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Pirates Die Strangely After Taking Iranian Ship

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posted on Sep, 29 2008 @ 05:43 PM
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While this story is really cool if you think about it.

What about the captain of the vessel and the rest of the crew how are they doing, Are they ill? Are they losing their hair?, Do they have burns??

It just seems odd that only the pirates caught something on the ship.

Below is a link to another article regarding this situation, and it says nothing of burning skin, hair loss, or barrels full of TRIOXIN INFESTED BODIES.


iht.com...




posted on Sep, 29 2008 @ 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
What about the captain of the vessel and the rest of the crew how are they doing, Are they ill? Are they losing their hair?, Do they have burns??

It just seems odd that only the pirates caught something on the ship.



I think it was stated earlier in the thread, but the pirates were trying to get into the cargo boxes, it is at this time that something MAY have been released.

The crew was probably nowhere around when the pirates started their pillaging of the ships cargo.



posted on Sep, 29 2008 @ 07:47 PM
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A bit OT, but they ask for these HUGE ransoms. As much as 20 million dollars. How are they getting the funds? Gold? Surely not bank transfers.



posted on Sep, 29 2008 @ 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by Sonya610
A bit OT, but they ask for these HUGE ransoms. As much as 20 million dollars. How are they getting the funds? Gold? Surely not bank transfers.

What I would do is put a tracker bug on whatever they will give the pirates, if the hostages are freed ect, later on when the pirates feel all safe, they will be able to track the pirates down and get the money back lol.

But that's probably un-necessary trouble and might cause even more trouble.



[edit on 29-9-2008 by _Phoenix_]



posted on Sep, 29 2008 @ 09:56 PM
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It has surprised me that no one has run a Q ship operation on the pirates and sank a few.
en.wikipedia.org...

All it would take is a old beat-up freighter with hidden gun-mounts and a good radar to track back to the mother ship.

After a few mother ships and there boats disappeared with crews the pirates would no be so bold.



posted on Sep, 29 2008 @ 10:47 PM
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FWIW
My mother was on the cruise ship that was attacked a few years ago. It was her cabin that the RPG went through and by the Grace of God she hit the deck the instant the RPG demolished her room. The cruise company lied---they said there were no injuries. My mother suffered total hearing loss in one ear and partial in the other. She had shrapnel wounds as well. She was LUCKY to have survived. I have pictures taken of the pirates as they were aiming at the ship.
This is Karma.
Sadly, mom died of cancer last year. I'm sorry she didn't live long enough to hear that the people that almost killed her possibly suffered a long, painful demise.I hope it hurt like hell.

[edit on 29-9-2008 by scarletm]
If you want to hear about a cover up....THAT one was a doozie. If it wasn't for the AP reporter that just happened to be on the ship, the whole incident probably would never have been reported.

[edit on 29-9-2008 by scarletm]



posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 12:08 AM
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Then the US Navy would hear them doing it. We monitor acoustics throughout the world's oceans. Doubtful that anything other than Russia's most advanced can avoid our ears.



posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 09:12 AM
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I love it, "yellow-cake" anyone, How astute!!! Another Shock and Awe story in the making!!!!

Great post Malynn!!!!!




posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 10:06 AM
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Sounds like it would be better for everyone if it went to the bottom with all on board, and quickly.

You know, just saying.



posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 11:32 AM
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Not sure if it's been posted here yet or not, but the story is leading right now at foxnews.com:



As Somali pirates brazenly maintain their standoff with American warships off the coast of Africa, the cargo aboard one Iranian ship they commandeered is raising concerns that it may contain materials that can be used for chemical or biological weapons.



posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 05:09 PM
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Thanks GND for posting this.

I know how a lot of people on ATS feel about Fox News, But at least it seems like at least one of the companies in the MSM are taking notice of these accusations that there may be some sort of chemical, biological or radioactive weapon aboard the Iranian ship!

Mysterious Cargo Aboard Iranian Ship Seized by Pirates Raises WMD Concerns

Here's a little new news about the ship itself!



The massive shipping company that controls the vessel, the Islamic Republic of Iran Shipping Line (IRISL), was recently designated by the U.S. Department of the Treasury over nuclear proliferation concerns. IRISL, which is accused of falsifying documents to facilitate the shipment of weapons and chemicals for use in Iran's missile program, is blocked from moving money through U.S. banks as well as from carrying food and medical supplies as part of U.S. trade sanctions against Iran.



So the ship has been suspected before by the US to be smuggling illegal weapons and chemicals!



They ransacked the ship and searched the containers. But in the days following the hijacking, a number of them fell ill and died, suffering skin burns and hair loss, according to reports.

The pirates were sickened because of their contact with the seized cargo, according to Hassan Osman, the Somali minister of Minerals and Oil, who met with the pirates to facilitate negotiations.

"That ship is unusual," Osman told the Long War Journal, an online news source that covers the War on Terror. "It is not carrying a normal shipment."





The ship's contents are still unclear, but the reported deaths and skin abrasions have raised concerns that it could be more than meets the eye.
******SKIP******
Chemical experts say the reports sound inconsistent with chemical poisoning, but may reflect the effects of exposure to radiation.



Well, Fox News added a couple new little tid bits anyway!

(PS. We really don't need everybody posting that they said "radioactive" from the start, it really doesn't add anything to the discussion.)



[edit on 9/30/2008 by Keyhole]



posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 05:27 PM
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www.foxnews.com...



"It's baffling," said Jonathan Tucker, a senior fellow at the James Martin Center for Nonproliferation Studies. "I'm not aware of any chemical agent that produces loss of hair within a few days. That's more suggestive of high levels of radioactive waste."

Tucker, a chemical and biological weapons expert, said that Chinese companies have been implicated in selling Iran so-called dual-use chemicals, legal ingredients that can be processed into chemical weapons.



Exactly.

Unless of course the cargo was chemotherapy drugs that these guys decided to inject into themselves.



posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 10:50 PM
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Yesterday I was reading about this on CNN.com thinking to myself "what if these ended up being nukes instead of simple tanks, RPG's, and ammo"?.. And I really didn't think alot about it.. It was a fleeting thought..

And then I was at work today reading up on what was going on and it turns out that these guys really WERE exposed to something if their hair is falling out and they are dying for no apparent reason.. This sounds less like chemical exposure to me and more like radiation sickness. It will be very interesting to see what comes to light on this...

I was reading the FoxNews.com news story today at work and I was shocked what I was reading. I don't know if anyone else caught this but when I read this part my jaw dropped.

From:
www.foxnews.com...


"IRISL's actions are part of a broader pattern of deception and fabrication that Iran uses to advance its nuclear and missile programs," said Stuart Levey, Undersecretary of the Treasury for Terrorism and Financial Intelligence.

The U.S. government has made no accusation against IRISL regarding the Iran Denayat; the State Department would not comment on reports of its suspicious cargo.

"I don't have any information on that case," said State Department spokesman Curtis Cooper. "We're aware that there are currently 12 other hijacked ships off the Somali coast. This is obviously something that is disturbing."


The question that should be asked, though, is whether or not this number is knowingly being exaggerated to instill anti-Iranian sentiment within the International community, Or whether this number involves ships we really KNOW are hijacked.. I don't know anyone who can honestly answer that question yet.

-ChriS



[edit on 30-9-2008 by BlasteR]



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 11:01 AM
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i will actually laugh out loud if this ends up proving george bush right in the case about those countries having weapons of mass destruction haha



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 11:10 AM
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Exactly what I was thinking. Question is, if it is radioactive material is it meant for power plants? weapons? resale?



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 02:00 PM
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Why is everyone assuming that the Iranian ship had nukes on it, instead of realizing that they probably killed the pirates using chemical weapons to get th ship back?

They probably shot a bunch of WP (white phosphorous) onto the ship.



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by unnamedninja
Why is everyone assuming that the Iranian ship had nukes on it, instead of realizing that they probably killed the pirates using chemical weapons to get th ship back?

They probably shot a bunch of WP (white phosphorous) onto the ship.


That is pure conjecture!

There is nothing in ANY news source that states that there was ever a fight put up by the crew to begin with!

And if they were burned by WP, they would be reporting DEEP burns/burn holes in the bodies of the pirates as soon as the incident happened.

The burns didn't show up until days later supposedly.



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 02:43 PM
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Originally posted by Keyhole

Originally posted by unnamedninja
Why is everyone assuming that the Iranian ship had nukes on it, instead of realizing that they probably killed the pirates using chemical weapons to get th ship back?

They probably shot a bunch of WP (white phosphorous) onto the ship.


That is pure conjecture!

There is nothing in ANY news source that states that there was ever a fight put up by the crew to begin with!

And if they were burned by WP, they would be reporting DEEP burns/burn holes in the bodies of the pirates as soon as the incident happened.

The burns didn't show up until days later supposedly.


Way to straw man me. I said chemical weapons, and then I mentioned WP. There is a huge range of chemical weapons. I dont know about you, but I'm not an expert about all chemical weapons and their telltale injuries. But I know about Iran and their miliary. They probably would not give half a crap about firing some canisters of chemical weapons onto the ship to reclaim it.

This is just yet more propaganda. What a huge coincidence that pirates would happen to board a ship carrying nuclear material to Iran, a country which according to Bush already has a shedload of nukes. And how unfortunate that a ship carrying material as sensitive as that, did not have enough military presence on there to prevent the pirates taking the ship.

A little common sense goes a long way.



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 05:21 PM
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sounds like radiation poisioning, loss of hair, burning skin, death. totally radiation from so uranium they are buying on the black market, or whatever.......



posted on Oct, 1 2008 @ 10:58 PM
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It is not:

yellowcake (farrr too diluted)
medical tritium (lead containment vessels)
reactor ready uranium (too low grade @ 4% or so & contained)
nukes (nukes have lead reflectors around the core or outside the reflector lenses and the signature is near nill even laying down on the ferring/nose cone)

Some considerations:

Raw weapons grade ore and the container was lined with lead and when compromised out escaped a fatal dose of radiation or highly toxic radon gas.

Polonium 210 in even a teaspoonful in a container would dose the hijackers good.

Perhaps they did find some weapons grade ore. either that or they were stupid and thought containment vessels were actually thermoses!

Hair falling out within a couple days sounds like a massive dose of mid to high grade ore. The thing is that containment vessels could have been damaged at sea. Who knows. If this shipment was really on the way to IRAN then it could be tubes of uranium hexafluoride gas on the way to the centrifuges for enrichment.

What a painful way to go out though! OUCH!


[edit on 1-10-2008 by Atlantican]



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