reply to post by Maxmars
I have to disagree. While I think everything leading up until now was a waste of time, this debate at least held some substance to it. We were
allowed to really see where these candidates fundamentally differ. Both brought up great points against the other, and both had to refute it.
Again, as I said in another thread, we did not hear Obama bringing up McCain being old. We did not hear McCain accusing Obama of not being patriotic
due to not wearing a lapel.
They brought up voting records. McCain would accuse Obama of shooting down a bill. Then Obama would retort by bringing up that it was pork laden.
This kind of debating is crucial.
So it makes me a bit frustrated when I hear people on ATS critique the debate as useless. I assume you are into politics, which is why you watched
it. That means you probably contribute to the politics forum frequently.
The kind of debating that occurred could
have been happening on ATS this entire time
. We knew the MSM wouldn't give us this kind of
information, but everyone still continued posting it. Maybe they do it for the points in the breaking news forum, or maybe they do it to push their
agenda. I don't know. What I do know is that people need to discuss this kind of politics far more than what is currently being done on this board.
Also, whatever you feel they left out, please contribute it to the forum. You can't possibly expect them to pull out a budget on stage and line by
line where they will make the cuts. Pulling out charts and graphs have proven to be failed techniques (see Ralph Nadar).
But you can do that. You can post facts with more substance.
reply to post by bknapple32
I believe Obama won - but that is a bit biased. McCain just kept saying, "You don't understand...", and Obama was able to rebut that the next
chance he got to speak. It made it seem as if McCain didn't understand Obama's position, not the other way around.
Of course, this was just the first debate. I don't believe it's going to cause a big surge or fall in either's numbers. I think the next few
could be a bit more important.
Oh, and I hear the next one is 100% on the economy. Should be interesting.
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