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Topic started on 26-9-2008 @ 01:41 PM by DimensionalDetective

Whitehouse Threatens Veto of Second Stimulus Over Food Stamps & Unemployment Benefits


thinkprogress.org
Today, the White House Office of Management and Budget (OMB) released a statement of administrative policy today recommending Bush veto a proposed second stimulus package. The $56.2 billion package, announced yesterday, would extend unemployment benefits for seven weeks, increase food stamp benefits by 10 percent, and provide $50 million for food banks, among other proposals. This afternoon, Senate conservatives successfully blocked the bill, as the motion to proceed won 52 votes, eight shy of the necessary 60.

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reply posted on 26-9-2008 @ 02:07 PM by Pinktip
reply to post by Mercenary2007





thehill.com...

Didn't we just have another stimulous package a couple months ago?
Did it help?
How many more do you want?
This is a stunt by the Dems for political cover of their support for the $700B plan.
.02c


reply posted on 26-9-2008 @ 02:50 PM by DimensionalDetective
reply to post by RRconservative



LOL, when theres 50,000 less jobs with each consecutive month, how exactly is that going to be MORE helpful? The economy is in the toilet, and so is hiring. If you want an a lovely, outsourced, overseas, slave-labor occupation, then opportunities are rife I suppose.



reply posted on 26-9-2008 @ 03:08 PM by dawnstar
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
It's clear where Bush's priorities are. That's pretty sick.

Originally posted by drsmooth23
AS LONG AS PEOPLE ARE GIVEN THINGS THEY WILL NEVER LEARN HOW TO EARN THEM FOR THEMSELVES.


Good point! Let the CEOs that Bush is trying to bail out learn how to run a business for themselves!

I know some people abuse food stamps, but trust me, there are people out there who are using them correctly and the system is helping them get back on their feet. I don't believe they should be punished because of the abusers.


not to mention, alot of the food stamp recipients do have jobs...the jobs just pay crap! don't like food stamps, unemployment benefits, fine....don't give $700 billion dollars out to a bunch of educated fools who ran our economy into the dust either!
personally, I'd rather feed the kid, I am sure those educated fools have plenty of food, and money, whatever they need to survive, even if their companies crash and burn!
but, either everyone, including those in the business sector is held accountable and faces the music of their bad decisions, or well, why bother holding anyone accountable...heck, maybe I will just be as unresponsible as these guys on wall street or our elected officials were, run my c redit card up, borrow and borrow, start screwing around at work let the work sit there, get fired, and whine to be bailed out too! why not. seems like everytime my family gets itself in a halfway comfy position some fool in washington has to come along and blow it to hades anyways.
tell ya what, I want my healthcare dangit!! sick and tire of having to work while I am sick and tired!! they have a choice, either cut the medicaid or extend it so that everybody who needs the help gets it...
they have about one year to do it, maybe less...
then they can kiss my taxdollars good bye!
along with the revenue they get from the sales tax on things I purchase.
I am sick and tired of this scam that they call a economy!


reply posted on 26-9-2008 @ 03:35 PM by nyk537
reply to post by Ellipsis



Sorry, but you're dead wrong.

I've been through times where I've gone weeks without eating lunch at work, and my wife and I have shared dinner so that our daughter could get extra snacks and things that she liked.

I've never once asked the government to help me and I never will.

When we got into those tough times I found a second job, or I did odd jobs for friends and family and earned my way.

To say that anyone who opposes this has never been in that situation is foolish. I'm living proof of that.



reply posted on 26-9-2008 @ 03:42 PM by Ellipsis
reply to post by nyk537



I am not wrong.

You may have struggled a bit, but unless you know what it actually feels like to have literally nothing, you don't understand the desperation it takes to ask for help.

You had to skip lunch? Have you ever had to skip whole days worth of food so your child can eat at all, not just so she can have snacks she likes?

You have your wife to help. What about those who are single and supporting their children all alone? They should suffer in these economic times without help?

I don't know what to say when people are so cold and seriously devoid of support or sympathy for others.


reply posted on 26-9-2008 @ 04:02 PM by Ellipsis
reply to post by nyk537



There is a difference between helping and what you are saying.

Let's use an analogy.

The people who need welfare have broken their legs, they are literally laying on the ground asking for help because they cannot walk.

So we as good, common, decent human beings do not walk by them and say it is their problem and why cant they walk when we can.

Instead we give them crutches ( welfare ) to support them and help them to heal so one day they can walk again without the crutches.

In turn they pay into the system and their money goes to supporting other people who break their legs and need crutches.

Some people become paralyzed for life and need wheelchairs. ( still using the analogy, although handicapped people are in the system ) We can't let them rot away either so we support them for life.

Do you see what I am saying?

Some people literally CANNOT help themselves for whatever reason. We cannot and should not deny them basic human necessities.

It's not a difficult thing to grasp.

Your constantly acting like the people on the programs are already walking and only want crutches because then they don't have to walk. Thats why we have a system in place to validate the need of the crutches.

Denying them extra support when cost of living and life and food has increased is nothing short of selfish and wrong.


reply posted on 26-9-2008 @ 07:57 PM by drsmooth23
reply to post by Ellipsis



if you seriously ever need food that much you should go to a local church, fire department, or even a womans shelter. also jobs at diners and restaurants are good. especially if they are mon and pop operations because they are pretty nice about mothers letting their well behaved kids hang out and do school work and color while you work.

this is more of a matter for the local communities and NOT the federal government. if your city lacks ANY of the above described structures and facilities, then get on the phone with your elected officials.

THE MORE WE ASK BIG BROTHER TO HELP US THE MORE LIBERTIES THEY WILL RELIVE YOU OF.
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