears they filmed it in a large water pool. You can see air bubbles popping up at 1:05 and 2:33 in this video:

www.youtube.com...


Those aren't bubbles.
Those are UFO's. Haven't you been paying attention?

[edit on 1-10-2008 by Phage]



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 04:24 AM
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Originally posted by dragonridr

Originally posted by Sfen Senterra
Someone must have posted this already, but i guess i overlooked it.
Where are the stars???? Are stars only visible in an atmosphere??!?!? I haven't seen any ''so called real footage of space'' with stars.....


When you have a bright object in the background like the earth it will be brighter than the stars causing space to look black. Not unusual pictures on the moon do the same thing.


Thanks Dragonridr, that has been on my mind for quite a while

Cheers.



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 04:35 AM
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To address the ''bubble'' thing. let's for a while say that they are not in a tank and are 'actually' in space. They are obviously in earth's orbit and traveling fast. Your average satellite.
If some condensation my form. Can it leave there suits due to there speed?
My guess is that ( if it wore to happen ) it would just follow them. but i don't know for sure.



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 05:05 AM
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It would so not form a *bubble* or not even a *sphere*

Nothing in space forms a sphere. It's just impossible.




Then what about the planets and stars ect?

[edit on 1-10-2008 by SvenTheBerserK]



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 05:31 AM
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Originally posted by Alxandro
reply to post by Merriman Weir
 


True, many English words have French origins but my point was this.
If Americans have "astronaut" and Russians have "cosmonaut", why not be consistent and come up with something original?
Celestialnaut would have been OK, but once again the Chinese have yet to invent anything on their own without having to rely on stolen technology from other countries.


That doesn't make sense! You could equally say, 'why didn't the Americans come up with their own word'?

The irony of reading "the Chinese have yet to invent anything on their own without having to rely on stolen technology from other countries" in a thread that's riddled with a subtext of American space superiority is astonishing.



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 02:10 PM
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Wow, I didn't think of it as bubbles, but now I do, one or two of the moving things I spotted really did seem to move like air bubbles through water.

Now I'm not saying this is fake, because it could be anything. Liquid leaving the ship, ect. However, I don't think it's condensation, a couple of them were very big bubbles.

The annoying thing is, no matter what official explanation that we get, how could we ever know for sure?




posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 09:34 PM
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Here in Taiwan on 10-1-2008, they declared on all the national news channels that Chana did fake the space walk video in order to attain national respect on the race to the moon.

I have found that if you look at nasa moon photographs, (digital ones only)and you enlarge it 5times, then use the digital enhancing program of (Genuine Fractals 5) then you will clearly see structures of alien origin. These are not shadows but clear solid structures, each different in size and shape. Hundreds of structures in every photograph can be clearly seen, as if looking at the city of New York from a helicopter.

Over 45 sattalites have been launched to explore the moon, because life was not only found there, but the moon may be a alien built planet, hollow and housing millions or even billions of differerent species of aliens.



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 10:07 PM
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"The annoying thing is, no matter what official explanation that we get, how could we ever know for sure? "

You can't. Thats why there are people still believe the US never landed on the moon.



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 11:40 PM
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flags will wave in space if u jerk around it

the waving is caused by physical inertia (the flag will wave as long as you accelerate it)

just for example, if you tie a ball to a rope in space, and the rope is innitially bent, when you pull the rope, you will first drag it straight, then dragging the ball along it just as how it will move in the air, cuz this "straightening" and "dragging" movement is really mostly caused by inertia rather than air resistance

the questions people had about the moon landing was the movement of the flag when it was stationary on the ground

[edit on 10/1/2008 by warset]



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 11:52 PM
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Originally posted by jimmyjackblack
Wow, talk about fakes, that looked faker than the moon landings, also btw, one reason why they probably "came back to earth" so soon is because an amature astronomer would be able to see them in orbit, so if they were in orbit someone would be able to see them in orbit, but to excuse why they could not be seen is the fact that they came back so early, anyone point? I know, it seems a bit muddled, I'm sick and high on theraflu right now.

-Jimmy


they even sent an escort satellite to take distant pictures of shenzhou 7... and shenzhou 7 taking pictures of the escort satellite..



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 11:58 PM
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Originally posted by rocksarerocks
reply to post by LucidDreamer85
 


LOL...why would a flag wave at 17,500mph in a vaccum? What would make it wave? There is no air up there.



17500mph constant velocity with no acceleration and no air resistance = same as not moving

waving is caused by inersia (due to accelerations of the flag by hand) not by air resistance; air resistance only help to stop the flag from moving

waving (acceleration by hand) of the flag at a scenario with no air resistance and no gravity will allow the flag to move more easily, the effect of inersia becomes more apparant when its with no air resistance or gravity acting against it

who ever thinks a flag will stay stiff while waving it in space must've been watching fake videos

thank you

[edit on 10/2/2008 by warset]



posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 02:49 AM
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well I enlarged and slowed the video there are bubbles any gas escaping or even a liquid would turn immediately to a gas. Other odd thing when you slow down the video you can see he is fighting gravity even in a tank it simulates space but there is still a pull towards bottom of tank. And there is a loose strap on his suit that moves opposite him almost as if some thing is trying to hold it in place same thing happens when I scuba dive you move up a strap will go down. I suspect they filmed this before the launch to get that perfect pics for there history records.



posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 03:50 AM
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not really possible, cuz the water resistance will not allow to flag to move so freely like wuts shown in the video

i think those "bubbles" are debris ejected due to the "depressurizing" process

from reading all the forums, i think the conspiracy theories about the video can be sumarized into 2 issues that some views here are questioning about:
1) the waving flag
2) the "bubble" like object

First of all like i've explained above, there is nothing wrong with the waving flag senario, in fact, it would be wrong if the flag stays still (this is not the moon landing, where flag was stationary with force of gravity but no air resistance); in this case, there is no force of gravity, but there is acceleration and thus inersia to cause the wave

Second, about the filming under water senario. i believe, to a certain extent, filming under water to fake space film is possible. However, this is disproved by the waving flag senario. It is very unlikely to have a soft flag waving so freely when its underwater, especially if the whole film was filmed under water, then it must require a very big tank, meaning it would be deep with high water pressure and high water resistance. This then will not allow the soft flag to be waved so fast freely.

Third, about the ejecting debris. as for these space ships, they are initially pressurized. so astronauts can live inside without wearing space suit. However in order to perform space walk, the vessel must first be depressurized (releasing air into the space), then astronauts can go out to space. My guess here is that there will be still traces of air left inside segment when astronauts opens the gate, and these traces of air will be continued to become depressurized and released into the space. at this point (when the gate is opened, traces of debris will fly out from the vessel along with the remaining traces of air, and thus u get to see the small debris being ejected if there is any. thats just my guess

but i do believe this whole thing is real, especially with china's announcement of setting up temporary space laboratories with shenzhou 8, 9, 10 at 2010-13 (with their Tiangong serie space laboratories models already in display), and building a permanent space station after that, the whole thing will not work if they don't pass this space-walk step first

PS. the entire space walk was strapped because the chinese has not yet be able to make any self maneuvering suit like the americans have. they still rely on using cables to drag around

[edit on 10/2/2008 by warset]

[edit on 10/2/2008 by warset]



posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 04:07 AM
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isn't it hilarious how certain people keep on bashing China for maybe even so-called "copying" a "term/word/translation etc etc"? for your information, in Chinese we call an "astronaut" "太空人”, translated as space-human, pronounced as "taikongren", whatever English translated reports want to call it is up to the reporter themselves, innit? So if CNN calls a Chinese astronaut not "taikongren" but "astronaut", so it is something to bash on? sigh..... and when one of this taikongren is merely waving a flag causing it to wave a bit, so that is then fabricated? funny, just too funny certain people who can not face the reality that the colonial period is over for a long time and that other nations are starting to get developed... sad.... too sad



[edit on 2/10/08 by IchiNiSan]




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