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Homeschooling Banned in California as State Turns Parents Into Criminals for Teaching Their Own Chil

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posted on Sep, 25 2008 @ 06:00 AM
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Originally posted by mmariebored
You never really know what sort of crap is breeding in a helpless child's brain behind closed doors.


:shk: Yes .. those public schools are the absoulte best when it comes to teaching children values, morals, good behavior, and their ABCs. Wonderful. No chance they'll be molested at public school, eh? :shk:

Newsflash - the public schools are a mess. What children learn in public schools are NOT beneficial to them. AND Children in public schools are molested at a much much higher rate then those not in public schools.


Originally posted by Synyster
watch a documentary called Jesus Camp.

That's not homeschooling.


then you will realize how some people can manipulate and brainwash their children.

And you don't think that happens in public schools?
Check the NEA agenda sometime.


Homeschooling is awful. Kids need to be somewhat exposed to society.

Homeschoolers are not locked away in a bomb shelter ya' know. :shk:
Look at the Home School Legal Defense Fund website.
It gives information on what homeschoolers do in their spare time.
Most have two or more activities outside the home.
In our case it was swimming and art club. Swimming met four times a week and had swim meets on Saturdays.
Art club was twice a week.


You people have no clue what you are talking about.
Homeschoolers are better educated.
Homeschoolers have ample social time with others.

Get educated already.
:shk: oy.




posted on Sep, 25 2008 @ 06:03 AM
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HSLDF

Here. Read up. Get educated. Some of you are just spouting and have NO CLUE what you are talking about.

Anything and everything homeschool is at this site.

Statistics and all.

Read.

Get educated already.



posted on Sep, 25 2008 @ 06:03 AM
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You never really know what sort of crap is breeding in a helpless child's brain behind closed doors.


I agree. This is why I don't send my child to public school.



posted on Sep, 25 2008 @ 07:03 AM
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I'm sure that if the home schooling parents were willing to install vending machines and submit to the caress of other corporate tendrils with various kinds of 'sponsorship' and 'affiliation' there'd be no problem!



posted on Sep, 25 2008 @ 07:32 AM
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Originally posted by iceofspades
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That's unfair. The parents in Jesus Camp are unfit to raise children--period. One bad apple does not spoil the bunch.

There's a lot more than "one" bad apple spoiling the bunch.



posted on Sep, 25 2008 @ 07:35 AM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by mmariebored
You never really know what sort of crap is breeding in a helpless child's brain behind closed doors.


:shk: Yes .. those public schools are the absoulte best when it comes to teaching children values, morals, good behavior, and their ABCs. Wonderful. No chance they'll be molested at public school, eh? :shk:

Newsflash - the public schools are a mess. What children learn in public schools are NOT beneficial to them. AND Children in public schools are molested at a much much higher rate then those not in public schools.


I happen to be in close contact with my children's public schools and they are run wonderfully. I'm in complete agreement with all of their currently running programs and the more I learn about their schools the more my faith is restored in the "system".



posted on Sep, 25 2008 @ 07:37 AM
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Originally posted by Synyster
watch a documentary called Jesus Camp.


then you will realize how some people can manipulate and brainwash their children.



Homeschooling is awful. Kids need to be somewhat exposed to society.


Are there questions about Jesus Christ on state mandated aptitude or standardized tests?

I wasn't aware of that.



posted on Sep, 25 2008 @ 07:44 AM
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I happen to be in close contact with my children's public schools and they are run wonderfully. I'm in complete agreement with all of their currently running programs and the more I learn about their schools the more my faith is restored in the "system".



Too bad your unbridled optimism and affection for the education system of the People's Republic of America doesn't change the numbers data previously posted.

Home schooled kids score in the 80th percentile on average, government schooled kids score in the 50th percentile on average.

You are always entitled to your own opinion, however, you are NEVER entitled to your own facts.



posted on Sep, 25 2008 @ 07:51 AM
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Not only do they not get a tax credit but chances are the local property taxes they pay are paying for somebody elses kid to attend government school. I never understood why homeschoolers, and childless adults had to pay for everybody elses kid to get one of the worlds worst "educations" and be exposed to all the wonders of a public school like gang fights, drugs, rampant and loose sex, ridicule, indoctrination by teachers with more opinions than facts, pedophile faculty and staff, etc...

People are gross awful things in large numbers. The higher the population density of an area the higher all things bad. Buffalo vs. NYC for instance. So why the hell would anyone want to put their child in the hands of what is essentially a government run extortion funded slaughterhouse?

Public school is child abuse.



posted on Sep, 25 2008 @ 07:58 AM
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That is why I gave up on this thread as you found out most people here supporting the California decision are clueless on what they are defending.

Interesting that this same people will support anything governments do because after all their own education is base on the same crap they get in public schools.

No wonder our nation is going down the crapper when it comes to education we are ranking lower and lower when compare to public education in other developing countries.

In America nobody wants to deny ignorance anymore.



posted on Sep, 25 2008 @ 08:00 AM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by mmariebored
 





I happen to be in close contact with my children's public schools and they are run wonderfully. I'm in complete agreement with all of their currently running programs and the more I learn about their schools the more my faith is restored in the "system".



Too bad your unbridled optimism and affection for the education system of the People's Republic of America doesn't change the numbers data previously posted.

Home schooled kids score in the 80th percentile on average, government schooled kids score in the 50th percentile on average.

I see improvement coming. "Optimism"? yes, and also because I'm actually INVOLVED in my children's school. Funny, the people complaining the loudest are usually the ones who do nothing to get in there and actually do something about the problems they see.



posted on Sep, 25 2008 @ 08:00 AM
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Why is it that homeschooling and or private schools are always knee-jerk thought of as religious? For the first 7 years of my education I went to a private school. There wasnt anything religious about it. I've seen far more agricultural, experimental, new-agey, uppity artsy private schools than I have religious ones.

So I guess if some family homeschooled their kids or sent to a private school and prayed before the school day thats horrible but if some rich yuppie couple sent their kid off to some art private school where they fingerpainted 6 hours a day or homeschooled them to use "feelings" over logic that would be perfectly fine as long as religion was left out of it?

Not all homeschoolers or private schools are religious. I know, I know, not all public schools are laughable failures either. The difference is if I don't fund and support the public school I go to jail or worse.



posted on Sep, 25 2008 @ 08:08 AM
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Here In GA the religious veiled education in Public schools has always been in high gear, I spend 9 years teaching in the public schools here as a Spanish teacher and it was prayer in the morning for all school grades and in elementary was prayer before lunch.

So actually at least in my neck of the wood religion in public schools is very much alive.



posted on Sep, 25 2008 @ 08:14 AM
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Originally posted by marg6043
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Here In GA the religious veiled education in Public schools has always been in high gear, I spend 9 years teaching in the public schools here as a Spanish teacher and it was prayer in the morning for all school grades and in elementary was prayer before lunch.

So actually at least in my neck of the wood religion in public schools is very much alive.



I hope you realize that "praying" and "belief in God" is NOT "religion".

"Religion" is teaching/practicing a particular doctrine.



posted on Sep, 25 2008 @ 08:17 AM
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No, is call Reinforcing believes as in religion plain and simple, you can call it whatever you want but is nothing more than reinforcing believes.



posted on Sep, 25 2008 @ 08:26 AM
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Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by marg6043
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Here In GA the religious veiled education in Public schools has always been in high gear, I spend 9 years teaching in the public schools here as a Spanish teacher and it was prayer in the morning for all school grades and in elementary was prayer before lunch.

So actually at least in my neck of the wood religion in public schools is very much alive.



I hope you realize that "praying" and "belief in God" is NOT "religion".

"Religion" is teaching/practicing a particular doctrine.

Yes, but people who fervently pray in schools do tend to be deeply embedded in a religion and also very much tend to try and influence others to join their particular religion.

[edit on 25-9-2008 by mmariebored]



posted on Sep, 25 2008 @ 09:49 AM
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You are lucky to live someplace where you children have a decent public school to attend and one that you are enthusiastic about.

That is not the case for everybody though. Many people are not enthusiastic about the public schools in their area. Many of our public schools are failing our children. Many public schools have also become quite dangerous for our children, and parents do not feel safe in sending their children there.

Parents have to do what they feel is best for their children, for some that is public school, for some private, and for others it's home schooling. There are certain advantages that can be offered through home schooling that just can not be offered in public schools.



posted on Sep, 25 2008 @ 10:36 AM
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I usually read an entire thread before posting any replies but your ignorance needs addressed. I intend to homeschool my kid. Why? Because rarely a day goes by where I don't hear about some kid getting suspended for some asinine reason, some teacher abusing their power, etc.

For the record I got a C average in a public school that was considered to be one of the best in the area. Am I dumb? No. I'm quite intelligent actually. They didn't keep me interested. I did pretty well in the classes that were interesting. I had other classes that were literally a test in how fast you can copy notes from a projector into your notebook. The teacher invariably would change to the next page before ANYONE could finish the previous and a LOT of kids learned absolutely nothing because of it.

I have to ask why you think public schools are so superior. I'm quite confident that I can do a better job teaching my kid than a public school could. So what if I'm a little rusty in certain areas. The books he'll be required to learn from have all of the information he needs to learn the material. In the process I might learn/remember some things too. If we get stuck there are always other resources to get information from.

Home schooling isn't for everyone, but some parents actually work with their kids actively and for them it may be the way to go. If we can teach him in a way that keeps him interested then I GUARANTEE he'll learn more than he would sitting in a classroom where they teach to the lowest denominator.



posted on Sep, 25 2008 @ 10:43 AM
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If Obama is elected, with all that he owes to the teachers unions, you will see some form of Federal legislation to this effect.

That's the kind of crap that people get with socialism, and that is exactly what they are going to vote into office in this countr.

With Obama as President, Pelosi as the Speaker of the House and Reid as the Senate Majority Leader, you will see this country go straight down the socialist path.

There is no possible way that Obama and the democrats can possibly implement all of their plans without taxing the hell out of everyone. But he won't get the working guy with income taxes, he'll do it through all kinds of secondary taxes that will be passed on in prices to the common folks.

You think $4.00 a gallon gas is bad? After he is in office, I will predict $8.00 a gallon within 2 years, because of the taxes he and his cronies will impose.

And the people of this country will deserve what happens, because they listen to the glib SOB.



posted on Sep, 25 2008 @ 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by NOTurTypical
 


No, is call Reinforcing believes as in religion plain and simple, you can call it whatever you want but is nothing more than reinforcing believes.



LOL! No it's not, and just because you use bold type doesn't make it true.

Believing in God and practicing religion are two entirely different things.




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