Serapis - a genetically engineered Hybrid?

reply to post by Skyfloating


I have just finished reading Colin Wilson's book "Atlantis and the Kingdom of the Neanderthals". I know, it sounds like a title to an Indiana Jones movie. He states that civilization may be hundreds of thousands of years older than previously thought. He gives evidence in the measurements used worldwide and ancient sites that were built on even older sites. He doesn't go into the ancient astronaut idea of Von Daniken or other ET theorists, but there is a lot of info in there about ancient Egypt.
I have ordered Graham Hancock's Fingerprints of the Gods to read more on this subject for an alternative view.
I have starred and flagged this thread.

Originally posted by kidflash2008

I have ordered Graham Hancock's Fingerprints of the Gods to read more on this subject for an alternative view.

That's very unfortunate as Hancock himself has occasionally noted his penchant for extremely poor "research" habits, particularly galling in that particular book.

He's been forced several times to admit to basically mischaracterizing entire topics in "Fingerprints..."

Harte

A few of the pictures you reference seem to be taken from the Sumerian Culture and the Annunaki.
Check the sumerian links.

reply to post by kidflash2008


Colin Wilson is always recommended.

But if you can, try to get hold of some of the Daniken books that were either

a) Taken off the market or
b) not officially published in English (look for unofficial copies)

This List shows me that his most important books werent even published in English.

See if you can find a copy of the book "According to the Evidence".

reply to post by Skyfloating


I just wanted to say, that I have seen these "Hybrids". They are spiritual beings. They appear to morph into different things and are exactly how the Ezekiel describes them being part animal and human, woman and man. One moment it's a human face, the next a lion, the next an alligator, although I don't remember seeing wings on the ones I've seen. They are quite awing and can be very frightening. It also appears as if they are "spinning" like a whirlwind.

Peace

I'll comment in full later, you might want to post this over at the Hall of Ma'at and let the Egyptologists comment.

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The most relevant passage of the OP quoted:

wo very well kept Bulls in Abuser add to the mystery: Tombs were found apparently containing the mummies of these sacred bulls. The bandages were untampered with and well-preserved.

Even real bull horns were sticking out of the top of the head. Had they finally been found? But to the amazement of all involved, they did not find an intact Bulls body beneath the bandages but the bones of several other animals, some of species which couldn't even be identified. So do we here finally have evidence of what many historians and ancient scribes have always been talking about: The “Gods” creating “mixtures of species through cross-breeding”? In his book “The Egyptian Way of Death”, mummy-specialist A.P. Leca not only reports various that the inside of the two abusir bulls had been destroyed and filled with the bones of other animals. But what if these “other animals” had actually been the result of genetic experimentation gone wild?

One odd passage from this mainstream-Egyptologists book says “The bull in the second tomb appeared to have two heads”.

Dr. Ange-Pierre, specialist for Egyptian mummies: “In the inside of a second mummy that seemed to be a bull, bones of seven animals were found. A third bull must have had two heads.” Sir Robert Mond: “We found bones of a jackal in the tomb of a Bull”.

reply to post by Harte


I have ordered Mr Hancock's book to read his take on the aspects of civilization being much older than previously thought. I know conventional wisdom is that civilization began 8,000 years ago, but that can change as new findings are found.
P.S. all myths and legends are based on some type of fact. To state that Atlantis is a total myth IMO is wrong. You are entitled to your own opinion, and that is fine.

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Originally posted by kidflash2008
reply to post by Harte

 

I just canceled the Hancock book until I can do more research on him. Thank you for the up and up about him.

It would be better if you formed your own opinion rather than being swayed just because some anonymous internet-poster says something.

Make up your own mind.

reply to post by Skyfloating


I have changed my order to include Mr Hancock's books once again. Thank you for reminding me that there are some posters who have negative views on alternative history authors such as Mr Hancock. The order is waiting for Jim Marrs latest book to be released, so I have time to change the orders back and forth.

Originally posted by kidflash2008
reply to post by Skyfloating

 

I have changed my order to include Mr Hancock's books once again. Thank you for reminding me that there are some posters who have negative views on alternative history authors such as Mr Hancock. The order is waiting for Jim Marrs latest book to be released, so I have time to change the orders back and forth.

When you get it, read what he writes about Pacal's tomb at Palenque.

He basically robs Von Daniken, claiming that the carving there shows a "spaceman" operating the controls of his flying machine.

Problem is, when that old con man Von Daniken wrote that, Mayan had not been translated.
When Hancock repeated the falsehood, Mayan had been translated.

Hancock never bothered to find out that the Mayans described what the carving shows.

It ain't no spaceman.

Read what Hancock tells you about "flash frozen mammoths."

It's based on an original hypothesis that dates back to the turn of the twentieth century.

What he doesn't tell you, and he apparently never bothered to look, is that the entire hypothesis is completely false. Everything in it is wrong.

Yet Hancock parrots the outdated and completely wrong idea as if it were true, never once even stating that there might be more to it than he says.

The mammoth thing is one subject Hancock has had to back down on over the years since this travesty of a book was first published.

"Fingerprints..." is filled with such examples.

Read it and then search ATS on the various subjects if you want to learn how Hancock has lied to you and taken your money.

Or, find the book at a library and feel better about yourself.

Harte

To get back on topic....

This thread is about the apis-bull and ancient hybrid-beings.

Yep, Hancock, the demonstated research ability of a slab of undercooked veal.

Howdy Sky

I've noted you haven't take your idea to the experts over at the Hall of Ma'at.

One note, I'm presuming you write this stuff to convince others that it is true? May I then suggest you reconsider using as sources people such as Daniken. Anyone with knowledge of his writings will just laugh at his being cited as an expert. You may believe what he has to say but you need to realize that quoting him is like envoking Nixon on honest government, Stalin on humantarianism and Musolini on military prepardness. It instantly cuts your creditability down to the level of a coffee pusher at BYU.

Just a suggestion.

Oh on using myths as truth. If one takes myths as truth then what is the sun? What do myth tell us the sun is?

Not again...



Your usual dishonest ploy of attacking the messenger instead of addressing the message....

Has nothing changed in this Forum?



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reply to post by Skyfloating


The message was to you in particular the comments on how to improve your presentation and make them more believable.

Why no comments about myths? So what is the sun? What do the myths tell us?

Oh...is it your care to improve peoples presentations?

I think I could provide you with an extensive list of threads in this Forum that could use that

Half of Danikens books havent even been published in English...not to mention papers and journals by him and his colleagues of the Swiss Ancient Astronaut Society (of which many contributing members are quite respectable people).

You´ve judged these people unfavorably many times in other threads and I am assuming you will continue to do so.

But the opening post has nothing to do with people, it has all to do with events.

Talk about Myth?

Not necessary as the opening post quotes historians

Howdy Sky

Half of Danikens books havent even been published in English...not to mention papers and journals by him and his colleagues of the Swiss Ancient Astronaut Society (of which many contributing members are quite respectable people).

Hans: I can read German and quotes from some of those sources have come out on German websites. It's just far fetched nonsense. "Respectable" people are often the worse offenders. Belief causes many strange bedfellows. The evidence speaks for itself.

You´ve judged these people unfavorably many times in other threads and I am assuming you will continue to do so.

Hans: Because they have demonstrated a complete and utter lack of basic knowledge about so many things. They are in the most negative sense of the word, Blind Believers. Care to point out anything they have gotten right? I should point you unfavorable judgement of most anyone in archaeology.

But the opening post has nothing to do with people, it has all to do with events.

Events you wish to protray as sinister - go ask the Egyptogical community if they think something funny is going on......I know you won't because that would cause yet another fantasy to collapse.

Talk about Myth?

Yep what is the sun according to the myths?

Not necessary as the opening post quotes historians

LOL you consider Daniken a historian huh?



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reply to post by Hanslune


Howdy Hans,

Manetho was a historian.

reply to post by Skyfloating

Sky - Manetho was a historian.

He was indeed. To highlight your point I will quote from wikipedia where they repeatedly state that modern mainstream archaeologists and Egyptologists rely heavily on his writings and consider it the final word on many fronts.

Impact of Aegyptiaca:

It is clear, however, that when it was written, it would have proven to be the authoritative account of the history of Egypt, superior to Herodotus in every way. The completeness and systematic nature in which he marshalled his sources was unprecedented.

Most modern scholarship that mentions the names of the pharaohs will render both the modern transcription and Manetho's version, and Manetho's names are even preferred to more authentic ones in some cases. Today, his division of dynasties is universally used, and this has permeated into the study of nearly all royal genealogies through the understanding of succession in terms of dynasties or houses.

LINK

Interesting that he is considered to be have written 'the most authortative account of Egytian history', yet when he chronicles that which does not suit the conventional view of current academia his authority goes out the window.

Of course Manetho can be considered a historian - but why not quote him directly?



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