Brainwave Entertainment: Bad Side-Effects , page 1
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Topic started on 24-9-2008 @ 11:27 AM by blueblue7777
Greetings all,

I need help!

A few months ago I listened to a "brainwave entertainment" audio file from the
Monroe Institute. After listening to the audio file for a few minutes I became extremely uncomfortable. It felt like my head was vibrating and a strong feeling of anxiety came over me.

I shut off the audio file and splashed cold water on my face, but I still felt awful. For three weeks after that I felt like I was suffering from a concussion, each week the symptoms would lessen.

My symptoms included:

mild detachment from reality
sensitivity to light
sensitivity to loud noise
mild fear
mild anxiety
confusion
short-term memory problems
difficulty sleeping
vivid dreams
difficulty being social

It is now three months later and I only have: sensitivity to light, mild sensitivity to sound, and a slight feeling of detachment from reality.
(These symptoms become worse when drinking alcohol or when tired).

My question is: Has anyone else heard of these awful side-effects? And is there anything I can do to return back to normal?


Thank you.

- Blue Seven


reply posted on 4-11-2008 @ 04:06 PM by TravelerintheDark
If you do not practice meditation, start now. Standard meditation will more naturally ease your brain in and out of the same wave states that binaural beats produce and the transition will be a lot easier. The first time using binaural beats can be very dramatic, and for the unprepared I'm sure disturbing. So, meditation is my top piece of advice. More than likely what you experienced was an overstimulation of your pineal gland. With a name like "Indigo", I would suspect this was aimed directly at the pineal. This is the reason why you should open your chakras from base to crown, in that order, and learn to close them.

That being said, I can tell you from that I've experienced some of the same symptoms you describe, but they have lessened over time and I believe it is really a matter of your brain adjusting to what is a new state of existence. There is also some evidence to suggest that certain frequencies and certain people don't mix well. For example, I get headaches in the 7hz binaural frequency range after long periods of time, more than say 5 minutes. I've also read of 7hz binaural frequency causing anxiety and depression in some. But this may all relate to how experienced the user is. To that end, I also suspect certain frequency combinations can cause unpleasant side-effects. So, my second piece of advice is do not buy products like this from any company who does not disclose what frequencies they use. In the case of the Monroe Institute, they have been doing it for a long, long time, so I doubt there is anything detrimental about their products. But, they should be willing to reveal the frequencies they use and you should contact them about any issues you experience using their products.

Chances are, you haven't done any permanent damage, but if you're still concerned, see a doctor and have an EEG done.


reply posted on 7-11-2008 @ 06:44 PM by MischeviousElf
This is very unusual as most of these including the Monroe ones tend to not create the Alpha, Beta Theta experiences immediately but to gently take you there.

As you say you used it for only 5 mins its a bit weird.

There is a possibility of some Neuropathological issue that this has highlighted such as Encepholytis.

GO TO THE DOCTOR.

Your symptoms are indicative of many many other things, that this may have just triggered of the experience of the symptoms.

I can not say again strongly enough if you are still having this after 4 months

GO TO THE DOCTOR

Don't go and say "I used this tape" etc tell him your symptoms first and at the end mention it started when you used this audio for only five minutes.

Many of these audios especially the Kelly Howell early ones have been clinically tested so are safe.

And used with recovering Alcoholics and ex Junkies with massive chemical and structural changes from the norm in their Nueropathy anyhow.

From years of being totally out of it, dehydrated and the other chemical and brain structural changes and effects.

They have in especially the case of long term alcoholics never experienced much above Delta or Beta, certainly never been to Alpha when inebriated, so they have not had these experiences and they are going through Physical & Chemical withdrawal, and new modes of experience in their consciousness, usually with Depression too.

GO TO YOUR DOCTOR.

Also if you did download the audio from the internet it may be damaged or have subliminal commands esp if from P2P etc, so please do as I say like tomorrow and again focus on the Symptoms not this audio.

Let him/her check you out my friend, ASAP, not like the emergency room, but you need some tests to get an all clear, when you read this book an appointment with him before going to another web page or surfing...

Listen to the experts not us on ATS ok?

I am not rambling and did Nursing many years ago in a related Neuro field, please go, but don't panic, unless you don't go because in a year or two it could be much much worse my friend.

Please do and let us know you are ok, and have the answer soon.

Looking forward to you telling us what he said.

Elf.


reply posted on 10-11-2008 @ 06:41 PM by TravelerintheDark
reply to post by blueblue7777



I'm glad to hear that there appears to be nothing wrong with you physically, but don't let that stop you if you feel the need to pursue another opinion. Outside that, meditation is an option but please understand that it shouldn't be viewed as any kind of replacement for proper medical care. And I can't make any guarantee that it will help you feel better. I'm basing this on personal experience, but we are all different. How you proceed is up to you so take care.

What sort of meditation to try is a personal choice as to what's comfortable. Research the chakras and go from there. I wouldn't recommend long periods since being comfortable is the goal. You can start simply by playing some relaxing music, sitting crossed legged on the floor, hands resting on your knees and focus on your breathing. Your stomach extends with each inhale and retracts with each exhale. After a few minutes you should feel calm and relaxed. Given time and practice, your energy can be more balanced.

Now a note about different states of existence. Binaural beats and meditation serve to influence the brain to operate within a specific state, nothing unnatural. The main states are Beta (wide awake), Alpha (awake and relaxed), Theta (light sleep, dreaming) and Delta (deep. dreamless sleep) each corresponding to frequencies of waves. Binaurals use specific frequencies to "line up" brain waves to the desired state, meditation does the same but more slowly and more along a natural curve. Your brain exists in all these states at all times, but with prevalence depending on your state of awareness. The deeper the state goes, the more subconscious. If certain states are more active at the wrong time it can produce sleep disturbances, paranoia, depression, hallucinations and so on. This is where meditation may help in aligning your brainwaves to a more natural state.

But, again, go slow and be cautious. Focus on feeling balanced and comfortable. If you find yourself feeling worse, see a doctor and please insist on further testing. And don't be ashamed to seek psychiatric care if you feel depressed or anxious. This would be entirely opposite the intended effect of any meditation.

As for the pineal, I seriously doubt there's any damage done. Think of it this way, it's called the third eye and it's been blind most of your life. The binaural beats likely threw up the shades and sent it into a state of shock because it does react to certain frequencies of sound with greater or lesser intensity depending on age and its general state. This is not something you generally need to fear from standard meditation as it is hard to force the mind in this way. Start from the bottom up, focusing on your base/root chakra first to help attain a sense of balance and even things out.

Hopefully you feel better soon.


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