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Can anyone define what God is?

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posted on Dec, 7 2008 @ 10:09 AM
I think what The Matrix Traveller is conveying is that the Initial Impetus is not constricted to a 'zionist' description, nor is it actualized as 'sacred,' as evinced in the term, "sacred" geometry.

Inner light (direct connect) reveals that this Substance-Force is not 'sacred' and requisite of mindless, blind worship, but is an inconceivable-inexplicable-unknowable pre-existent state (can be called the Word), whereupon the condition of Awareness is engendered by an Aliveness which can be termed Prime Creator. Sets and definitions do not apply. It is most clearly encountered via knowing the Archetypal Geometric Framework: the Arc, the Circle, the Triangle, the Square.

Humanity chose to set up blind worship of this sensing of the Prime Creator, having it foisted upon them by higher minds (more evolved consciousness), and has remained in absolute ignorance for most of it's existence here on Earth.

It is known by infinite names, a popular one being "Jehovah," which is merely the male/masculine half of the Prime Creator Substance-Force, the Intrinsic Intelligence within the Pre-Existent Grid Framework better known as S/He (anagram).

So, throw off the yoke of the ruthless holders of secrets & knowledge, and embrace the inexplicable directly. Is this easy? Of course not: it is the infinite challenge. Dogma has no home here. As said, this knowing is free to everybody, but a word of explicit warning: this freedom potential of Direct-Connect is actively sought to being shut down in entirety by the Rulers of Earth & region. Should you play instead of work now, you may have no place to reincarnate and attain further opportunity. I wouldn't waste the gift.

[edit on 7-12-2008 by SS,Naga]

posted on Dec, 7 2008 @ 02:16 PM
reply to post by n0tsympl

I hope this will answer some of your Questions;

Your words Quote;

"As Above, So Below ... As Below, So Above"

My Answer;

But remember what is between these Two....

Below, Middle, and above.... 3 0sitions Not 2....

It comes from the Algorithm INZ

Or more correctly put the Algorithm INZ can be found in these 3...

Your words Quote;

"and Jesus may have been referring to a duel origin"

My Answer;

Actually there are Three Not Two....

Your words Quote;

There are actually 2 parts: The Above and The Below, The

One Mind and the One Thing... refer to Genesis...God created the heavens ( self manifest ),

My answer;

But The firmament divided the Water...

The Lower The upper Waters and The In between known as The firmament!

One of the understandings (part) found in the Word INZ is the section of the Algorithm;

"Two Similar One Different"!

The action though, is in INZ

The First "Conceptual Movement" of The True Mind was To & Fro, seen in the "I".

The Second "Conceptual Movement" was Round & Round or Rotation, seen in the "N" Rotating to become the "Z".

Your words Quote;

"then light ( The One Mind) before the sun..."

My Answer;

Yes Light came before The Sun, but "Light" also comes through "The Sun of Righteousness".

Light came out of the Darkness...

Darkness is Gray' Not Black....

It is Dark at Night but you can see and the darkness comprehend or apprehend it Not as it is written in the Roman collection of Hebrew and Greek Writings you call the bible!

The Two Components of Gray are Black & White.

Science today recognises Light as Not containing Black but this is absurd...

When we see a Black object we see the Black and You need Light to see...

If No Light a Hole would appear...

All Colours are in fact made from Black & White Not just White!

There is an old experiment from the 1950's If I remember correctly...

It was done when technicians were investigating different possibilities of producing colour TV.

But because of a lack of Understanding this part of a system was never used but just put aside. You can find this in History...

Not my invention....

[[ Make a disc of cardboard Half Black and Half White with a spindle through the Centre and place 3 black curved lines starting from the black extending into the white by perhaps 15 degrees.

The black lines should be about 1 to 2 mm line width and the gap between them to be the same.

Now spin the disc slowly like a child's "spinning top"

In one Direction Red is seen in the arc of the Black Lines.

Now spin the disc in the other Direction and it turns Blue instead of red....

Spin the disc slowly though...

Where does the Red come from and where does the Blue come from and why are these two colours produced according to their direction of rotation? ]]

Your words Quote;

"The One Mind is the light of reason"

My answer;

Phos, in Greek translation is Not "Reason"... Phos in Greek, is "Sun Light" or any other "Light" from a Star, or Meteor etc...

I hope this answers your Questions....


posted on Dec, 7 2008 @ 02:25 PM
reply to post by SS,Naga

You have hit the nail right on the head as to say.

What you have said is 101% True, including the warning at the end...

Just taking a little rest, after 16 years of Non stop work and making use of the time, but don't worry I will resume my work during the Day...
And night.

It has been 24 / 7 for many years without time off.. LOL, but point taken thank you once again.

Hope to meet you soon...

posted on Dec, 15 2008 @ 11:45 PM

Nothing like a human or any other personage is it ???

Also known as the House of David.

The 6 pointed Star is The Root of David!

This Zionic font in the Drawing above "G. O. D." is an Geometric Algorithm!

And Not what is Believed today, in Roman Doctrine, Falsely called "Christianity" Today!

The Word "G. O. D." is a Component made from "The Geometric Algorithm" "!NZ" by "The True Mind" or "Consciousness of God", or "Life of God"!

That is, The Life In "The Geometric Algorithm" named "G. O. D."

This has Two parts Also, What it is Made of and what it Does....

It is Made of Light!

Its nature is "Dynamic" thus being said to be "Alive".

So The Life of The Word "G. O. D." is said to be Light that Moves, Not as in Velocity but Movement within the Geometric Algorithm.

Often it is said That "The Life of God is The Light of Man that Lights Every Man that comes into the World"!

But we must bear in Mind that Man is The Name given to Every Soul!

Not The Pictures of Human primates, or any other animals, or species, that is manifested inside the Holographic Nature of The Soul.

This is Consciousness The True Mind, because it can compare things and take action within its self and is Not of Flesh or The Brain!!!

This was formed from the 2 first Conceptual movements of The True Mind.

I will Show this later in another Post, once I get my sizes right., in my Drawings... LOL..

All is of The One Conscious State.

What you call your Mind is actually a Droplet of The True Mind.

All have access to The True Mind.

Many forms are only program.

Some interface with Life some Don't...

Only the Living can Know "The True Mind"!

[edit on 16-12-2008 by The Matrix Traveller]

posted on Dec, 16 2008 @ 09:46 PM
reply to post by The Matrix Traveller

By The Matrix Traveller
Hold it Right There SaintlyMic,

I will save you a lot of Grief by cautioning you...

You are Making False Judgement and False Condemnation of Me.

For a start;

Read The Book Of John Chapter 10 verse 34.

Jesus answered them,

"Is it not written in your Law,

'I said, "Ye are Gods".

You do not understand what it was I was saying.
You took it as an attack, which it was not, and was not my intention at all.

When Jesus stated that mankind had been called "gods" Jesus in no way meant that we were God.
The scriptures clearly say "god(s)" with a lower case "g" not "God" with an upper case "G".
There is a huge difference between God and god. You confuse the two and try to intertwine the two together.
God never said we were GODS, and what God said when He said we were gods is that we are "like" gods.

No where in scripture does God say that there are any gods with Him.
No where in scripture does God say we are a "part" of God.
In fact God declares that He "ALONE" is God and that there are no other gods (or GODS) with Him.

Here are some scriptures that show this fact, since you are trying to quote scripture.

Quotes from Scripture

Isaiah 44:24 – Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;
(Revelation 10:5-7 / 14:6-7)

Joel 2:27 – I am the LORD your God, and none else:

Isaiah 45:5-6 – I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me...there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.

1Kings 8:60 – (Let all the people of the earth know) that the LORD is God, and that there is none else.

Deuteronomy 6:4 - ...The LORD our God is one LORD...

Deuteronomy 4:39 - ...there is none else...(Only God).

Malachi 2:10 – Only ONE God and Father created us.

2 Kings 19:15, 19 - ...O LORD God of Israel...even thou the LORD God, even thou only.

Psalm 86:10 - ...thou art God alone.
(Isaiah 26:2-4)

Deuteronomy 4:35 - ...the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him.
(God alone is God – 2 Samuel 7:22)

Deuteronomy 32:39 – See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me:
(what is not with God? - John 1:1)

Isaiah 43:10-11 - ...believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be another formed after me. I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
(2 Corinthians 5:14-21)

Isaiah 45:15 – Verily thou art a God that hidest thyself, O God of Israel, the Saviour.
(Isaiah 45:18-24)

Isaiah 40:25 – To whom then will ye liken me, or shall I be equal? Saith the Holy One.
(God Almighty is ONE God)

Hosea 13:4 – thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.
(Luke 2:1-40 & Isaiah 7:14 / 9:6)

Isaiah 44:8 - ...Is there a God beside me? No, there is no God; I know not any.
(Isaiah 12:1-6)

Isaiah 46:9 – Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none else like me,
(Acts 4:8-14 & Isaiah 28:14-19)

1 Samuel 2:2 – There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God.
(1 Corinthians 10:1-4) – God is indivisible & individual.


Matthew 23:9 – And call no man your father upon the earth; for one is your father, which is in heaven.
(John 3:12-18)

John 8:41 – The Jews said, "we have one Father, even God; and there is none other God but one."
(1 Corinthians 8:4)

Mark 12:29, 32-34 – And Jesus answered the scribe, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: And the scribe said unto Jesus, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: For there is one God; and there is none other but he: And when Jesus saw that the scribe answered deceitfully, Jesus said unto the scribe, Thou art not far from the kingdom of God.
(for the kingdom is ruled by HE who talks to you, now!)
(Matthew 4:17 & John 3:3 & Deuteronomy 6:4-7)

Isaiah 48:11-12 - ...I will not give my glory unto another...I am he; I am the first, I also am the last.
(Revelation 1:8 / 21:22-23)

Malachi 3:16 - ...a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.

Zechariah 14:9 - that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.
(Revelation 17:14 / 19:11-16 & Acts 4:10-12)

Philippians 2:11 - ...every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the Glory of God the Father.
(For our confessions should glorify JESUS to that extent)
(Revelation 4:1-11 / 21:5-7)

Revelation 1:11 – Jesus said, I AM ALPHA AND OMEGA, THE FIRST AND THE LAST;
(Revelation 22:12, 13, 16)

Isaiah 44:6 – God said, I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.
(Jeremiah 32:17-20 / 31:35-36 / 23:5-8)

Romans 3:29-30 – Is he God of the Jews only? Is he not also God of the Gentiles? Yes, he is God of the Gentiles also: Seeing he is one God, who shall justify both...Jew and Gentile...

1 Timothy 2:5-6 – For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due season.
(Acts 20:28)

Galatians 3:20 – Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.

1 Corinthians 8:6 – But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
(Revelation 21:1-7 & Hebrews 2:10)

Ephesians 4:4-6 – There is one (begotten) body, and one (Holy) Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord (Jesus), one faith (in the Lord Jesus), one baptism (by Jesus' Spirit), One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
(Colossians 2:6-12 & Galatians 3:21-27, 29)

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

WHO IS THIS ONE GOD that we must love with all our heart, soul, mind, and strength? Who is the only ONE we are to worship, and the only ONE we are to serve? The Bible answers in Jeremiah 10:10, "But the LORD is the true God, he is the living God, and an everlasting king:". And in Acts 9:5, Saul asked the question, "Who art thou Lord?". And the Lord said, "I am Jesus whom thou persecutest:"

So, JESUS is the Lord, and the Lord Jesus is the true God.

posted on Dec, 16 2008 @ 09:47 PM
reply to post by The Matrix Traveller

By The Matrix Traveller
I quote your Words:

"Study Jesus and you will know God much better than you could have ever imagined possible! Instead of criticizing Jesus, you should be studying Him! Study is only the first step. "

Now You Condemn Me because I have sat at Jesus's Table at The Marriage Supper and ate and Drank wine with him.

This is The Truth and Testimony that I went to The Marriage Supper with Jesus Christ as My Witness.

My knowledge was given to me Directly By Jesus Christ as in Person to Person.

If you Condemn me You Condemn Jesus Christ, as I am a witness of Him!

Ask Jesus Christ My Lord, Saviour and King, and If He wishes to Answer you,
He will tell You The Truth.

Again, I have not condemned you.
You are feeling condemned because I do not agree with YOUR PERCEPTION of "what" YOU SAY God is.

You have several times agreed with other people, and said they were right 100%, when they said God is us or we are God, or God is just some force or a combination of all human minds.

We are NOT God.
We are NOT a "part" of God either.
And, God is NOT in every one of us.

As I said before, God ALONE is God, and we are His creation.
When you say we are God in any way you are claiming that we are ALSO God.
We are not God in any way, form, or fashion.

Only those who trust in Jesus and are Born Again have God IN them.
Those of us who are Born Again have God IN us.
The other humans who reject Christ Jesus are also rejecting Who God is.
Since Jesus is the only ONE Who is God that means that every other being has been created BY and THROUGH Jesus Christ.

If Jesus were yours you would not agree with most of these people who have no idea Who God is.
I've read many of these posts, and as far as I can tell not one person has exclusively claimed that Jesus ALONE is God exclusively.
If there has been anyone who said this then PRAISE THE LORD!
But, if anyone does not claim that Jesus is God, and the only ONE Who is God, then that person has no true idea WHO God is.

Again, God is NOT a "what"; God is a "HE"; and God revealed Himself as a He by becoming a human man in gender.

As for the marriage supper of the Lamb...
That supper has NOT come to pass, so your claim of attending a feast of the Lamb is NOT warranted because "that feast" has not come to pass, yet.
That feast will not take place until the Saints that should die for Christ should be fulfilled.
Not all Saints that should die for Christ have all died, yet.

Many Saints are still going to have to die by the authority of the antichrist.
Until that happens the marriage supper of the Lamb will not take place.
When those who are destined to die actually die, then the marriage supper of the Lamb will take place.

So, you have no occasion of blaming me for not accepting you, because you claim to have attended something that I myself am still waiting to happen.
Jesus has not held this feast, so you cannot truthfully claim to have attended it; and you cannot rightfully claim that you have been spoken to by Jesus at this feast.

I have asked Jesus about you, and Jesus comforts me telling me that if I should accept anyone's testimony which asserts or confirms many of the claims and beliefs made in this forum that I would be wrong to do so.

Jesus tells ME personally that He ALONE is God, and that we are created by Him.
Here are scriptures showing Jesus is God Almighty!

Scriptures from the Holy Bible

Isaiah 43:10-11 - ...Thus saith the LORD...I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be another formed after me. I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.

Isaiah 40:3, 5 – Prepare ye the way of the LORD, and the glory of the LORD shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together:
(Matthew 3:1-3 & Revelation 1:7-8)

Isaiah 9:6 – For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called WONDERFUL, COUNCELLOR, THE MIGHTY GOD, THE EVERLASTING FATHER, THE PRINCE OF PEACE.
(Exodus 15:2-3, 6)

Isaiah 7:14 – they shall call Christ's name Immanuel.

Matthew 1:23 - ...they shall call Christ's name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, GOD WITH US.
(Mark 14:62)

Genesis 1:1 – In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
(Genesis 1:27-31 / 2:1-3 & Matthew 26:64)

Colossians 1:16 – For by JESUS were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth...

John 1:1-5, 9-12, 14 – In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. That Word was the true light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. He who was that light was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

1 John 5:8 – And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit of Christ, the water of Christ, and the blood of Christ: and these three agree in one.
(These three are three in one)

1 John 5:7 – For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: these three are one.
(These three are not three in one: these three are one)

John 8:58 – Jesus said unto the Jews that believed on Him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was I AM.
(Jesus is the I AM who spoke with Moses in Exodus 3:13-15)
(1 Corinthians 10:1-4 & Romans 1:16)

John 20:28 – And Thomas answered and said unto Jesus, My Lord and my God.
(Luke 22:69)

John 10:30 – Jesus saying, I and my Father are one.


Revelation 1:8, 11 – I am ALPHA and OMEGA, the BEGINNING and the ENDING, saith the LORD JESUS, which is, and which was, and which is to come, THE ALMIGHTY.
(Acts 4:10-12)

Colossians 2:9 – For in Jesus dwelleth all the fullness of the GODHEAD bodily.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

Jesus is clearly God Almighty!

posted on Dec, 16 2008 @ 09:50 PM
"GOD" is what remains after the idea of a self is abandoned.

posted on Dec, 16 2008 @ 10:14 PM
Cripes! Who let the dogma fanatic loose?

I say jesu is a figment of your imagination.

'God' is not God; it's Prime Creatoress. That's right, S/He.

You've a right to your mind programming, that much is understood & well maintained by the jesu cult(s).

No need to think, to connect-direct, when they are happy to think for you.

I met a creepy character when I was 7 yrs. old, came to my window in wide waking consciousness, second floor; I came over to the window, and it told me it was jesu. Guess what, 'talks to jesu?' It was a shapeshifter, just like the one you're enamored of. Then, I grew up, decided to find the answers. Got tired of the molesting priests & child-burying nuns, lies 6-7 days a week.

Developed Direct-Connect to the AllSoul.

Please take that stuff out & flush it, where it belongs. Piles of it remain fouling up the planet with falsification & mind control. Fanatics will always exist, and happily kill for such blind belief's as the untold dogmatists's sell.

The Truth does not need to have anyone kill for it.

Don't forget to pay that 10%, or you're soul could be in jeopardy.

You dogmatists should have your own planet, and us one for the Truth. Then, in the future, you could attack our planet and attempt to destroy the Truth for more dogma converts (under coercion). Wouldn't that be fun?

And let's not pay any attention to the apocryphyl writings,, no.

Possibly exorcism might help to rid the imagination of the infesting entity.

Perhaps one day we can say good riddance to this stuff.

posted on Dec, 16 2008 @ 10:58 PM
A continuation from post by SaintlyMic

Here is more that explains how and why Jesus is God Almighty!

This is both scripture and an explanation of the scripture

God has given us more than 456 PROPHECIES that point to His MESSIANIC MANIFESTATION. Over 321 PROPHECIES are separate and unmistakable. The probability of only 20 of these PROPHECIES being fulfilled in just ONE MAN is 1 Quadrillion, 125 Trillion to 1. Jesus fulfilled them ALL, except those to come.


Matthew 16:13 - How could Jesus Christ be God Almighty when He was the Son of Man?

John 3:16 – How could Jesus Christ be God Almighty when He was the Son of God?
(Luke 1:35)

Matthew 1:20 – How could Jesus Christ be God Almighty when He was begotten by the Holy Spirit of God?

1 Timothy 3:16 – And without controversy great is the mystery of GODLINESS: God was manifest in the FLESH, God was justified in the SPIRIT, God was seen of ANGELS, God was preached unto the GENTILES, God was believed on in the WORLD, God was received up into GLORY.

John 4:24 – Almighty God is a SPIRIT.

Luke 24:39 – A SPIRIT hath not FLESH and BONES.

Jeremiah 23:5-6 – But GOD'S WORD became FLESH.

John 1:1, 14 – The Lord God Almighty became FLESH.

God throughout the old testament did not have a human body, until His Word became FLESH. Instead, God appeared and manifested Himself to people in different ways: such as when God appeared to Moses as FIRE in the bush that was not consumed by fire. God also appeared as a CLOUD by day and a PILLAR OF FIRE by night to protect the Children of Israel.

John 1:18 - Before Jesus was born no one had ever seen God at any time. God had remained unseen by all men.

Jeremiah 32:27 – GOD THE ETERNAL SPIRIT is the Father of the flesh; this makes Jesus THE SON OF GOD.
(Luke 1:30-35)

Genesis 2:7 – The LORD GOD formed Adam of the dust of the ground without the aid of a father nor a mother, and Eve was formed from just one of Adam's ribs.

Luke 1:26-38 - So, why would it seem such an impossible thing for GOD THE ETERNAL SPIRIT to overshadow a virgin named Mary and make Himself a human body?
(Isaiah 9:6-7)

Matthew 1:16-25 - Although it was not Joseph's seed that made Jesus, Joseph had to be David's direct descendant so Mary could LEGALLY ACQUIRE David's family name. So, Jesus was called THE SON OF MAN because He was born into Joseph's family; this made Jesus David's legal heir.
(Luke 3:23-38)

John 1:19-37 - The LAMB OF GOD'S FLESH was offered in death as the atonement for the sins of the world.
(Isaiah 53 & Revelation 5)

Colossians 2:9 – For in Jesus dwelleth all the fullness of the GODHEAD bodily.

Colossians 1:15 – Jesus is the image of the INVISIBLE GOD.

Luke 24:36-43 – As a man Jesus ate; as God Jesus multiplied bread and fish. As a man Jesus slept in the boat; as God Jesus arose and calmed the stormy waves. As a man Jesus prayed at the grave of Lazarus; as God Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead. As a man Jesus spent nights in prayer; as God Jesus forgave sins and performed great miracles. As a man Jesus died; as God Jesus raised Himself from the dead.
(John 2:19)

Colossians 2:9 – Jesus is both God and Man, Spirit and Flesh in ONE IMAGE/ONE BODY.
(Jesus is Mind, Soul, Spirit, and Flesh!)

John 3:13 – Jesus declared Himself to be in heaven and in earth at the same time.
(Only God Almighty can be OMNIPRESENT!)

Micah 5:2 – He who was born in Bethlehem was from everlasting.

Acts 20:28 – Almighty God purchased us with His OWN BLOOD.

Isaiah 44:24 – If God is not One Person, then Jesus cannot be the LORD GOD; for only One Lord can be THE ONLY TRUE GOD.


Rev.19:6 – Jesus is LORD OF LORDS; so is God.

Acts 3:14 – Jesus is the Holy One; and so is God.

Rev.1:7-8 – Jesus is the Almighty; and so is God.

Phil.2:10 – Every knee will bow to Jesus & to God.

Acts 4:10-12 – Jesus is the Saviour; so is God.

1Cor.10:4 – Jesus is the ROCK; and so is God.
(Psalm 18:31)

Luke 1:68 – Jesus is the redeemer; so is God.

Rev.22:13 – Jesus is the first and last; so is God.

Matt.25:31-46 – Jesus is coming; so is God.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

Notice here that Jesus is clearly and completely God Almighty.
These scriptures in no way tell us that we are somehow a "part" of God.
In fact, nowhere in scripture are we told that we are a "part" of the mind consciousness of God Almighty.
We are created to have a UNIQUE Mind, Soul, and Spirit.
We are also given UNIQUE bodies of flesh with which our Spiritual parts reside.

I will explain further in my next post.
We must first understand our existence if we are ever going to understand God's Existence.
Once we have a grasp of how we are made then we can begin to understand how God exists.

Although God has existed forever He does have composition.
God has parts, and God created us to be in His LIKENESS and His IMAGE.
What exactly is God's Image and Likeness?
In the next post I will explain this as well.

God is NOT a being who is INCOMPREHENSIBLE.
God's WAYS are higher than our ways, and God's understanding is far greater than our understanding.
But, KNOWING God is NOT incomprehensible.
Knowing God's composition is NOT incomprehensible.

God is teaching us how He exists as a being.
Although God is NOT a created being, He has NOT made Himself impossible to understand.
What is a mystery is the fact that He has existed without a beginning.
But, what is NOT a mystery is that He will exist forever.
Because God has made us capable of grasping Eternity.
BY letting us KNOW the concept of LIVING FOREVER!

Eternity is the easy part to grasp, but the concept of no beginning is almost impossible to fathom.
This is what turns so many away from God, because it is difficult to imagine a being that has no beginning.

In my next posts I will not touch on God having no beginning, because I cannot explain that about God.
God has not given any of us the capacity to understand existence without a beginning.
This must be accepted by faith.
And, if that is something you do not want to touch then that is ok with God.
God only asks that you believe in HIM as your God.
God only desires that you put your trust and faith in Him to take care of your every need.
But, for many, this also is a difficult concept to grasp.

Onward we go ...

[edit on 12/16/2008 by SaintlyMic]

posted on Dec, 16 2008 @ 11:24 PM
Yes, they churchists preach that stuff, and it has worked well.

Spanish Inquisition, world domination, feed the rich, let the poor suffer; yes, well.

Apparently they got a certain 'saintly' person into their mind-eradicator machine, and did an overwipe job.

Now, it's time for his church gospel, straight from the pulpit.

Do any here see this, or am I alone? This is how the world was subverted into a dark satanic worship of ignorance: ruthlessly, blindly, madly; no reason even existing to be dealt with: just blind, mad, insane domination:

Our jesu is god; you will stop worshipping what you worship, immediately, and worship blindly as we tell you.



In fact, no Mind is involved: just worship as We TELL YOU, and give us your money. Got that?


No wonder this planet is such Hell. The Insane, most ruthless force on it, runs it: who is willing to kill the most for their God?

WE WILL, scream the jesu-fanatics.

Yeah, we got that.

[edit on 16-12-2008 by SS,Naga]

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posted on Dec, 17 2008 @ 12:01 AM
Continuation by post by SaintlyMic

Yes, I suppose, to many of you, I am a fanatic, and one who trusts in a God made up by humans before us.
But, I tell you now, I do not simply and blindly follow after what someone tells me.
I am where I am, and I believe what I believe, because of what others have shared concerning their relationship with Jesus Christ.

But, I do not just believe in Jesus blindly.
Jesus lives inside of me, and He confirms His existence by showing me what to say, what to think, and sometimes what I should wear or eat.
I am not always wanting to hear Jesus by the evidence that I SOMETIMES make wrong decisions and SOMETIMES say the wrong things.
This only supports His existence even more because He reminds me and reveals to me what He actually desired of me.
Jesus exists and He confirms His existence by directing His Children in the way we should go.

The following is an explanation of how Jesus is God and how He exists as a being.
I hope that you will be as attentive to what Jesus has asked me to say as you have given ear to other explanations of "what" God is.
Again, God is NOT a "what", God is an individual who created us all.

I am quoting from what I have already written elsewhere not on ATS ...

The Messianic Theology Of Jesus Christ!


The most important thing concerning Messianic Theology is the fact that God is an individual and not a group of three people. As was spoken of in the first tract we learned that God ALONE is God Almighty. There is not anyone else with God who is also God.

To say that three different people make God complete is to say that God shares His Godly individuality with other individuals, and this is just not true. God does not have THREE Minds, nor does He have THREE Souls, nor even THREE Holy Spirits!

Spiritually, God IS a trinity. God is a trinity of parts, but not a trinity of persons. Every part of God is as diverse as a person's brain is from a person's eyes, yet each part of God can communicate as if each part were an individual person. This is what makes God so unique. Every part of God is intelligent, wise, and has purpose. We on the other hand are not made this way. Our arm cannot communicate with our eyes, and our noses cannot talk with our feet. Yet every part of God in the Spirit can communicate with each other. Also, every part of God cannot exist without each other, and each part is in perfect relation.

God has a Mind. God's Mind rules all that He is. God's Word is God's Soul, and is subject to God's Mind. God's Soul obeys God's Mind. Then you have God's Spirit which obeys both God's Mind and God's Soul. All three parts of God work together to bring about God's will. This is the most important thing to remember concerning God. God has ONE Mind, ONE Soul, and ONE Spirit.

This is not widely taught, and this is not understood by many, but it makes perfect sense. God is a trinity consisting of a Mind, a Soul, and a Spirit. We are made to be just like God, except our parts do not communicate with each other like God's parts do.


God has made us to have parts just like his parts. Spiritually we have been given three parts which make our human bodies function and work. Without our spiritual parts we would not live. And, our spiritual parts are enclosed in a body of flesh with which we can see, feel, hear, touch, and smell. But our spiritual parts are not visible, nor can we touch them. But, if we ask God, He can help us to spiritually hear, see, and discern our spiritual parts.

We have been given a mind, a soul, and a spirit. Each part has a specific purpose, and God can communicate with each part if we let Him. Our minds rule our souls and spirits. Our minds also direct our thoughts and actions. Our souls hold our minds and our spirits. And the human spirit is given by God to give everyone life. All our parts communicate one with another, but we cannot consciously control each part. Only God can command each of His parts to do His will using His Mind!

So, we have been created to be like God spiritually, and God has given each of us flesh to hold our spiritual parts. Our flesh resembles our spiritual parts. God has made our flesh so that we may look, feel, and learn what is happening in the spirit. If you watch closely enough you can see what is happening to you in the spirit. In fact, what happens to you in the spirit can be felt in the nervous system of your body!


God has made our flesh in a way that directly reflects how our spiritual parts work together. Our brains resemble our minds, because our brains command the whole body. Our body itself resembles our souls, because it holds everything together. And the nervous system and the parts that control blood flow resemble our human spirits, because they sustain life. It has already been proven that a body can be kept alive even when the brain is dead. Machines can keep the body functioning for years!

So, as you can see, God has created us to resemble Him in every way, except the ability to control our spiritual parts mentally.


EVERYTHING!!! All this relates to Jesus Christ being God Almighty! We must understand how we are made IF we are going to understand how Jesus Christ is God Almighty!

We must understand that God has parts, just as we have parts, IF we are going to understand how Jesus Christ is God Almighty. Without this understanding we will never be able to comprehend how Jesus is God Almighty! We must understand these things in order that we may comprehend the Divinity of Jesus Christ!

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

Continued ...

[edit on 12/17/2008 by SaintlyMic]

posted on Dec, 17 2008 @ 12:01 AM
Continued by post by SaintlyMic

The Messianic Theology Of Jesus Christ!


Many are teaching that God consists of three individuals: a Father, a Son, and a Holy Ghost. It is true that God has a Father, a Son, and a Holy Ghost, but they are not persons as is being taught in churches today. They are only parts; not persons.

You may be asking or wondering, "How can this be?".

You are asking or wondering this because you are looking at God's flesh as an individual separate from God. But, the Son is not, nor has ever been, another individual. God's flesh is an extension of God Almighty. God's flesh represents who God is in the Spirit!

Just as you or I have been given a body to resemble our spiritual parts, God has given himself a body to resemble His spiritual parts. So, God's body is an extension of Himself.

Let's look at God's parts in how they relate to the terms Father, Son, and Holy Ghost. The Father is God's Mind. The Son is God's Soul. And, the Holy Ghost is God's Holy Spirit, or we can simply just say, "Spirit". (Because every part of God is HOLY!)

The Father is God's Mind because God's will starts in God's Mind. God's Mind also rules every other part of God Almighty. God's Mind is the Father because it is from the Mind of God that all things were created! God Almighty created ALL things!!!

The Son is God's Soul because the Soul both houses God's Mind and Spirit, and God's Soul is the place in God which God's heart and emotions reside. God's Soul is where God gets His feelings. God's Soul obeys and follows after the will of God's Mind. God's Soul is also God's Spiritual Image of God's Spiritual Self.

The Spirit of God is God's Spirit. The Spirit of God is the Life of God, and the power of God. God's Spirit is commanded by God's Mind and Soul to accomplish the will of God. Both the Soul and Spirit of God are used as God's arms, legs, hands, and feet!


Every part of Christ are God's parts. As I said before, God's flesh is simply an extension of Himself. Christ is God's physical representation of His Spiritual Self. All that Christ is in the flesh is what God is in the spirit. All that Christ is in the flesh resembles what Christ is in the spirit. Everything that is of Christ is of God Almighty. Christ functions on two planes. Christ functions in both the Spiritual plane and in the fleshly plane. Christ can function on two levels at the same time.

So, when we think of Christ we should be thinking of God, because God became flesh. God took on flesh and lived among us.

God made himself a human body and walked on this earth as a man. God lived His life as a man, and died as a man. God then resurrected His body back to life again. God is POWERFUL!!!


All of Christ's Spiritual parts existed eternally before He became flesh. Christ's Mind, Soul, and Spirit existed eternally before He became flesh.

All of Christ's Spiritual parts are God's parts. Christ's Mind is God's Mind. Christ's Soul is God's Soul. And Christ's Spirit is God's Spirit. All that Christ is in the Spirit is what God is in the Spirit. Christ and God are one and the same individual. God is Christ in the Spirit, and God is Christ in the flesh. God existed in spiritual form long before he became flesh.


Not all of God in the Spirit became flesh. Only one Spiritual part of God became flesh, and that Spiritual part was God's Word or God's Soul. God's Soul became flesh.

The other two Spiritual parts of God Almighty did not become flesh. God's Mind and Spirit did not become flesh. God's MIND and SPIRIT existed together with God's SOUL IN God's FLESH! You have all three of God's Spiritual parts dwelling together within God's flesh, but only God's Soul actually became flesh.


Just as God's Spiritual parts communicate one with another, God's flesh also communicates with God's other Spiritual parts. It is God's brain, in His flesh, that can clearly communicate with God's Mind, Soul, and Spirit. So, God's Brain is quite capable of communicating with all of God's Spiritual parts.


Since God became flesh He took on flesh and now his flesh is another part that has been added to himself. So, basically, God now has four parts. God has a Mind, a Soul, a Spirit, and a Body. And, all four parts work together to accomplish God's will. One day God will change us to be even more like the way he is now!

All our parts will communicate just as God's parts communicate!!!


Well, first of all, everyone knows that Jesus Christ was a man. And in Christian circles it is believed Christ is still in fleshly form. (Though that flesh has now become GLORIFIED due to the glorious regeneration and resurrection of Christ's body.)

As a man Christ Jesus had every human part just as every other human has fleshly parts. It is therefore concluded that Christ has had a Body, a Mind, a Soul, and a Spirit. Christ is therefore no different than any other human being ... except for one thing: All of Christ's Spiritual parts existed before anything else existed. Christ's flesh came much later in time and space.

We, on the other hand, were all created with a unique Body, Mind, Soul, and Spirit. Our spiritual parts were created just as our fleshly parts were created, but this is not so with Jesus Christ. All of Christ's Spiritual parts existed Eternally long before God created anything. This is what makes Christ special and unique. He existed in the Spirit long before He made us. Then Christ added to Himself a human body so that He could live, die, and resurrect Himself for God's Glory, and for our salvation from sin! Although Christ does everything for His Father's Glory, He also did everything to deliver His created humans from their own sin! Christ's Blood, or God's Blood, was shed to cover our sins!
The following scriptures prove everything you have read so far.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

The next post will show scriptures which back up what you have read so far.
Thank you for taking the time to read what it is Jesus is showing me concerning Him being God and how He as a being exists as God.

Now for the scriptures ...

posted on Dec, 17 2008 @ 12:02 AM
Here are Scriptures that back up what you have read so far ... post by SaintlyMic

The Messianic Theology Of Jesus Christ!


Isaiah 9:6 – For unto us a child is born: unto us a son is given: and the government shall be on his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, THE MIGHTY GOD, THE EVERLASTING FATHER, The Prince of Peace.

Isaiah 7:14 – Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name IMMANUEL. (Which being interpreted is: GOD WITH US.)

Matthew 1:23 – Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name EMMANUEL, which being interpreted is, GOD WITH US.

John 1:1-4, 10-14, 16-18 – In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and THE WORD WAS GOD. The same was in the beginning with God. ALL THINGS WERE MADE BY HIM; and without him was not anything made that was made. IN HIM WAS LIFE; and the life was the light of men. He was in the world, and THE WORLD WAS MADE BY HIM, and the world knew him not. He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, EVEN TO THEM THAT BELIEVE ON HIS NAME: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, BUT OF GOD. AND THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH, AND DWELT AMONG US, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of THE ONLY BEGOTTEN OF THE FATHER,) full of grace and truth. And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace. For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten son, WHICH IS IN THE BOSOM OF THE FATHER, he hath declared him.

Jeremiah 23:5-6 – Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS. (Christ is ALWAYS known as THE LORD!!!)

Acts 20:28 – Take heed therefore, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, WHICH HE HATH PURCHASED WITH HIS OWN BLOOD. (God has PURCHASED us with His SHED BLOOD!!!)


Leviticus 26:11 - And I (God) will set MY TABERNACLE among you: and MY SOUL shall not abhor you. (Tabernacle is HIS flesh!)

Leviticus 26:30 - And I (God) will destroy your high places, and cut down your images (statues) and cast your carcases upon the carcases of your idols, and MY SOUL shall abhor you.

Job 23:13 - ... But he (God) is in ONE MIND, and who can turn him? And what HIS SOUL desireth, even that he doeth.
(This ALSO SHOWS that God Almighty has only ONE MIND!)

Psalm 11:5 – The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence HIS (THE LORD'S) SOUL hateth.

Isaiah 1:14 – Your new moons and your appointed feasts MY (God's) SOUL hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I (God) am weary to bear them. (God can get weary of disobedient children!)

Jeremiah 5:9, 29 & 9:9 – Shall I not visit for these things? Saith the LORD: and shall not MY SOUL be avenged on such a nation as this? (All three verses say the same exact things!)

Jeremiah 6:8 – Be thou instructed, O Jerusalem, lest MY (God's) SOUL depart from thee; lest I (God) make thee desolate, a land not inhabited. (God will make the disobedient desolate and lonely!)

Jeremiah 14:19 - Hast thou (God) utterly rejected Judah? Hath THY SOUL lothed Zion? Why has thou (LORD) smitten us, and there is no healing for us? We looked for peace, and there is no good: and for the time of healing, and behold trouble!

Jeremiah 32:41 – Yea, I (God) will rejoice over them to do them good, and I (God) will plant them in this land assuredly with MY WHOLE HEART and with MY WHOLE SOUL. (GOD'S SOUL!)

Zechariah 11:8 – Three shepherds also I (God) cut off in one month: and MY SOUL lothed them, and THEIR SOUL also abhorred me (God). (God's emotions reside in God's SOUL!)

Matthew 12:18 – Behold my servant (Jesus Christ), whom I (God) have chosen; my beloved, IN WHOM MY SOUL is well pleased: I (God) will put MY SPIRIT upon him, and he (Christ Jesus) shall shew judgment to the Gentiles. (Christ is God's Son in the flesh!)

Philippians 2:5-6, 8-11 – Let this MIND (Of God) be IN you, which was also IN Christ Jesus: Who, being in the FORM OF GOD, THOUGHT IT NOT ROBBERY to be EQUAL WITH GOD: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him (Christ), and given him a name which is above every name: that at THE NAME OF JESUS every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in the earth, and things under the earth; and that every tongue should confess that JESUS CHRIST IS LORD, to the glory of God the Father.

Please visit the link provided for the complete story.

Well, that my friends is how and why Jesus Christ is God Almighty.
And, this is how God exists as a being and as an individual.

I have been studying these things since 1988, and there are many other things I am in the process of studying.

I by all means do not know everything about God.
Jesus is still teaching me.
But, I do know a lot about Jesus, and I know a lot more than many have even attempted to try to know.

What moves me?
What drives me?
What keeps me moving forward?

My desire to know Jesus.
My desire to know how God exists as an individual and a being.

One day I will see God face to face.
And, when I see Jesus face to face I KNOW He will reveal as much about Himself to me just as much as He already knows about me.
I will one day know Him just as He knows me!
He has told us this in the scriptures!

What is MY hope?
I wait for Jesus to bring me home to Him so that I may live with Him for Eternity!

May The LORD JESUS Bless You Richly!

[edit on 12/17/2008 by SaintlyMic]

posted on Dec, 17 2008 @ 02:36 AM
reply to post by SS,Naga

Thank you so much my Friend, you have said it all for me, so there is no point me adding anything to your Words of Wisdom.

Honestly I wonder why we bother at times????

At times I am shocked at the depths of Ignorance that exits on Earth.

It sure is teaching me, to be tolerant if nothing else LOL...

I am glad there is only one Conscious Mind and That many have access to this, and wish many others could on Earth if only they were willing to just try.

It always saddens me, to find that under Roman Doctrine, they can't discern between the different components of God...

God, Lord God, God the Father, God The Son, and my other components using different names.

It is indeed sad that there is No understanding at all and think that they are all the same.

I prefer the Truth than Roman Doctrine, that the followers of pretending or professing to be Christian but are in fact the opposite to Christian teaching.

There is No mention at all of their churches in the bible....

I wonder Why????

As you know the in the Original writings before being Bastardised the writings referred to the assemblies of Lights and Not churches.

The term "The Assemblies of Lights" was changed to the term churches by Roman doctrine. The Assemblies was the Components made from Light. Hardly human....

How can humankind ever join the Universal Community, if they Live in such a fantasy, in fear and superstition???

I will never forget one of my trips in a craft, crossing many Galaxies (about 30 in all) and decelerating into one Galaxy and coming to hovering over a very large planet.

Sadly most of Earth, have know Idea at at all about any technologies outside the Earth, let alone the size of some craft from other Civilisations. They would be shocked at the size of some craft I have seen and travelled in.
(The populations of The Earth can't even accept that many civilisations are millions of years ahead of the Earth in everything.)
I was transferred down to the planet with another being, Not of Earth and they introduced me to a number of others, from many different Origins...
It was a very strange feeling, realising how little we really know, about anything.
At the time my thoughts turned to think of the earth and I remember feeling extremely sad, in seeing the majority back on Earth as they really are.
The person I was with, nodded his head and confirmed my thoughts, adding their own thoughts, but with deeper understanding, reminding me of what I must go through, in trying to help others to understand the true nature of the Mind.

As you know it is very difficult at times, as it is not often possible to talk directly to others of Earth, but instead drop little bits of knowledge here and there, hoping that some will ask questions with an open mind.

But the number that do enquire are so few.

so I still believe, the only way to educate humankind, is to introduce some of these Technologies, through the form of a child's toy.

I can't see any other way, that will allow humankind to accept the Truth of themselves and the Universal Community.

Anything Paranormal, usually just puts the average person into a spin, either Closing their Minds or just plain rejecting the Idea.

Even though much research has been done on Earth involving what people call the Paranormal, it is another thing to get the general public to entertain the Idea, because of the Large number of persons that just want to shut it down for whatever their reasons.

The main reason being that all the "Opposites" are present in this program, the negative being such as fear, superstition, and insecurity.

There is much I wish to say, but I know most will just right me off as being full of B.S. or perhaps being possessed or perhaps mad.

But in saying this, I have come across others who are involved with R&D in this area.

posted on Dec, 17 2008 @ 02:38 AM

A word used in the bible to censor inconvenient truths.

posted on Dec, 17 2008 @ 02:27 PM
reply to post by SaintlyMic

Have you been to The Marriage Supper?

posted on Dec, 17 2008 @ 04:01 PM
reply to post by SaintlyMic

Read the Book of The Acts...

Chapter 17. Verse 22 to 34...

All is a part of God and Thus is God!

But God has many many Components Not one or Three but many.

If we are the Offspring of God then we must be God....

Horses don't give birth to Lizards now do they????.

God gives birth to God.... Yes or No ????

But your god a "Roman god" is a much different concept than mine....

Read an ancient "Christian Writing" called....

"The Thunder Perfect Mind"

Then give me your thoughts if you desire????

posted on Dec, 17 2008 @ 04:11 PM
reply to post by The Matrix Traveller

Wonderful post; thanks, TMT!

Funny, I too have seen another world; it wasn't in an Etherian ship, however...I was taken there by the SS,Naga! Glowing with radiant silver, we sat at the bottom of what must have been an ocean (on Earth), I across from this Being (androgynous), and the depth produced such a profound effect upon me that I will never forget it (I could feel the weight of the water, even upon my Soul body!). Then, after what seemed quite awhile (he had been communicating to me), I was taken to this world of unutterable grandeur and wondrous peoples, which gave me a feeling of rapture, seeing how they all dwelt in intelligence and acceptability of each other. To go on is not my purpose: suffice it to say, when I was whisked away and reentered my physical form, I groaned at the filth & poverty, a mere hovel of a world in comparison.

Now, for the cracker! It was a world from our Sol solar system's Past!
The advancement of it's culture was beyond all description; and to think, with just a few twists of the heart & mind inverted and infernalized, it's entirely gone from our knowing. Naga's are terrestrial Sol Rulers (see quote below!).

Needless to say, I applied myself to the Diagram of the WORD I was given, for I was absolutely not going to be stuck here in the forsaken hellhole for endless more rounds amoung a people filled with blindness & dogma. How they do it, in the face of touching the REAL, is beyond me. Of course, very few have felt this.

I will make an interesting post this next time, about the origin of this jesu monstrosity, form OAHSPE (which I feel you are familiar with). I only wish many thousands had a chance to be exposed to it, but alas, it is unlikely.

And now, a Word about our local Earth Leader:

"Once that the key to Genesis is in our hands, the scientific and symbolical Kabalah unveils the secret. The Great Serpent of the garden of Eden and the Lord God are identical.
("The Secret Doctrine," H.P.Blavatsky)

The mystery reveals the same Truth you alluded to in your post: humanity knows not who they worship. But they will make it fit any face they choose, and sell it for God's very statements. Haha, not.

Yes, it would be hard, if you were not mighty strong, to carry out the work you've garnered this round: many are opting out, from sheer fear (they feel it).

Thanks again!

[edit on 17-12-2008 by SS,Naga]

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