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posted on Sep, 29 2008 @ 09:38 AM
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That part of the text talks is kind of philosophical/logic behind how prophets would get a signal that "an angel is present" or "get ready to receive more words from God".. Then the author goes on to explain the relation between the bell in structure and the movement of a ringing bell and the other dimensions..

I am sure some of the texts I have mention more about this, I just have to go over them and categorize them first so we can refer to them easily.

I will surely translate more of "The Sun of Great Sciences"!

What makes that part of the text interesting is that when Mohammed was asked about it, he said "it is very heavy/hard on me".. and that process is mentioned in another book, that when an angel/other dimensional being is present, you will feel great heaviness, muscle contraction, inability to resist, etc..

I can also see the same names of demons/beings written in different books that come from different time periods.. For example, the name "Shamhurish" is mentioned many times in the book "The lower Secret of the Pharaoh" and then again in "The secrets of Jews", and then "The Sun of Great Sciences".. All of which were written in different periods of time, some are printed, some are only hand written, and some are only "camera photos" of leaflets from anonymous people..

Someone asked me in U2U to show an encrypted text and show how I can decrypt it with the Hebrew/Arabic table.. So, I will do this in my next post with other misc information about the texts..





[edit on 29-9-2008 by Mr. Secret]




posted on Sep, 29 2008 @ 10:39 AM
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Originally posted by HugmyRek
They do not make the connection that while (hypothetically) you were here to do your job that you took the 2 hours before the airport to make an armed robbery at my friends house down the road-who does deal in sacred texts but nobody else knows that.

Humm?


Originally posted by HugmyRek
And so, I'm dead, your covered, my friends are dead, their books are theived to some other country's agents reserves and no body notices any thing foul has occurred. I'm sure you've heard of this?

No, nobody was hurt.. you must have thought I hired serial killers to get these texts..


Originally posted by HugmyRek
It maybe why response is low. You share that you have something to share but you haven't shared it. From what you've said, there are hundreds of these leaflets-so they are no big secret, right? If you put them fully online then we could all help dicipher (not me I don't mess with things I dont understand or which deal in dead things or people)


No, this is not why response is low.. and I'm not sure if it is..
I AM sharing the texts and copies of sheets with everybody, and I said that I am ready to send them to SOMEONE WHO KNOWS ARABIC/THIS TYPE OF TEXTS.. I WILL NOT send them to any teenager who just asks for them!



Originally posted by HugmyRek
Just a thought, post them. No need really to come over to somebody's house-is there?

You created a whole movie in your head that I travelled to another country and hired serial killers to get these books, and that I invaded people's houses?!

I am sorry, but you do not appear to be a normal person



posted on Sep, 29 2008 @ 12:18 PM
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No I didn't-and I'll agree~I am not normal.

I merely "laid on the table" a hypothetical fantisized situation to balance or explain the gaps filling the void that the cryptic lack of specific information created in your origional offers nearer the beginning of this thread.

I do that! Sorry pal, no hard feelings...


I see now that you are searching for a team of "additional researching bodies" to meet with you and your "in the know" *friends* to help decipher or/and participate in these magic books for which your "friends in the know" already have the answers to...or something close to that.

By your view, is this a correct assessment of your total offer?

Your not looking for convienient non insider people to have convieniently on hand....for any Raiders of the Ark type trip hazards. Just people to share in the art of demon summoning, alien communication, maybe travel-is that a correct assessment? You have the books translated and now from the philantropy of your heart you wish to share; or you have them partially translated and you wish to grow a larger 'think tank' than the small closed group with the answer keys to the encoded subject matter.

My question though is this: If you have associates who know how the stuff works-and everything has been so secretly kept within that secret society, and there is a death penalty for its practice-why do you risk an open offer?

Have you been ousted?

Aren't you afraid somebody is going to find out? ie: Egypt.

Also-what are the terms of this exchange: ie: Are you asking for money. Are you meeting in the Middle east or a different country. What is the risk to the participants.

Stated Facts:
You are looking for people to 'translate together' a texts that only you have the code for, in a language that you know and most don't, on a board predominantly speaking a language that is not that one-but *may* have it's speakers or people who deal or have interest in the subject matter.

It just reads like you have the texts the code and the translation-ALREADY. And the people and the networking-ALREADY. I'm worried of the possibility that in dealing with this subject matter one's aim might be to put a person of less importance in harms way to meet the other worldly directives of the text or ritual-

A word of caution: FREE WILL HAS FINE PRINT
READ THE FINE PRINT BEFORE SIGNING PEOPLE.

Say it ain't so, Mr. Secret



posted on Sep, 29 2008 @ 12:40 PM
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Could you please elaborate on the book of Great Sciences? Its the second book. It sparks great interest for me, I feel that I am a star child.



posted on Sep, 29 2008 @ 01:15 PM
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Originally posted by HugmyRek
filling the void that the cryptic lack of specific information created in your origional offers


Where is the lack of information? Did you notice how much I wrote? and how much I insisted that I have a lot more to share?


Originally posted by HugmyRek
to meet with you and your "in the know" *friends* to help decipher or/and participate in these magic books for which your "friends in the know" already have the answers to...or something close to that.



I don't have "friends" who are -in the know- I said that I MET people who seemed very knowledgeable about these things.. Even though I can get to these people in an instant, I cannot ask for more than what they give out.. The thing is, these people know that I am one who is extremely interested in these things -given the fact that I show up from time to time- asking questions hoping that their tongues slip, or that they would just give me a hint that would lead me to something useful.

This process actually led me to the table that enables you to decrypt some of these instruction text blocks.. (and I am currently preparing an example to demonstrate this)..


Originally posted by HugmyRek
By your view, is this a correct assessment of your total offer?


Nope, you still don't understand. I have texts which have been copied/photographed/copied by hand for hundreds of years.. Yes, the reason is that people are executed for using/trading/keeping them in Arab/Muslim countries.. Even though some copies of these texts might have made their way to very old and rotten personal libraries of Shiekhs/Priests.. Only very few people know they *should* be deciphered first..

As I said, the encryption is a simple substitution of numbers with letters.. these letters then make up the decrypted part of text.. The table is not a big secret, it has NOTHING to do with occult, therefore THE TABLE ITSELF IS NO SECRET.. The secret is "that specific simple letter table, IS THE KEY to deciphering the text"

Therefore, we have (rare secretly traded/copied texts, nothing seems encrypted)+(simple but non-secret key table)= useless table that has been around for thousands of years + useless texts..

What ONLY SOME PEOPLE have, is the tiny bit of information "The texts are encrypted AND The Hebrew/Arabic letter table is the key to using these texts"..


Originally posted by HugmyRek
You have the books translated and now from the philantropy of your heart you wish to share; or you have them partially translated and you wish to grow a larger 'think tank' than the small closed group with the answer keys to the encoded subject matter.


Yes, but I am also hoping to do everything in this thread once an interested person/group wish to work with me.


Originally posted by HugmyRek
My question though is this: If you have associates who know how the stuff works-and everything has been so secretly kept within that secret society,


No, there is no secret society. They are mostly individuals who trade these books and work with them in secret..


Originally posted by HugmyRek
and there is a death penalty for its practice-why do you risk an open offer?

There is a death penalty in for carrying these texts in some countries in the Middle East.. Don't worry, I am safe!


Originally posted by HugmyRek
Aren't you afraid somebody is going to find out? ie: Egypt.

I don't see where your question is coming from.. You are comparing these texts to something that is stolen from the secret archives of the vatican.. This is not the case, and I think you will still find it hard to understand me 100% because you do not know the culture there.


Originally posted by HugmyRek
Are you asking for money.
What is the risk to the participants.

No, I am not asking for anything in return. No risk for participants because we will do everything here



posted on Sep, 29 2008 @ 01:47 PM
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Originally posted by Faerygirl1984
Could you please elaborate on the book of Great Sciences? Its the second book. It sparks great interest for me, I feel that I am a star child.


"The Sun of Greater Sciences" is a well known known name of a secretly traded collection of ancient texts inherited from Egyptian/Hebrew/Solimanic/Islamic cultures..

The book contains:
- Introduction to the greater sciences.
- The greater sciences in the nations that preceded.
- Stories of people who used these sciences/practices.
- Ancient literature relating to the greater sciences.
- Sayings of Jesus, Moses, Mohammed, Solomon, and their companions regarding certain things of the sciences.
- Stories of journies of people who traveled seeking these sciences.
- Stories of people who socialized with other beings and traveled to their dimensions..
- Ancient Egyptian astronomy methods.
- Ancient calculations and divination practices..
- Stories and descriptions of other worlds/dimensions/planets.
- Descriptions of the governing rules of other worlds/dimensions..
- etc..

The front page:



A random page about planets and star systems..



I will post a demonstration of deciphering scrambled text in a few..







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posted on Sep, 29 2008 @ 02:29 PM
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Thank you. Your cooperation is well appreciated



posted on Sep, 29 2008 @ 03:01 PM
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An example of deciphering text..

The table: it consists of the Arabic letters that were used 2000 years ago, way before Islam. It is believed that this Arabic letter system was inspired from Hebrew.. Each letter is given a value, 1-10 increasing by one, and then 100-1000 increasing by 100..

The order of these letters is still known to many historians and people who deal with linguistics.. The numbers equivalent to each letter come from Hebrew numerology substituted by Arabic letters instead of the original Hebrew..

The table looks like this, starting from right to left of course..




Nothing secret here so far, just a 2000 year old letter order that is not used anymore, and assigned with numbers from the Hebrew system of numerology..

I chose a script which I have not mentioned earlier, to do two things at once.. which is show you more texts, and to demonstrate deciphering some stuff..

Text name: "The Great Magic of Moroccans"
Author: UNKNOWN, handwritten
Info: UNKNOWN



Notice the numbers in the red box? That's a new section name that has been encrypted.. Why? I am not sure, I am here to find out more and more with you..
The numbers are (from right to left in the text, from left to right here):
212801013030032005130507040150105
8010703040130601040101

The **average** reader of that book WON'T KNOW that this is scrambeled text, this is because THE CALLS TO JIN/BEINGS INVOLVED SO MANY NUMBERS TOO! The average reader would think that this combination of numbers is a "talisman" that you have to write somewhere, or that means things only to the Jinn/other beings..

NOTE: NONE of the texts that use this type of encryption, or any other occult/spiritualism/astrology books mention anything about that table..

Let's try to substitute the numbers and their values of letters from the table..
2 B
1 A
2 B
80 F
10 E
1 A
30 L
300 SH
3 J
200 R
5 H
1 A
30 L
50 N
70 "the letter Ayn"
40 M
1A
50 N
10 E
5 H
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80 F
10 E
70 "letter Ayn"
30 L
40 M
1 A
30 L
60 S
10 E
40 M
10 E
1 A

The first line would be "Bab Fe AlShjrh AlNo'manea"
Meaning: "A doorway to the Nomanic Tree"
The second would be " Fe E'elm AlSemea"
Meaning: "In the science of Semea"

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A second example..
Text name: "The magic of Shamans in bringing the Jinn"
Author: the fake author "Abdul Fatah Sayed Al-Tokhy"
Info: collection of texts reprinted after being scrambled.. (NOTICE THE RED BOX)



The lower section of this page is called "The Swear of Eblis/Satan"..
The text describes what you should do and what you should say, and the call to the beings/Jinn and then it tells you the incense is
1009505405010

Let's decipher..

100 Q
9 Ta
50 N
5 H
40 M
50 N
10 E

If we put it together in Arabic: "Qtnah Mne"
Which translates to: "A cotton of Semen"..
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I can see that all that is scrambeled is either something that sounds very secret, or something that is too suspicious to be read by the average person.. This goes with the fact that these texts are shaded in the way they are written to make them seem "fine" or "religious"..

Apparently, there's something here going on in these texts.. If the printing people of the second book didn't wish to go into trouble.. then why would the anonymous person who wrote "The greater majic of Moroccans" with his own pen and paper scramble some things the same way?

Assuming that the second book was a little scrambled so that it makes it to sidewalks or to avoid execution.. Then why would a person writing something for himself/his friend scramble text that when deciphered reveals something that appears to be great?

That is only a small question which pushes me more and more..



posted on Sep, 29 2008 @ 05:27 PM
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Originally posted by Faerygirl1984
reply to post by Mr. Secret
 


Thank you. Your cooperation is well appreciated


You're welcome..

If you are interested in any of the topics, please let me know..

I think I will translate some parts of some books until we have full translated texts..

Please let me know if you would like me to start with a certain topic..



posted on Sep, 29 2008 @ 05:37 PM
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Originally posted by Mr. Secret
reply to post by _Phoenix_
 


That part of the text talks is kind of philosophical/logic behind how prophets would get a signal that "an angel is present" or "get ready to receive more words from God".. Then the author goes on to explain the relation between the bell in structure and the movement of a ringing bell and the other dimensions..


What makes that part of the text interesting is that when Mohammed was asked about it, he said "it is very heavy/hard on me".. and that process is mentioned in another book, that when an angel/other dimensional being is present, you will feel great heaviness, muscle contraction, inability to resist, etc..



[edit on 29-9-2008 by Mr. Secret]


Hello, very interesting! Do you think this bell is used as a way to describe a noise. There was a reason I asked about this noise. It has to do with OBE and Astral Projection, I've always had a feeling that this is one way the prophets probably had communications and travels with!

When people including myself get an OBE, before it happens when you get into a trance a lot experience a ringing noise. I thought "Hey this bell noise they are talking about ,could it be this?!"

And now you mention more that possibly backs up that thought even more!

The text talks about feeling of great heaviness, muscle contraction, inability to resist, parylysis, is excatly what happens just before OBE! Even in this state you can see things. And from this state you can have OBE.

What do you think about this? Think I'm right, that this was one way that they got their stories(like going up to heaven and talking to past prophets etc) and talks with other beings.



Do you think I'm right?

I really can't help a lot, I am half Moroccan but I am not fluent in Arabic, and out of everybody I know, Moroccans and others who know arabic, I don't think most of them would want to get involved, because of the obvious reasons you have mentioned earlier.

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posted on Sep, 29 2008 @ 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by _Phoenix_
Hello very interesting! There was a reaon I asked. It has to do with OBE and Astral Projection, I believe this is one way the prophets probably had communications and travels with.

When people including myself get an OBE, before it happens a lot experience a ringing noise. I thought hey this bell noise they are talking about could it be this! And now you mention something that probably backs up that thought even more!

Feeling of great heaviness, muscle contraction, inability to resist, parylysis, is excatly what happens just before OBE! Even in this state you can see things. And from this state you can have OBE.

What do you think about this? Think I'm right, that this was one way that they got their stories(like going up to heaven and talking to past prophets etc) and talks with other beings.

Am I right?


This is exactly what I was hoping for, that someone would be knowledgable enough to read what I translate and relate the texts to whatever we know in the paranormal of modern day.. You could be absolutely right, I am 99% sure that no one has ever translated these texts, and therefore if we translate them, we will SURELY find soo much that COMPLETES things that we know about, or at least make the picture clearer about how OBEs, Alien contacts, divination, can happen.

Since you have raised a very important note about the few lines I translated, I think I will go back to the same book and translate more..

Hopefully within an hour..



posted on Sep, 29 2008 @ 06:59 PM
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Yes It seems like a sequence of Numbers here like the
Fibonacci Numbers and the relationship with the Golden ratio.
Hence it is all about re-activating strands in our DNA codes.
hence the, " A Cotton of Semen" translation.

Life is pretty much a serious of orchestrated number patterns that make op the whole understanding of everything if you look deeper at things.
You will see the pattern of numbers in your life and hence you will see your purpose here.



posted on Sep, 29 2008 @ 07:34 PM
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I don't quiet understand what you're aiming to express..

If what you are saying is "it's just a sequence".. then I can't help you, it's all very clear.. I am not morphing any of the words, the accurate substitution of letters yields accurate Arabic words/sentences.. There is no playing with words here, look it up!

The Fibonacci sequence does not relate to the paranormal world.. But it certainly helped in creating a nice shape for my custom guitar..


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posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 01:11 AM
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Well the simple idea that if you literally break down everything to its finite form
you will see it as merely a correlation of congruous numbers in a single form.
So if one has understandings of this then one can alter their reality.

Have a look at this Vid of Marko Rodins Mathematical understandings

video.google.com...





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posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 01:20 AM
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Thanks for your reply,

Just a note,

I am merely substituting numbers with no morphology involved.. This has nothing to do with "interpretation" or "wishful thinking".. If you see the process, it is constant and applies to books written in different countries by different people, official, and handwritten, old, and new..



posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 08:36 AM
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Thank you, my Friend.
I understand completely what you are saying, hence I am actually adding the morphology as I understand it with the congruity of what you say to the overall
understandings that I have deduced from your interpretations of the Arabic and Ancient Sanskrit texts.
As sometimes these are universal terrestrial and non-terrestrial understandings that hold sway over multifarious dimensions and realities.



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by Epsillion70
Sounds like similar divination processes used in the Necronomicon?












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[edit on 29-9-2008 by Epsillion70]



Forgive me, but to the best of my knowledge wasn't the Necronomicon a fictional book used by authors like HP Lovecraft and August Derleth? And therefore doesn't exist in reality but in a shared background for the storys?

Wiki Entry concerning the necronomicon



posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 04:39 AM
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Thats what the powers that be(NWO/Incanabula) would have you believe.
Because if you could simply create your own reality with your own God given
abilties of your own resource, which is your Mind.
Then you would see no need to be enslaved in a materialistic system of consumerism, mental stupefaction
and subterfuge.
You would in fact would be happy, free and at total peace. As anger, hate and war would not be your concern no longer. As instead you would want to find out who you really are. And not who the NWO/Incanabula wants to make you think who you are... which is a body with 5 senses only capable of eating, #ting, procreating and sleeping


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posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 04:08 PM
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Originally posted by Deson

Originally posted by Epsillion70
Sounds like similar divination processes used in the Necronomicon?



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[edit on 29-9-2008 by Epsillion70]



Forgive me, but to the best of my knowledge wasn't the Necronomicon a fictional book used by authors like HP Lovecraft and August Derleth? And therefore doesn't exist in reality but in a shared background for the storys?

Wiki Entry concerning the necronomicon


I have been mailed more and more scripts, and I have contacted one of these "Jinn Summoners".. We had a conversation over the phone discussing how Buddha used to enter a trance state and communicate with the Sangha.. We found great similarity between entering a trance state in Buddhist texts and entering this state to contact "delicate" beings through a lower mind brain wave which is induced by:

- Fasting.
- Meditation
- Spending time alone and shutting down the senses..

The similarities between Buddihst Singh communication, Hewbrew, Egyptian, Indian summoning of the Jinn are impressive..

I am posting more about the books tonight,

I am sure many people still don't get the picture of what I'm talking about...



posted on Oct, 3 2008 @ 04:30 AM
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Originally posted by Mr. Secret

Originally posted by Deson

Originally posted by Epsillion70
Sounds like similar divination processes used in the Necronomicon?



[edit on 29-9-2008 by Epsillion70]
[edit on 29-9-2008 by Epsillion70]



Forgive me, but to the best of my knowledge wasn't the Necronomicon a fictional book used by authors like HP Lovecraft and August Derleth? And therefore doesn't exist in reality but in a shared background for the storys?

Wiki Entry concerning the necronomicon


I have been mailed more and more scripts, and I have contacted one of these "Jinn Summoners".. We had a conversation over the phone discussing how Buddha used to enter a trance state and communicate with the Sangha.. We found great similarity between entering a trance state in Buddhist texts and entering this state to contact "delicate" beings through a lower mind brain wave which is induced by:

- Fasting.
- Meditation
- Spending time alone and shutting down the senses..

The similarities between Buddihst Singh communication, Hewbrew, Egyptian, Indian summoning of the Jinn are impressive..

I am posting more about the books tonight,

I am sure many people still don't get the picture of what I'm talking about...


That is quite true Mr Secret.
As that is the way to the powers that lay within your total infinite omnipotent self.
Because it is the Society that we live in which has been fabricated to actually stop this self understanding process by feeding us with mind numbing useless games of competitions and complete nothingness. All the while also giving us food that doesn't nourish our bodies either



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