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Originally posted by skeptic1
Ok, with Indonesian added to the mix, I forwarded my earlier e-mail to yet another specialist in Southeast Asian art.
Hopefully, I will hear back from some, if not all, of the folks I am bombarding with e-mails tomorrow.
I've sent it to people specializing in Ming Dynasty bronzes and metalwork, Chinese art, Middle Eastern art, and Asian art. Hopefully, they don't take Fridays off.....
Originally posted by seagrass
Bryd your link to the rental vase mentioned the Shang Dynasty underneath it.
Originally posted by punkinworks
Indonesian would make sense style wise.
That would explain the psuedo chinese style elements.
And the spanish traded quite a bit with the people of southeast asia through the philipines, more so than with the chinese directly.
It for sure came off of a spanish wreck.
Originally posted by monkeybus
reply to post by Skyfloating
I find it unlikely , as this was recovered from a dive that this was the only piece. there should be a record, from where it was stored, with other items labelled Bimini.
Bimini, has long been considered to be where atlantis resided, up until recent years. And there has been a few dives to find artifacts. They also found an underwater pyramid.
[edit on 26-9-2008 by monkeybus]
Originally posted by Grailkeeper
Not sure if anyone asked or if its been mentioned (thread go too big for me to go back through every comment) any other artifacts that may have been found at the same time, in conjunction with this piece.
I am not sure how most museums operate when dealing with antiquities, if they are just given to them or if they go in search of pieces and what-not..
Its not upside down
Inside the burner area there is a soot buildup a little thicker than a wheat thin cracker, so its purpose and orientation are correct.
It is not bronze it is clearly a brass-like very hard metal, and it is clad with a thin layer of gold. It must have been very beautiful in its day.
So far the next steps would be:
1. Chromaspectragraph of the burned material inside. There is also an oil residue on one half of the inside of the chamber which would tend to enforce that it was in water. If it was dry for an extended duration of centuries on its side the oil would have tended to stay covering the entire surface by its own properties and contact.
2. A metalurgic essay as to the material composition of the metal.
Can't think of any more except perhaps flakes of the patina.