ok but to fully explain will take a whole new thread

I don't understand why people think they have come up with some miraculous discovery that disproves evolution. If you honestly think you have disproved evolution (I'll lay $500 down that you haven't) then bring publish your findings, and you'll be as well known as Einstein. Creationists across the globe would know your name, and you'd be rich with all of the funding you'd receive to further your amazing research skills.

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Have you looked into the theory that aliens made homo - sapien from homo- erectus.

Now, the alien existence theory cannot be dismissed. It is scientifically plausable that they exist.

Would it be possible for humans to slightly modify the dna of a monkey today. If not how far away are we from doing this.

So the science of this theory is possible.

It is much easier to believe that the gods that made human and taught him how to irrigate where aliens not invisible gods.

How do you think the humans in south America new so much about the sky and math. They were taught by a man unlike them. With a elongated skull. Look it into .

One day we will know.

Definitely aliens, and more than one type from more than one different planet, have visited earth.

Evolution cannot be proven.
For what reason would any evolution of anything occur?
For what reason would one species become another?
Why would a bacteria become a frog?
For what reason would there be multiple forms of the same species?
For what reason would one become prey and another predator?
Why would a cat become a dog or vice-versa?

Ideas of evolution are just sillly.
If you believe in evolution, then you must also believe that the elements become other. That oxygen become nitrogen, that iron evolves into aluminum etc.

Is it possible just to accept what is and get on with life?

Originally posted by OhZone
Evolution cannot be proven.
For what reason would any evolution of anything occur?
For what reason would one species become another?
Why would a bacteria become a frog?
For what reason would there be multiple forms of the same species?
For what reason would one become prey and another predator?
Why would a cat become a dog or vice-versa?

Ideas of evolution are just sillly.
If you believe in evolution, then you must also believe that the elements become other. That oxygen become nitrogen, that iron evolves into aluminum etc.

Is it possible just to accept what is and get on with life?

Not only does this completely exemplify why most people are unqualified to even have this debate, it says an awful lot about our school systems. Please tell me, if not the silly idea of evolution, please tell us what perfectly logical belief system you do subscribe to. If evolution is silly, simply because you obviously do NOT UNDERSTAND IT. Then I feel obligated to ask what does make sense to you.

"To understand how things change, keep in mind the amount of time.
Small changes build up over time, and can change the appearance of a living organism."
Uh, yeah, you can't see it happening, but some "authority" says that it did.
Evolution is sort of a religion based on heresay, just like all the rest of them.
And like all "brainwashed true believers" you are as dogmatic about your beliefs in evolution as any of the religionists are in their religions. And you are just as fanatic about every little thing you can interpret as proof as they are.

What makes sense to me?
I have no need to think about how it all got here.
What is is. I just need to know how it all works to make my way int this world. I don't have time for myth based histories.

Monkey changing into man? You have some kind of rationale for this?
If it was in the best interest of the species why didn't all monkeys change into humans?

Do you think humans are a biological improvement over monkeys?
Then do tell me in what way they are an improvement.

Originally posted by OhZone
"To understand how things change, keep in mind the amount of time.
Small changes build up over time, and can change the appearance of a living organism."
Uh, yeah, you can't see it happening, but some "authority" says that it did.

No, the evidence says it does. Look at your friends and family, can you see them growing? No, but you know that they did and what's more you can prove that this thing called "growth" that can't be seen has happened because you have snapshots taken of another time, that show that things were different. That's BOTH genetics AND the fossil record show.

What is is. I just need to know how it all works to make my way int this world. I don't have time for myth based histories.

This is an interesting statement from an anti-evolutionist. Science is the pursuit of knowledge, and hence, how things work. And guess what. Evolution is the backbone of biology and it explains how living things became what that "is"

If it was in the best interest of the species why didn't all monkeys change into humans?

"interest" has nothing to do with evolution, being that it is a trial and error process of biological development. And secondly, why would they have to? Evolution never said things have to evolve in a linear manner, and its especially unlikely that a wide spread population of a species is going to change differently depending on where they are. It's only ever really small populations that evolve linearly.

Do you think humans are a biological improvement over monkeys?
Then do tell me in what way they are an improvement.

Well being as how it's all about traits that are advantageous, intelligence is the "improvement". In fact it's so good that it's damaging to everything else, it's thrown things out of balance.

Maybe because humans have always been humans,nothing else,same with a dog or a cat,they might have some similaritys but no proof they evolved from anything but,guess scientists need job security as well

Who cares where our true origin sprang from. As long as we sit and argue scientists and preachers make their money off of us. We could have came from mars, we could have been made from God, or we descended from apes. It was long ago so who really cares?

If your going to claim we came from God then an evolutionist would argue but what about evidence from dinosaur bones?

If you claim we descended from apes then where are the "missing links"?
The "missing links" are yet to be found or they could have been found but further tests are yet to be done.

Whether you like it or not we come from the same branch of species as the apes. We may look different but we evolved much quicker. You could say we had a helping hand from God to be what we are today. He could have created us and all the animals and evolved us as his prized possessions. Or we could have flourished from an old form of bacteria and evolved into different species as time passed.

At this point anything could be possible.

Evolution is the backbone of biology??
I don't think so. I took biology in high school and evolution was not even mentioned.
Nothing I know about living organizms needs evolution to explain it.

"Best interests of the species" has to do with its biological/survival advantage.
We didn't need more intelligence for this.
If indeed we descended from monkeys, then that is what we did - descended/devolved.
We are weaker, we have thin skin and tender feet. We need clothing to protect us from the elements and from the environment - scratches from brush, things that we step on,insect bites.
Nature does not cause a species to degenerate, like us from monkeys. The monkeys are physically far superior. Nature is only interested in survival not technology being created by intelligence.

If nature "cared' about intelligence then all animals would be far more intelligent. ARe they? No! They are only as intelligent as they need to be to survive.

There is no evidence for evolution. There is only evidence that different types of creatures similar to those that live today once lived on earth. There are no inbetweeners.

Originally posted by OhZone

We are weaker, we have thin skin and tender feet. We need clothing to protect us from the elements and from the environment - scratches from brush, things that we step on,insect bites.
Nature does not cause a species to degenerate, like us from monkeys. The monkeys are physically far superior. Nature is only interested in survival not technology being created by intelligence.

Are you serious???????

Do you have any idea how old shoes and clothing are compared to man?
Do you have any idea how many people still to this day live in some of the harshest environments on earth with little more than a loin cloth?
What planet do you live on that we need shoes and clothes to survive?