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The 2004 abortion rate in the United States is the lowest it has been since national legalization, but the overall rate masks stark disparities in the abortion rate among different racial and ethnic groups, a study released today by the Guttmacher Institute found.
Originally posted by asmeone2
Let the arguments over whether or not this indicates that abstinence only education is working commence...
Originally posted by sir_chancealot
A little known secret in the abortion industry was that Margaret Sanger, who started "Planned Parenthood", wanted to use abortion to control the minorities. Sadly, she seems to have had her intended effect.
Originally posted by PaxAmericanvs
Originally posted by asmeone2
Let the arguments over whether or not this indicates that abstinence only education is working commence...
I'm a bit curious. What is your position on abstinence?
Not aborting a child, to me, is better then having unprotected sex which leads to an unwanted pregnancy and subsequently to an abortion. If it works, why disparage it?
Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
reply to post by asmeone2
My sentiment is that abstinence played a small part in the numbers returned but education and contraceptive programs had a much larger effeect on the reduction of the abortion rate.
Originally posted by americandingbat
OP -- that is a blog, not a news article.
And it would be nice to keep inflammatory remarks suggesting that people who believe women should continue to have the legal right to a legal medical procedure consider abortion to be "another form of birth control",
That said, yes, it is excellent that overall the rates are down. And it is sad that underprivileged women still have to resort to abortion at high rates. I hope that birth control education and abstinence encouragement both make further inroads among these women.
Originally posted by LostNemesis
Originally posted by sir_chancealot
A little known secret in the abortion industry was that Margaret Sanger, who started "Planned Parenthood", wanted to use abortion to control the minorities. Sadly, she seems to have had her intended effect.
This is a horrible thing to say. I don't believe that Margaret was trying to GENOCIDE the minorities.
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Originally posted by asmeone2
It is a personal choice, which I don't knock people for, AB shouldn't be represented as a panacea to prevent unwanted pregnancies.
Those who are having sex should use birth control. They should absolutely take pains to prevent getting pregnant before engaging in intercourse to prevent the pregnancy in the first place.
Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
Originally posted by americandingbat
OP -- that is a blog, not a news article.
I am well aware of that fact. The link includes facts that are not subjective and are also being reported on by other outlets such as Time.
Originally said by americandingbat:
And it would be nice to keep [away from] inflammatory remarks suggesting that people who believe women should continue to have the legal right to a legal medical procedure consider abortion to be "another form of birth control",
I could not find the quoted statement in the article I linked nor is it in my post so I am not sure to who you are refering and if you are paraphrasing. If you are indeed refering to me, abortion is a form of birth control, although I do not advocate it as such.
[snip]
I agree, I wonder how many of these women/girls would have hoped for a means to mitigate what they might have felt was their only option.
Originally posted by americandingbat
The guidelines for this section ask that you not use blogs as a source: perhaps you could have used one of those other outlets instead.
You begin your opening post by saying "Whether you condone abortion as an aceptable means of birth control or not." So you are correct that you did not say pro-choicers consider it an "alternative means" as I said. But you did imply that they consider it, and even approve of its use as, an "acceptable means".
Abortion is an option of last resort for the vast majority of women who undergo it.
You could argue that technically, what I am calling "birth control" is actually "pregnancy control" and abortion (but not condom usage or the "birth control" pill) is really "birth control".
I'm not sure what you mean by "a means to mitigate" it, either. Once you're pregnant, you have two choices: abortion or birth. There is no "mitigation" of pregnancy.