Decision 2008- Canada, page 2
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reply posted on 27-9-2008 @ 06:33 PM by Cynic
Originally posted by RealMckoy
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That doesn't mean I can't respect the opinion of others who didn't like him though.



Loathe would be more appropriate, but I get your point. Touche!


reply posted on 27-9-2008 @ 10:51 PM by PopeyeFAFL
Originally posted by Malynn
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post by PopeyeFAFL



What I Don't Like

The fact that Canadians don't vote for their Prime Minister. They vote for their Member of Parliament. For any Americans reading this thread who don't know what I'm talking about (and please Canadians...correct me if I'm wrong on how I describe this):

When Canadians have federal elections all the MPs come up for election at once. There will be a Conservative, Liberal, and NDP candidate for each riding (ridings are kind of like Congressional Districts), and Bloc if the riding is in Quebec. Canadians vote for which party they want to represent their riding. At the end of the election whichever party has the most MPs elected gets to form the government, and supply the Prime Minister. The Prime Minister is selected by the party members ahead of time. I'm not a big fan of this. I don't have any suggestions on how else you could do it, I just know that I'm not crazy about Members of Parliament getting to decide who will be your Prime Minister. Canadians only get to cast votes for which party they want.



I understands what you say here.

I just which to add this for someone not knowing how Canadian politics works.

Unless you have pay a small fee to have a member card of a given party and attend the convention of that party, you don't have a say in which one is choosen to represent that party.

Again convention are not mandatory (depends of the party, some party will not held a convention if that party is in power, they will most likely held one for a defeated party or if the party did badly) and in fact unless you are delegate for your riding to go to that convention, you don't vote for your party leader directly.

At the election, unless the chief of a given party is also in your riding, you don't vote for them directly (as you pointed out), you vote for your local candidate, which may or may not be in the winning party (winning party is off course the one having elected to most number of candidates/deputes).

So we don't vote for the Prime Minister directly, but in most cases, that how it is perceived, since lots of people will not really study in big depth, who is in their riding, therefore they end up casting their vote for the leader.


reply posted on 28-9-2008 @ 08:33 AM by Littlemiss
Originally posted by RealMckoy
I wanted to see my fellow Canadians' take on our own upcoming election

thanks "Steve" I really didn't want to vote again anytime soon, but...

I am not a card carrying member of any of the political parties. Used to vote Liberal, won't ever vote Conservative, last election voted NDP, and this time I honestly have no clue.

Won't vote liberal again until they get a leader who has more "oomph". Stephan Dion just comes across as someone who is one dimensional. Now, I am not saying that this is the case, I am saying that is how he comes across to me. I admit I don't know a lot about the whole Carbon Tax stuff and I should investigte, I want to know more about it than the Conservative scare tactics ads would have me believe. Oh yeah another older issue, HRDC Jane Stewart, need I say more ?

Won't vote conservative. Stephen Harper scares the crap out of me. He has broken his own election rule. During the last election he ran on the premise of "cleaning up government". Doesn't seem to me he has done that. Does anyone remember him saying he didn't need to co operate with the Ethics Commissioner and that he didn't "have to" ? In my own opinion of course, I feel that Harper wishes to be too much like George W Bush for my liking. One thing I have to say in his favour though, he is one of the first Prime Ministers willing to spend any decent money on our Military and they so desperately need it. More recently the issue of the allegedly "suspicious" grant by MP Mackay to a women's advocacy group, when they had targeted thos same groups for major cuts.

NDP ? Not sure about this one. Am looking into their platform in more details.


I am tired of voting for the "lesser of the evils".

who are you going to vote for Canada, and why ? Would like to hear/read your opinions, and Please let's keep it civil please whether we agree or disagree with eachothers' points of view.



RealMcCoy, I'm with you on this one! Personally, I think Harper is a robot. Just watch the man when he blinks, I swear you can hear clicking! Yup, if I were back in the land of the Canucks (but I'm your friend in a land far, far away McCoy...guess who!) I too would be voting NDP, as I did last time!

Winks to ya...your BlueJay friend!


reply posted on 28-9-2008 @ 09:09 AM by Malynn
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I do have a question though. Do not the party members elect the leaders of their Party in the United States also ? Or, are they specifically voting for Presidential Candidates and are these votes done by the public ?


Ok, I think this is how this works in the U.S. The Presidential Candidates are selected during the primaries. The general populace gets to vote in the primaries. Whichever candidate wins the state the primary is held in is supposed to get the votes of the delegates from that state at the National Convention. It's a bit more complicated than that with the Democrats, but the Republicans are fairly straight-forward.

Edited: For terrible grammar and forgotten words.


[edit on 9/28/08 by Malynn]


reply posted on 30-9-2008 @ 05:41 AM by RealMckoy
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Intrepid ! Yes, Yes I remember that well. the only comment I have to say is that, that person, never should have been able to get that close. The security detail was obviously not on the ball that day.


reply posted on 3-10-2008 @ 11:00 PM by PuRe EnErGy

Parental Advisor - It still has a wicked message (even though it's intended for the United States)

The New Democratic Party is who I will be voting for, I've done my share of research and think the way the world is heading that this is the best choice by far to steer us in the right direction and avoid the wrong course of history we would have with Harper.

Vote Jack Layton. NDP

[edit on 10/3/2008 by PuRe EnErGy]


reply posted on 4-10-2008 @ 08:56 AM by RealMckoy
reply to post by PuRe EnErGy



Pretty awesome thanks, it's kind of cool. Won't be too long now. I am loathe to think the Conservatives will get back in.. I sure as hell hope not.

Wait and see now, and hopefully some more people will come on in here and give their opinions... maybe some of the people who watched the debate... Helloooooo ?!


reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 08:57 PM by PopeyeFAFL
I think there are some changes.

October 03:



October 06:



Source:
www.democraticspace.com...

Majority at 155 seats.

Harper will probably win, but minority and will have been served a lesson.
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