It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
reply to post by Blaine91555
Who said anything about waving guns around? Thats a threatening act and I expect anyone who starts waving a gun around would be promptly put down.
As far as kids taking rifles to school. Up until just a couple of decades ago every kid in my home state took one to school. Schools across the nation had rifle teams and shooting sports abounds. Guns were kept in lockers, sometimes carried from class to class.
Before the NRA betrayed the nation and pushed to pass the Firearms Act of 1934 anyone could order a military surplus machinegun C.O.D. for $25.
The rifles and pistols manufactured in the past 20 years arent more powerful or special in any way. Certain techniques and materials may make them more accurate (at least the rifles out of the average Joe's pricerange) but they are no more deadly or amazing than they've ever been. What fools commonly refer to as "assault rifles" thanks to a sweeping anti-gun campaign were developed during WWII. How many school shootings then? How much gang activity?
I'm sorry. But I'm not about to change everything because some punks choose to act like animals.
Because some rednecks cant stop driving drunk should we ban cars? If no then why? Clearly laws against driving drunk don't work. We have laws against murder that apparently do not work so then we must ban the guns? Foolishly of course we'll ban the type of gun that isn't even used in the crimes we're trying to prevent. Because that makes sense.
And who cares if an "assault rifle" isn't used for hunting or home defense? The fact of the matter is they are damn fun to shoot and wonderful to collect. That should be more than enough reason to own one to want to own one in a free country.
You "they wont take my hunting rifle so it's okay" types bother more than the outright gun-grabbers.
I guess you haven't seen this:
They will try to take my AR's, my AK's and my SL8 before they come for yours but they'll come for it. There is no "good gun" to the gun-grabbers and you should know by know that if you give an inch they take 100 miles and getting a right back takes decades while giving one up takes an hour or so.
Originally posted by hildar
Because I hate to say it but state schools have laws in place that DO NOT allow any guns.
Then we needed them again in 1812 to repel the British and their second attempt at domination.
Originally posted by ORIPEIAif you need a 30 round clip to defend your home or take game, then you are either involved in no good or you are a horrible shot.
Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
reply to post by maybereal11
Clintons little experiment made owning what they have always owned illegal overnight. It was a conscious decision on their parts to refuse to submit to new registration and restriction just to keep a thing in their cabinet that had always been there. Bringing them out at ranges and being loudmouths led to their eventual arrest and conviction.
A National Rifle Association advertising campaign distorts Obama's position on gun control beyond recognition. The NRA is circulating printed material and running TV ads making unsubstantiated claims that Obama plans to ban use of firearms for home defense, ban possession and manufacture of handguns, close 90 percent of gun shops and ban hunting ammunition. Much of what the NRA passes off as Obama's "10 Point Plan to 'Change' the Second Amendment" is actually contrary to what he has said throughout his campaign: that he "respects the constitutional rights of Americans to bear arms" and "will protect the rights of hunters and other law-abiding Americans to purchase, own, transport, and use guns." The NRA, however, simply dismisses Obama's stated position as "rhetoric" and substitutes its own interpretation of his record as a secret "plan." Said an NRA spokesman: "We believe our facts." Perhaps so, but believing something doesn't make it so. And we find the NRA has cherry-picked, twisted and misrepresented Obama's record to come up with a bogus "plan."