How many of you would survive should the system crash?

It is common knowledge that after three days without food honest people will steal for it and after 7 days without food people will kill for it.
We have nearly 2 generation who have never experienced real hardship, how prepare is your household should the system even fail for a month?

Should you lose power for a number of weeks, do you have a stockpile of firewood and a fireplace?

Do you have a gas cook top and spare gas?

Do you have a form of transport that needs no fuel like a push bike or animal?

Should the supermarket also dry up, do you have enough dry stock, Tins and bottled water to see you out a month?

Should money become worthless do you have a little stash of gold or silver to barter with.


We live in modern times and I am really interested to see if any are really prepared to survive more that a week should the system come crashing down say in the middle of a cold winter.


[edit on 24-9-2008 by smokingman2006]

Edit - missed the point of the post

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I live in the bush, I have livestock and grow vegies, also have some very handy survival skills and trade skills, Blacksmithing ect., I reckon I could last oh about 40 years, if I give up smoking that is " I don't grow tobacco" maybe I could swap some chickens for some tobacco seeds hee hee

We in australia should be ok we've been running a 20 billion $ surplus for a while now. However that would decline if some of our trading partners were to go broke.

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Honestly, we are so weak that I'd be surprised if over 30% of the population survived real hardship.

reply to post by smokingman2006

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The last real crisis was the Great Depression. There were no government programs or unemployment. If you couldn't find work, you lived in the street or at the YMCA.
I have a disability, so I would probably not make it. As long as I'm with my boys, I wouldn't mind it.
Since I do have problems, I don't worry about collapse and live every day for what it is and try to enjoy what few vices I have.

reply to post by smokingman2006

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The answer to all those questions that you asked is yes. We have all that and more.

But that only gets us by for a month or two. What happens then?

Me, I have a wood stove and firewood for a year. We have dry food, water, a generator so if the country comes to a grinding halt, we'll be OK longer than many others.

But what happens if we have a prolonged downturn?

The last real crisis was the Great Depression. There were no government programs or unemployment. If you couldn't find work, you lived in the street or at the YMCA.

My point exactly if the world governments drop the ball we will be in an even bigger mess than 1930.

back then we numbered a little over 1.5 billion and still has many natural resources today we number 4 times that number.

Plus the people of the 1930 were a lot more hardened than the creme puff we have today.................

People still are not getting it...

See that when you mention a system crashing, most don't even have an idea of exactly what would such an event would entail, and whether or not they would be able to deal with it with any competence, seeing that most have not even been out to discover what their true abilities are.

In any case, survival would depend mostly on access to drinkable water, and in most big cities that would already be a huge problem, to put it lightly...

We'll see...

reply to post by smokingman2006

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I got about one month... but no guns!

Tell me about it. It's a time when people call 911 if their pizza is late, contact their representatives if the cable goes out, pack a storage bin of Heineken to flee hurricanes and beat people to death to steal iPhones and Playstations. Hmmm... maybe if they react to food and shelter the way they react to consumer electronics and alcohol they might just survive.

Estimates that I have seen is that once power and water go out in urban areas, you can expect 90% of the population to be dead within 30 days. (That is, of course, assuming no major help for the populace in said urban area).

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True. Honestly, people have become so accustomed to things just being there for them, I have to wonder what they are going to do when it's not just right there for them.

Most people do not have the wear withall to get up and go get what they want in life. Hell, most people have a hard enough time getting a job or mate, much less having the ability to make ends meet to survive.