Pirates Die Strangely After Taking Iranian Ship, page 5

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reply posted on 28-9-2008 @ 05:57 PM by whatukno

Isn't there a lot of different normal chemicals that can cause burns and hair loss? I mean yes radioactive agents can cause these, but so can other chemicals.

Perhaps the pirates opened up crates full of typical toxic chemicals that react with air, this would cause the chemical burns and the hair loss.

It may not be a weapon of any sort they got a hold of but an agent used in manufacturing or processing. They are pirates after all, they just steal whatever they can get their hands on.

reply posted on 28-9-2008 @ 06:18 PM by DCPatriot

Originally posted by poet1b
I'm really surprised this story isn't getting more attention. You hear about the Urkrainian ship, but not the Iranian ship. If reports about the health effects on the pirates are true, then this is a very, very serious situation.

If this were November 10th...it would receive O.J.'s White Bronco chase-coverage.

More important to finish the Socialists' coup in the USA.

reply posted on 28-9-2008 @ 07:06 PM by thefreepatriot

reply to post by sy.gunson

Oh please.. its obvious that al quada is a U.S invention.. So don't even go there..

reply posted on 28-9-2008 @ 08:53 PM by HIFIGUY

Pirates die, but the original crew of the ship lived?

www.eaglespeak.us...

The Pirates demand was the following:

He said the Iranian ship with 28 crew members including two Russians, two Pakistanis and a Syrian would soon be freed once the $2 million ransom agreed upon was paid.

Russian ships were being sent to the area...

Galrahn does offer up the possibility of a Russian rescue of the Iranian ship, based on early reports of Russian ships headed to the area

Then as I think about the oddity of this story, I am reminded of the Russian theater rescue some years back.

After a two-and-a-half day siege, Russian OSNAZ forces pumped an unknown chemical agent into the building's ventilation system and violently raided it.[1] Officially, 39 of the terrorists were killed by Russian forces, along with at least 129 and possibly many more of the hostages (nine of them foreigners). All but two[2] of the hostages who died during the siege were killed by the toxic substance pumped into the theatre to subdue the militants

en.wikipedia.org...

Either way, a crew with no sickness, and pirates with sickness sounds odd to me. Food poisoning? Gas? Covert operation?

Either way, the Pirates received a dose of their own doing.

Peace

[edit on 28-9-2008 by HIFIGUY]

reply posted on 28-9-2008 @ 09:28 PM by spacebot

reply to post by Keyhole

Nobody can make their story straight it seems considering this ship, US (they see but don't touch), Iran(what do they have onboard), Somalia(some more money won't hurt them), The Pierats themselves(ok they re justified, they re pirates afterall), UK or else the Royal

navy (all of a sudden they feel warmhearted against pierats and they don't shoot) Israel. (What? Why did I say Israel? Maybe there some seriously dangerous kosher food in these containers, people got sick after all)

Russia (they are steaming down there..strangely enough they started steaming down there a day prior the Ukranian thing happened yet they confirmed this was their original destination)

Most of all the involved parties TIMES also won't get a straight story if asked. The events have been developing since 21 August and they happen to catch on this story JUST NOW! After the Ukranian vessel snatch which happened at a later date than the Iranian one.

Probably the ship is carrying something was not supposed to be there, it might not be the mother of all shipments

but incriminating anyway, every other nation involved in the Iraq Iran issue is nearby throwing tea parties around teh ship and Israel is nowhere? I can't understand those people. They seem to miss all the good parties.

There's just too much Kosher ingredients in that recipe and I wont touch it!

[edit on 28-9-2008 by spacebot]

reply posted on 28-9-2008 @ 09:40 PM by Frogs

Originally posted by HIFIGUY
Pirates die, but the original crew of the ship lived?
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Either way, a crew with no sickness, and pirates with sickness sounds odd to me. Food poisoning? Gas? Covert operation?

Either way, the Pirates received a dose of their own doing.

Maybe the crew knew about the cargo and kept whatever saftey measures they had in place. The pirates, not knowing the cargo and wanting to see what they captured, started poking around the cargo and got a good dose of whatever the cargo is?

reply posted on 28-9-2008 @ 09:54 PM by gulfstreamsalt

Its simple - when I was in the navy I recall the guys talking about how a sea gull flew in front of the swiveling radar on high power - the thing literally caught fire.

Turn on the radar (on low power), and let them cook, and simply wait it out... Not too high of power you don't want them to figure it out...

That is what they did, now they are too sick to do anything.

Radiation weapons are going to become much more common.

What will be interesting is when the general public figures out how to pull the cyclotrons out of Microwaves and hook them up to small parabolic dishes. Your going to see lots of people getting 'overnight cancer...'

These guys will be well done... Sadly they were holding the crew hostage - they were cooked too..

reply posted on 28-9-2008 @ 10:00 PM by Spock Shock

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this but perhaps as a precaution to the recent hijackings of these ships, they perhaps booby trapped the cargo in a way that only crew was able to safely unload the cargo?

reply posted on 29-9-2008 @ 12:24 AM by o22a6ar

reply to post by o22a6ar

Yes, this is a reply to my own post - whatever. I correct my post. I went to work after posting this, and was thinking about it. This is from a news source is it not? Since this post is under the "Breaking Alternative News" forum, I am going to assume that it is. It seems to me that this news source is attempting to scare us into thinking that Iran is constructing nuclear weapons to bomb the United States. The symptoms that were reported undoubtedly fit those of radiation poisoning. This is a case of undercover thought manipulation. However, I don't believe this was the intention of the OP - Iran, radiation, news. This fits the MO of social engineering.

reply posted on 29-9-2008 @ 01:28 AM by TXMACHINEGUNDLR

Good. That is pretty much how I really feel about this. I hope they died slowly and were in great pain. We should sink every ship they take. That is the only way they will learn a lesson. Block all food and aid as well. Let them all suffer.

reply posted on 29-9-2008 @ 02:28 AM by ANNED

Depleted Uranium ammunition maybe??

No way DU is only a alpha emitter
Alpha particles will no go through a piece of paper.
Yellow cake can not be that ether, not radio active enough.

This sound like only one thing and that is a uranium fluoride gas made from spent reactor fuel.
en.wikipedia.org...
this is a product of spent fuel processing and highly radioactive.
being a gas it could be dispersed on deck around the victims and if the crew was careful and stayed up wind they would not be exposed.

One breath and the pirates would be screwed but it would disperse rapidly and the crew could walk through the area 10 minutes later with no ill affects.

UF6 is used in both of the main uranium enrichment methods, gaseous diffusion and the gas centrifuge method .

Is this from china going to iran and there gas centrifuges.
Waste from iran's gas centrifuges going to europe to be used as a WMD.

I have a idea that the Navy seals have been under the ship with radiation detectors and have a good idea what they are dealing with.
www.fas.org...

anned ex US Navy

reply posted on 29-9-2008 @ 03:39 AM by TXMACHINEGUNDLR

reply to post by ANNED

I bet you are right. I wonder how many of these the SEALs take down a year...Ones we never hear about.

reply posted on 29-9-2008 @ 03:59 AM by Ballz of Uranus

reply posted on 29-9-2008 @ 04:06 AM by Illusionsaregrander

reply to post by kettlebellysmith

Yeah, I worked on a project that involved chemical weapons, and we were trained pretty extensively in what they do and do not do, and what they are describing doesnt sound like any chemical weapon I have ever heard of. Sound exactly like some sort of radiation exposure.

Chemical weapons act fast. And none that I know of have anything to do with your hair falling out. MAYBE if you got a blister agent all over your scalp, but that would be so easy to identify it would not be a medical mystery at all.

reply posted on 29-9-2008 @ 04:27 AM by jpm1602

Radiation poisoning would be my best guess.

Now. Has anyone considered that with one ship seized in late July. They may have set the pirates up with a second in August?

Just the conspiracy freak in me.

reply posted on 29-9-2008 @ 04:31 AM by _Phoenix_

Originally posted by TXMACHINEGUNDLR
Good. That is pretty much how I really feel about this. I hope they died slowly and were in great pain. We should sink every ship they take. That is the only way they will learn a lesson. Block all food and aid as well. Let them all suffer.

I'm not defending them, but what your saying is a bit extreme, I'm sensing you have a thing for pirates lol.

[edit on 29-9-2008 by _Phoenix_]

reply posted on 29-9-2008 @ 07:12 AM by jtma508

Has this hijacking even been confirmed? You'd think this would have alot of international attention (it plays right into the hands of the PWB) but I can't find any confirmation. Most sources are circular in nature. Is this just internet rumor?

reply posted on 29-9-2008 @ 07:25 AM by Kailassa

Originally posted by jtma508
Has this hijacking even been confirmed? You'd think this would have alot of international attention (it plays right into the hands of the PWB) but I can't find any confirmation. Most sources are circular in nature. Is this just internet rumor?

There are 2 ship hijackings that are both confirmed, and which many people in this thread are confusing together. One is Iranian, one is Russian. Ship hijacking is a regular phenomenon; it seems there are organised groups of pirates doing this in order to ransom the ships to the countries owning them.

The "radiation symptoms" of the pirates are not confirmed, and they are left out of most accounts. History shows us stories like this can be invented in order to soften people up to make it easier for America to get away with attacking/invading another country.