Missing Lunar Orbiter Tapes Found

This has nothing to do with the Apollo missions.
Educate yourself

G'day thrundar,

This was all done on,Auto development and Download.

On the self-development of film in the space craft as this was a well developed technique used in spy satellites (though as you probably know, the film was ejected and caught by aircraft). If they slow scanned the negatives on the orbiter and sent them back via a fairly low bandwidth down link then an instrumentation recorder would have been a perfectly viable device to capture the images on.

Regards
Zelong.

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Try a simple "lunar images".

um...not a one-liner.

I haven't finished the whole thread yet. But...I hope someone has pointed out that the correct company name is not McDonald Douglas. The McDonnell Douglas company was founded from the firms of James Smith McDonnell and Donald Wills Douglas.

The pirate flag in this particular McDonalds = A link to the secret society Skull & Bones? C'mon man...

What information do you have that McDonald's was involved in the Apollo program? Could you link me? I'm not trying to sling mud, but seems you are digging pretty deep here.

Edit: Grammer & content.

[edit on 15-10-2008 by susp3kt]

Well I can verify part of the chicken coupe story it wasnt a chicken coupe it was a garage in L.A. owned by my family. I helped Steve load those monster machines aprox 4 hours . I took him and his sidekick to pick up the rental trucks.
For all my troubles the only thing I asked of him was be careful when they exit the property. I had to go to work and trusted him to be a man of his word.
He cashed the wall and took off and like a child, after weeks of his denial at first then admission and promise to pay, he just blew it off.
So no chicken coupe,one broken wall,and no regard for anyone
I have pictures (not touched up)
Its an intresting story just not a intresting man
Mike F

UPDATE

Found by Zarniwoop... Seems the Cat is out of the bag

NASA Unveils 42-Year-old Historic Lunar Image



www.spaceref.com...

S. Pete Worden, Ames Research Center Director

Well so Pete Worden is involved now...

Who is Pete Worden? I did a thread here on his appointment.

Pete Worden: the new guy at Ames







www.thespacereview.com...

So he was involved in the Star Wars program and the director of Clementine Mission...

He is also involved with the "Mars on Earth" Project...

www.marsonearth.org...

And now he is heading up the project on these Lunar Orbiter tapes...

Oh well it was a nice dream...

More:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Hmmm Seems Spaceref got the drop on us on THIS one... Thanks Zarniwoop for digging it up

The FR-900 drives in Nancy Evan's garage - the first time we saw them in February 2007. Credit: LOIRP/MOONVIEWS.COM



Seems the Chicken coop is only a few feet away..

The FR-900 drives in Nancy Evan's garage had some neighbors living a few feet away. Credit: LOIRP/MOONVIEWS.COM




Interior of one of the FR-900 tape drives before refurbishment began. Credit: LOIRP/MOONVIEWS.COM





www.moonviews.com...

Now it also seems that other people more directly involved also thought the tapes were MISSING




www.moonviews.com...

Here is a sample of the "Increased Resolution" Image on left original... image on right new scan from tapes





BIG PICTURE


Uh huh I can see the better quality...

So NASA put top dog Gen. Pete Worden in charge of these LO images... I guess we can expect to see LOTS



I'm tired... going to bad...



[edit on 14-11-2008 by zorgon]

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I wasn't really expecting much higher quality than that which we have from USGS. The data on the tapes is the analog scan from the film. It was originally turned back into film then that film was digitized. They've skipped one step but they cant retrieve any information that wasn't on the original film or scan. The dynamic range is part of that information as is the original resolution.

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Ah well... I was hoping at least to get some of those missing image numbers from USGS

But maybe what we need to do is a fund raiser and get our own camera's up there.

NASA unveils lunar image recovery project
November 13, 2008 4:57 PM PST



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NASA has released a fully restored 42-year-old image of Earth taken from the moon. The image was released as part of a project that will allow scientists at NASA and beyond to compare historical images of the moon with new images that will be captured when NASA sends new missions to the moon in the coming years.
(Credit: NASA/LOIRP)

news.cnet.com...


I guess the hornets nest has been stirred now. At least ATS was at the for front of the story

Now THIS one is interesting. The above image is a section from LO I - 102






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[edit on 15-11-2008 by zorgon]

Zorgon,
Sorry that I have been away so long. I was very busy as I am directly involved in the Lunar Orbiter Data Recovery project, at least for now. On the 13th of this month I was at NASA Ames Research Center at Moffett Field for the public release of this project - which you know about already. The link is here:

www.collectspace.com...

The video on that site was taken at that conference.

However, there is a back story to all of this and I will ultimately put it up on my web site which will reveal what my involvement in this project is. When I do, I will post a link to it here if you like. It should be fairly soon. Sorry to say that there are no conspiracies about moon bases etc. that I am aware of, but I can tell about an interesting encounter that I had with Richard Hoagland around 1996 concerning his claims if you like.

Also I must say that I was impressed as to how one of your readers tracked down the site. Who would have imagined that there was a list of CLOSED McDonalds! Open, yes. Closed? Never. Live and learn. Apparently one person actually did show up at the site, so I was told (I wasn't there at the time). I believe he is the one who said that they were 'just a bunch of guys who had an interesting project and that is all they wanted to do.' And that is the truth. The dataset represents, according to some estimates, about 1.2 terra bytes of information, which is a real treasure trove for researchers when digitized. This is because up to now that data was available in one of two formats: about 2,000 each of 28" x 30" prints (very expensive), or about 35 microfiche (not as expensive - but you need a reader and the resolution is less). Soon they will be available as a CD or DVD at a modest cost - or directly down-loadable. As the resolution is unprecedented, issues as to whether the "glass towers" etc. are real or are processing artifacts should be resolved fairly easily. I'm voting for 'processing artifacts' myself.

In the mean time can I ask a favor of you? I would like to know if there is a link to the original posting that started this thread? That is the one with the video and all the other information that started this whole thing. Can you post it for me? Thanks in advance.

Also is it possible to contact you directly? It is a Dragon related thing.

Thanks again.

~ Dr. X ~

Hmmm why am I not surprised by this?




No moon bases? but I would like to get your opinion about a certain 'rock' and I would love to here your Hoagland story... on or off the record



So ummmm a signed copy for all the free advertising?

If your still on that 'limited budget' try MIXONIC for DVD/CD. They are very close to you downton SF and have a small minimum of only 100 for 179.00.
Includes:
• CD duplication
• Black disc printing
• Full color 2-panel insert
• Thin jewel case

They did a great job for us... ready in two days



The original links that started this threat were the two posts on Flicker that were deleted and the one youtube video. The information and original photo are still on my website, though not the comments from other users. However I do have both those pages saved in 'archives' as well as the youtube video...

As I only had permission for the first two... I did not copy those to my site. So I cannot post it unless I get authorization, but I can email you a copy... since your with the project.

The rest of the material is collected here... with the first comments from Flicker by Steve Jurvetson. There is also one other person I am in contact with who wishes to remain anonymous at this time... Hehe but it could be you for all I know



standauffish@earthlink.net

Thanks for popping in... I had a lot more to post but thought it best to 'hold off' as 'requested'




[edit on 17-11-2008 by zorgon]

reply to post by Dr. X

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Here's to much success to you and your colleagues in your efforts! Hope we can see them soon, unless NASA can cook up a reason not to share *sigh*.

MM

I noticed in some of the released images the vertical banding
that occurred during the scanning phase..Are these scanning artifacts
from the videotape read process itself or they artifacts from the
cameras on the lunar orbiters which only took small vertical swaths
of imagery to be stiched together using an optical process?

I can suggest a custom digital signal processing algorithm of mine
which could change the luminance values of the banding borders to
more closely match the interior of the image swaths.

If someone wants to send me a high resolution version
of a vertically banded moon image (in an Uncompressed TIFF,
TGA, PNG, BMP OR RAW RGB FORMAT BUT NOT JPEG!!!!)
I'll use my custom built software to fix it as much as possible.

Since it's a neural net, I can train it on 1 to 10 images and
then let it loose on all the others where my algorithm will then
automatically detect the luminance changes in the banding borders
and then normalize across the entire image so that we get a clearer
photo. I can also get rid of a lot of the stochastic noise
which will be perceived as an apparent increase in resolution.

Email me at henry@comwave.com
and i'll give it a whirl...it only takes
a few minutes to run the algorithm
and I'll post the results on ATS or
email it back to the original emailer!

Here is the Official NASA release...

NASA Unveils 42-Year-Old Historic Lunar Image
www.nasa.gov...

Here is the Official NASA CORRECTION

RELEASE : 08_99AR
Correction -- NASA Restores Historic Lunar Orbiter Image
www.nasa.gov...

Good old NASA... Never A Straight Answer

Lunar Orbiter Image Recovery Project (LOIRP) Overview
www.nasa.gov...

Download video about the LOIRP project.
www.nasa.gov...


Here is a website by Keith Cowing with more pictures and facts, as well as some Lunar Images From Chandrayaan-1

www.moonviews.com...

Imagery Information

Restoring Forgotten Lunar Orbiter Images

YouTube Link