We have been over the confiscated videos many times now, but lets take a step back from the Pentagon scenario as a whole for a minute and think. Many of us question why no jets were scrambled, some say there were, some say there weren't, the arguements on both sides have valid points. However, lets think of something we have a lot more of than fighter jets, video cameras.

If you were a news team, and there were ongoing terrorist attacks, would no one go to the Pentagon to get the scoop? Theres not one reporting team that thought of this in 2 hours? There was video as soon as there was smoke, I remember and its on the news archives also. By the time the Pentagon was hit (with whatever munition it was) we already knew that this was the worst terrorist attack in history.

And then theres the part that really should set off a red light. Ever seen Resovior Dogs? This scene in particular...

Do you even doubt it, man? I don't THINK we got set up, I KNOW we got set up! I mean, really, seriously, where did all those cops come from, huh? One minute they're not there, the next minute they're there? I didn't hear any sirens. The alarm went off, okay. Okay, when an alarm goes off, you got an average of four minutes response time. Unless a patrol car is cruising that street, at that particular moment, you got four minutes before they can realistically respond. In one minute there were seventeen blue boys out there. All loaded for bear, all knowing exactly what the..

How did the news get there so quickly after the attack? The roads were a mess. Traffic at a standstill. Definately a no fly zone at this point so it wasnt choppers. But they were there minutes after the attack, even though that would be next to impossible in that scenario.

In summary 2 questions
1. Why were there no news teams at the Pentagon when the obviosly werent banned and there was a HUGE story there even before the attacks?
2. If they really weren't there how did they get there so fast in a chaotic situation with limited road access?

Good questions. I'm trying to remember if there were statements issued from the Pentagon early in the morning that day. I'm sure there were. Maybe the media at the Pentagon that morning were all inside the building when the incident occurred. Then they rushed outside afterward and started to cover it from the outside.

It was of course Rumfeld!

He probably told them not to come out until they saw him on the lawn, helping carry
the dead or injured away!!





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Trust me. There are cams there to inspect every meter of ground and building.

They just chose not release any footage. And within minutes conficated the tape from the gas station across the way.

Originally posted by jpm1602
Trust me. There are cams there to inspect every meter of ground and building.

Why? They have actual security people to do that. Someone walking the grounds and building is going to be far more effective than a security camera. Having worked in places which would be considered medium security, I can tell you that the cameras were typically there for verification alone.

Even so, in response to a FOIA request, details of the number of videotapes available was released. Nobody that I know of has yet to request videos excepting those that contained the impact of AA77. Perhaps JudicialWatch could do so, or perhaps a private citizen should, but all of you should be aware of the number of videotapes available.

They just chose not release any footage. And within minutes conficated the tape from the gas station across the way.

Not only the gas station (which footage has been released) but any local facility that might have recorded the impact (two or three of which have been released)

Because it is the Pentagon expo. They have millions of dollars of recording equipment.

Physcial bodies on the ground are all good and well. But we a speaking of the Pentagon here.

They are dig cam'd to the hilt. Any thought otherwise is bolderdash.

Originally posted by jpm1602
Because it is the Pentagon expo. They have millions of dollars of recording equipment.

Physcial bodies on the ground are all good and well. But we a speaking of the Pentagon here.

They are dig cam'd to the hilt. Any thought otherwise is bolderdash.

The only evidence presented showed a camera density about the same as your average business site in the UK. Please show me some evidence suggesting that they had this huge number of cameras that you're claiming.

You are certainly free to believe anything you want. I could be wrong. But I don't think so on this one.

Peace.

Originally posted by jpm1602
Trust me. There are cams there to inspect every meter of ground and building.

Trust you, huh? On the basis of what exactly?

Perhaps you could make it a little easier for us, you know, by identifying exactly how it is that you have access to this knowledge? Do you have inside awareness of the CCTV system at the Pentagon? What system do they use? Are all of the cameras recorded?

From your further replies the best effort you've made to explain your awareness of these cameras inspecting "every meter of ground and building" is "it's the Pentagon."

Sorry mate, I won't speak for anyone else but I've had the wool pulled over my eyes a few times by people such as yourself that make these types of claims, so I hope you won't mind if I request that you back up your assertion with something other than "trust me".

Originally posted by jprophet420
1. Why were there no news teams at the Pentagon when the obviosly werent banned and there was a HUGE story there even before the attacks?
2. If they really weren't there how did they get there so fast in a chaotic situation with limited road access?

Do a google search on "Pentagon correspondent" and I think you will find that there is a continuous media presensce at the Pentagon.

Michael Moore, who has filmed at the Pentagon before, noticed many cameras that would have been able to catch the event. I think as a director he might know a thing or two about that sort of thing. Some debunkers actually believe the cameras were of the quality that ATM machines use, only prepared for the slowest of attacks!

The OP's original question is a good one, the media suddenly showed up but had no film of the event in question, it leads me to believe that they probably do possess the footage but under strict orders gave over the footage, that is just my feeling on it, cause the media can look at you bold face and lie, and of course the gov can do the same thing as well.

Did we only have cheap parking lot cameras from the Pentagon?

NO!

There was a destroyed piece of equipment on the Pentagon facade just north of the impact area. Some people had suggested it was a light or something else.

It was a camera.

Here it is and its proximity to the alleged impact zone.






Here is the replacement today. We were unable to get a good context photo of it because we were driving and the Pentagon memorial construction was obstructing the wall from the road. But this is definitely the same camera.



I am now 100% sure that they have footage from right above and to the north of the impact. This is also a high quality piece of equipment - not a cheesy little camera from a parking booth.

Where is this footage???

Since it does not technically show the wall of the Pentagon because of its placement, it may not have showed the alleged "impact" point. But I'll bet 10-1 that it would have revealed the position of the aircraft. It probably sees all the way to the Citgo from my guess and would have had more time to catch frames than the security shack cameras.

Since as of 2008 this data continues to be suppressed and since we now know the plane was on the north side, it's pretty obvious why they will refuse to show any clear images/footage of the aircraft until forced via congressional hearings and indictments.

The Navy Annex

Photos of the annex on that day are hard to come by since obviously everybody was facing the Pentagon. But here is one showing the same model of camera on the north side of the building that was on the Pentagon wall.





Then Russell took this shot on our trip of the south wall of the Navy Annex showing the same model of camera that was on the Pentagon wall as well as the replaced one at the Sheraton.




The front part of the Annex has been demolished since 9/11. They may have had a camera on that corner too since it was lower and more forward. The blue thing to the right is a new Air Force memorial sculpture they were still building in 2006.

There were several other cameras at various locations on the Annex as well but this is a sensitive area to photograph so this is all that Russell obtained at the time.

In fact Russell was detained for a while taking pics there and then we were ALL detained the following day at the citgo station for taking video footage there. It was a matter of seconds before they had about 5 pentagon police cars and 2 unmarked SUV's with feds in suits. They basically searched everything we had, confiscated our video tapes, and interrogated us for a couple of hours before letting us go.

Luckily we were smart enough to change the tapes back at the hotel before going there to film so all they got was the 30 seconds we took up on the hill at the Citgo!

Here is a still shot of the view we were taping that got confiscated:



But back to the security cameras:

This same model of camera was all over the military buildings in Pentagon City. There were two buildings we saw with military security and armed guards. Those two buildings had no less than 12 cameras between them. They were also the same model as on the Annex and the Pentagon wall. They were up high and would have had clear views.

I don't know if the video from them would have been confiscated or not. The footage might have just vanished since they were under military command. I can see the Citgo footage being taken because of "civilian" employees.

The point I am 100% convinced of is that there were multiple views that would have at least caught an image of an aircraft. The videos aren't being released for a reason and we all know why.

What about all those Immigrant yard workers that say they say a plane come down and hit the Pentagon..

They are hired actors? or FBI agents?

No explosives in the towers..
No missile hitting Pentagon.
Nothing like that.

Flight 93 was SHOT DOWN and Bush let 9/11 happen..

That's it.