Originally posted by centurion1211
reply to post by rapinbatsisaltherage
Do you know what you are talking about when you say "seperation of church and state"? See if this helps you out - my underline for emphasis:
The phrase "separation of church and state", which does not appear in the Constitution itself, is generally traced to an 1802 letter by
Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptists, where Jefferson spoke of the combined effect of the Establishment Clause and the Free Exercise Clause of the
And the 1st Amendment says about religion:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof . . .
So, if we had to worry about anyone forcing a religion on us in the U.S. (or banning a religion), it would be congress and not the president (or the
vice president ).
[edit on 9/30/2008 by centurion1211]
1: You just argued on the last page that it's wrong for Iran's religion to influence it's governments.
2: You just sidestepped the same issue in regards to the united states.
So it's OK for the US not to hold a separation between church and state,
but it's wrong that Iran doesn't either?
... just clarifying on that, cause that's the way your posts read.
3: Their president didn't make the religious laws, nor introduce them into their justice system. The laws are the same now as when he became
president. He isn't a dictator, meaning he doesn't have the authority to overthrow the country's vote to have those laws changed.
... unlike some president's I've seen.
If Iran's laws are going to change, it has to be the elected representatives that vote they do so.
I'm on board with everyone else... fix your own darn country before ridiculing others.
Right now in the US, you are undergoing a financial issue that exceeds any financial concern of Iran's.
You've entered into two wars, with talks of a third possible war.
Iran isn't fighting ANYONE.
In the US, it's still one country under god, and you still swear your oath on the bible... until recent history sodomy was also illegal in your
country, that's a religious based law... actually, I think there might still be some states where it is. Yes, Iran has the same law... woopty
He clearly stated homosexual acts are NOT illegal within your own home... considering kissing is a sign of public friendship in their culture, they
hardly have anything to worry about unless they start stripping and going at it in public... which is illegal for any sexual preference in almost
So, if you think the church's involvement in government in Iran is wrong... maybe, just maybe it should be abolished in the US as well.
And WATCH the interview. You've made quite a few points that show you haven't actually watched it all.
Not to mention blatantly admitted
not wanting to watch it all on the last page.
... like claiming all he did was ask him about his family... you clearly skipped to the closing comments in the last minute of the interview.
NOT watching all of the interview that this whole thread is about, is an act of deliberate ignorance
Especially when you attempt to post your opinions about the interview YOU DIDN'T WATCH !
[edit on 30-9-2008 by johnsky]