could you post a source please. thanks.
Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
it appears to be a ming dynasty vase or ku.
the key motif , the cloud motif at the bottom, and the general
schematics of the design all say ming.
which is totally awesome to think that the chinese were here before us!
I'm a lurker, but this was too cool not to comment on.
I submit some comparisons for your veiwing:
I read a few of the chapters myself this week...
The Minoans learned metal working most likely from the Syrians. From what I have read. And they were much better at stylizing than this. If they wanted you to think bull it would have been quite obvious. imo
Originally posted by Skelkie3
It seems very possible, Skyfloating, that you ( or your contact before you ) is being used somehow- or maybe not.
Someone is fishing for a valuation ( or at least more info ) on granma's brass tiki torch, I suspect.
The minoans learned the art of metalurgy on their own.
Exquisite metal works were created in ancient crete with gold and copper imported from abroad. The Minoans employed several techniques to shape various metals into utilitarian objects and works of art. They mastered the techniques of lost wax casting, repuse (embossing), gilding, faience (grannulation), and nielo. The bee pendant (image above) is a good example of the artist's mastery of the demanding process of faience, during which tiny beads of gold are adhered to the surface of the cast jewelry with a special low-heat solder alloy. This is a technique most likely learned from the Syrians and with whom the Minoans had regular contact. The Minoans introduced the niello technique to the Mycenaeans, who used it to create black, bold outlines on gold decorations, and mastered the delicate process of gilding objects with gold leaf (extremely thin sheets of hammered gold foil). The Harvest Rython (image below) and the Bull Rython's horns were gilded with gold leaf.
Originally posted by serpentine
It's an awesome artifact. Sorry if I missed something. I am not convinced it has anything to do with Atlantis. However it is (probably) not a fake or a hoax. The asian lion head (which is actually a tiger if it has asian roots) says to me it is chinese (that is if it is older than 2-300 yrs). Other motifs, as forementioned, say it may have roots in other cultures. I know a lot of wreck divers and I can tell you for sure if it was found in the gulf of Mexico it is damn interesting. The fact musuems can't or won't value it only says it is worth a lot of money. Regardless it is beautiful. I will assume experts have already viewed the thread.
For sure id they are sitting on the fence it is very important.
I study the Atlantis - lost civilizations for 20 yrs. I know a little about antiiquties. This item is hot. Sounds dumb but the best place (to find out if it holds) is eBay. For sure it will hit 100,oooUS within a week. Thereore it may be priceless. The big problem is if it is important it will be purchased and disappear.
If an arab offers half mill we know it is a special piece, but to be honest the Atlantian anglr holds no weight.........YET.
I will be following this thread. One of the more interesting in the last week.
I'd suggest Z.Sitchin is the man yu need on the case.
Originally posted by Shawn B.
Atlanteans created the bible.
Originally posted by Pr00F
It seems to be made of Bronze and in good condition considering the age.
I would think it to be Mayan rather than Aztec due to the location of the find, its quite possible this could date back to the 1st century (WOW)
not sure on the use maybe a torch of some kind to light a mayan pyramid
Originally posted by asmall89
Hmm that is very interesting I took a semester of Archeology in college and it has always been an interest of mine. The interesting thing about this piece is not only is it metal it's from the Florida coast. The reason this is weird is mainly because the Indians from Mexico and south America (such as the Mayans and Aztec's) were the only Indians to have practiced metal smithing. The symbols that are the background that look like the square mazes look pretty Mayan to me, but again it's in the wrong location and it's made of metal which is very odd. It could be Spanish but still... I'd take it to a local university and have an Archaeologist/Anthropologist give you their opinion.