Bailouts - Why Whining Americans Don't Get It, page 1


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reply posted on 26-9-2008 @ 03:49 PM by EtSolveMundi
Originally posted by SteveR
We are not bailing out the elite and forgetting you exist.

That's your opinion, also who is 'we'? Are you saying you're a congressman ?

It's very simple, by keeping the market working as it should we make sure you get everything you need when you need it.

I like your thinking, but it's a few months too late. Why didn't "you" keep the market working in the first place?

Sure there have been failures but this is nothing compared to how things could be.

You're right. We could have avoided this whole thing entirely, or we could avoid rewarding the institutions that caused it, or we could do so in a responsible manner and without an insane tax burden or a massive new debt.

Without the economy, life as you've come to know it would not exist.

Most of the posts I've read which are against the bailout recognize this, perhaps because it is obvious.

If we give you $7000 each as someone suggested and let the system fail, you will fail.

Why don't you take that up with whoever said it, rather than putting words in "our" mouths. Also, thanks for the opinion.

The suits in Washington are doing the best thing for the people - in the long run.

Once again thanks for your baseless claim.

Less whining and more intelligent thinking is needed here.

If having an unpopular (although I believe about 40% of the public shares "our" opinion of the bailout) is considered whining and unintelligent, well, I'm a crybaby idiot.

Thank you

No, thank you for reaffirming my belief that the bailout is criminally irresponsible and an absolutely wrong choice. Also, your entire tone comes across as condescending and arrogant, but I'm sure that's not an accurate reflection of your intentions, because you're just trying to tell us that "the suits" are looking out for us.



reply posted on 26-9-2008 @ 03:54 PM by Maxmars
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Steve, you're recognized as a member scholar. That has to count for something. But I see your position as nearly indefensible.

The issue here can be reduced to a simple fact, those who caused the problem should NOT be, in any way, empowered to escape the consequences. Monetizing debt, or borrowing MORE money from the FED is not going to 'fix' anything for anyone who is victimized by the actions of those who caused this problem.

The Market has been manipulated by those who feel they are equipped to do so, and reality struck back (as it often does) and made clear these "banksters" are NOT equipped to do so after all.

It is a matter of goals, and their goal is NOT conducive to the common good.

Our real problem is that those who stand oath-bound to protect us, have done nothing to do so. And now it seems they are going to the fox to ask how to fix the hen house.


reply posted on 26-9-2008 @ 03:56 PM by Sheridan
reply to post by SteveR


I don't know which planet are you live on, but in the 21st century I never saw a politician who is cared with the ordinary man. You're living in a dream world, where good politicians are existing. Here is the bad news. There are no good politician in the U.S., nor in Europe who is care with YOUR interests. They're just trying to save THEIR money. I hope they'll fail. I hope all the banks will go to bankrupt. And I honestly hope that all greedy moron, who caused this all over the world will hang before the end of the year. All of them deserves.


reply posted on 26-9-2008 @ 03:57 PM by marg6043
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Unless you are trying to be sarcastic I will take it as a joke, see we may no be market savvies here but we smell a rat a distance away and we are aware here in ATS through analysis by members of what is cooking behind doors in Washington.

Anyway the post sounds like what one senator said on TV he actually in other words call the American people ignorant of what goes on In Wall street.


reply posted on 26-9-2008 @ 03:58 PM by harvib
reply to post by SteveR





We are not bailing out the elite...
...we make sure you get everything you need when you need it.
If we give you $7000...


Since it sounds like you are so intimately tied to the financial decisions of this Country, I have a question. If it is the record foreclosure that are causing bank failures. Why don't "you" bail out the home owners to avoid having to bail out the banks?


reply posted on 26-9-2008 @ 03:58 PM by SteveR
reply to post by Maxmars



If I wanted the Ron Paul talking points explained like it is gospel, I would call Ron Paul.


reply posted on 26-9-2008 @ 04:08 PM by Sheridan
reply to post by SteveR


You really that brainwashed or you're working for the government.

Now, here is the deal. The banks caused this, so no one should bail them out at all. They caused all the problem, they should sink in the drain. The banks are causing this all over the world, because they're greedy.

Believe me, the world would be a much better place without any sort of Zionist Banks. We don't need banks. We don't need Zionists. To hell with both of them. If they don't want to go, we will send them to there.


reply posted on 26-9-2008 @ 04:18 PM by pieman
reply to post by Sheridan



banks are a bit like women in that regard, can't live with em, the government won't let you kill 'em... seriously, a great social experiment is all well and good, but realistically, the system has now changed regardless.

i've no issue if the bankers were all taken out and lined up against a wall, but the banks as institutions are pretty important to the stability of our lives.
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