Anyone watching Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's speech at the UN?, page 4

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reply posted on 23-9-2008 @ 06:56 PM by JaxonRoberts

reply to post by Interestinggg

Two words: Diplomatic Immunity

reply posted on 23-9-2008 @ 07:02 PM by mybigunit

Originally posted by ItsTheQuestion
reply to post by mybigunit

I get that. It doesn't seem to me that Ahmadinejad wants to "take over the world." Does Bush? In a sense. Do Bush's handlers? Why, they already do.

Re: Wall Street

I don't "know" that Jews "funded the massacre of millions Jews during the holocaust." Apparently you think that you do. Perhaps you know more than I. Bottom-line, that is an exceptionally strong statement which has been argued on many ATS threads, for starters. And not the point of this thread.

I do understand that there is a difference between those labeled "Jew" and those labeled "Zionist", although of course they are not mutually exclusive.

You mention that Ahmadinejad's words, by your estimate, are "true [because] the regime is coming to an end".

Whose regime? Bush's? The Israel's? Bankers'?

"For us here in the US the end of our ways is coming." What does that mean? I mean, I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but what are you saying?

The bankers/our government. Our government is owned by the bankers. Who owns the banks? The cost of keeping our empire afloat (you know the bases in over 100 countries and invading countries like there is no tomorrow) has finally hit the breaking point and frankly we dont have the money to keep it going. Especially since we have to go even further into debt to give the bankers back all the money they lost because in a capitalistic society the bankers can make all the money they want but any losses have to be funded by us.

Israels thug regime is funded by these same bankers once again who owns the banks? With America bankrupt the big bankers will have to find another country to suck all the wealth from like a mosquito so until they find this country the big bucks thrown to Israel to fund their mafia run government. I feel bad for the Israeli people who like out people here in the US are being used as pawns.

As far as Bush taking over the world Ill just say this. Bush is a puppet and he was a perfect puppet. The being the PTB chose someone who was cocky and thought he knew something but really was a dumb***. Bush fit this perfect. We America have been sucked dry. The AIDS virus knowns as the international bankers did this and soon we will be one of these 3rd would countries where you are really really rich or really really poor. It was fun while it lasted.

reply posted on 23-9-2008 @ 07:11 PM by SEEWHATUDO

reply to post by sheila947

And once again I have to ask...
Where, what whom do you get your information from? Do you/Have you ever lived or visited Iran? Do you have relatives or friends there?
I am very curious because there is no argument if you live there or have lived there or have first hand knowledge, you are right. But if not does that mean you are getting your information from the same sources the rest of the world is and if so could it not be biased info?
Just asking.

reply posted on 23-9-2008 @ 07:14 PM by Atlantican

reply to post by SEEWHATUDO

Well he can say what he likes and let his speech crafters attempt to smother the facts that homosexuals are killed by the state all the time, people are rounded up for walking alongside an unrelated/supervised woman while the woman is buried up to the neck and various stones are thrown with the intent to kill.

I only hope that this man is killed in the most inhumane way possible and that it is done on OUR SOIL.

reply posted on 23-9-2008 @ 07:16 PM by Alferd Packer

I love that SNL song about him.........classic!

Hes on Larry King tonight actually.

Poor Larry

reply posted on 23-9-2008 @ 07:19 PM by mybigunit

Originally posted by Atlantican
reply to post by SEEWHATUDO

Well he can say what he likes and let his speech crafters attempt to smother the facts that homosexuals are killed by the state all the time, people are rounded up for walking alongside an unrelated/supervised woman while the woman is buried up to the neck and various stones are thrown with the intent to kill.

I only hope that this man is killed in the most inhumane way possible and that it is done on OUR SOIL.

Once again how does this affect us? Why do we need to go invade and lose thousands of lives and finish the bankrupting of America off because these people choose to live in some theocracy. Im sure you can see why so many people are concerned about candidates that relate god with government and talking to god. Who wants this life over here?

reply posted on 23-9-2008 @ 07:22 PM by Alferd Packer

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Classic Video

reply posted on 23-9-2008 @ 07:35 PM by Night Watchman

reply to post by SEEWHATUDO

Please see my earlier post which contained a link to a website that provided a pretty damning picture of human rights in Iran.

And by the way, it's intellectually dishonest to suggest that only those who live in or have visited Iran can comment on the state of affairs there. Following that logic we couldn't comment on much of anything around here. Do you work for AIG? No, then you can't comment on them. Never been in the Oval Office? No? Then please don't criticize George Bush.

You see what I mean?>

reply posted on 23-9-2008 @ 07:43 PM by just-supposin

Ahmadinejad is no angel but neither are The U.S.
Remember why the U.S. went to war in Iraq? Saddam had Mass distruction weapons. Where are they none found so far. And from reading other posts we will soon be calling the U.S. the U.S.S.A ( United Socialist States of America)
This is from a European point of view just a little less blinded by everythig the politicians want us to believe.

[edit on 23-9-2008 by just-supposin]

reply posted on 23-9-2008 @ 08:05 PM by mark38

reply to post by SEEWHATUDO

Here you are the Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad speech in the U.N:

www.c-span.org...
.......................***************************...................................
If anybody is interested to read the translated letter that they accused him of saying that "HE WILL WIPE ISRAEL OF THE MAP " which is a LIE !
This letter was translated by a British/Iranian/Jewish.

Title: "Wiping Israel off the map"

Name: Jonathan

City: London State: England

I have no view on this Rabbi. What I wish to highlight is your fine newspaper`s false assumption that President Ahmadinejad of Iran threatened to "wipe Israel off the map." He did no such thing! And many of your readers are too well-informed to believe that he did.
Ahmadinejad was deliberately mistranslated. Even the Israeli website MEMRI admits this.
Ahmadinejad`s exact words:
"Imam (= Khomenei) ghoft (said) een (this) rezhim-e (regime) ishghalgar-e (occupying) qods (Jerusalem) bayed (must) az safleh-ye ruzgar (from the page of time) mahv shaval (vanish from)."
The word "Israel" is not mentioned". The word "map" is not mentioned. And the words "wipe from" is not mentioned. All Ahmadinejad did was to make a prediction that the present right-wing regime in Israel, with its extreme form of Zionism, would one day vanish from the page of history, i.e. just like the Roman Empire had its day and then vanished.
No threat to destroy Israel except in your mind!!!
Orthodox Jew.

reply posted on 23-9-2008 @ 08:09 PM by SciDoc

Being an Iranian myself, I find that this moron of a president has done nothing but set back economic reform and technological progress many decades. At least when we had Khamenei we saw talks of progress and reform.

This guy just knows how to spray s**t with gold and present it all pretty...when in fact it still is in fact smelly s**t.

I haven't watched his speech at the UN yet...but in all honesty, his words dont mean anything when you get to see the state of affairs in Iran.

I will end by saying that I still think GDubya and his cohort are the greatest "evil-doers" of the evil-doing.

reply posted on 23-9-2008 @ 08:10 PM by GhostR1der

Well... at least he hasn't invaded two countries.

Many of these government leaders are evil... you just don't see it day to day. I'd say he's just as bad as bush/whoever is in UK etc, but they have media propaganda and control structures which are more surreptitious and influential.

reply posted on 23-9-2008 @ 08:10 PM by SciDoc

Originally posted by mark38
reply to post by SEEWHATUDO

Here you are the Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad speech in the U.N:

www.c-span.org...
.......................***************************...................................
If anybody is interested to read the translated letter that they accused him of saying that "HE WILL WIPE ISRAEL OF THE MAP " which is a LIE !
This letter was translated by a British/Iranian/Jewish.

Title: "Wiping Israel off the map"

Name: Jonathan

City: London State: England

I have no view on this Rabbi. What I wish to highlight is your fine newspaper`s false assumption that President Ahmadinejad of Iran threatened to "wipe Israel off the map." He did no such thing! And many of your readers are too well-informed to believe that he did.
Ahmadinejad was deliberately mistranslated. Even the Israeli website MEMRI admits this.
Ahmadinejad`s exact words:
"Imam (= Khomenei) ghoft (said) een (this) rezhim-e (regime) ishghalgar-e (occupying) qods (Jerusalem) bayed (must) az safleh-ye ruzgar (from the page of time) mahv shaval (vanish from)."
The word "Israel" is not mentioned". The word "map" is not mentioned. And the words "wipe from" is not mentioned. All Ahmadinejad did was to make a prediction that the present right-wing regime in Israel, with its extreme form of Zionism, would one day vanish from the page of history, i.e. just like the Roman Empire had its day and then vanished.
No threat to destroy Israel except in your mind!!!
Orthodox Jew.

excellant translation Mark. If you need any further help with translating, i would be happy to assist.

reply posted on 23-9-2008 @ 08:17 PM by DeadFlagBlues

reply to post by SciDoc

Iran is an example of a country that has made considerable advances through education and training. Despite sanctions in almost all aspects of research during the past few decades, Persian scientists have been producing cutting-edge science. Their publication rate in international journals has quadrupled during the past decade.

How do you mean?

Source

reply posted on 23-9-2008 @ 08:24 PM by Alxandro

You've got to be kidding me, what is wrong with the left in this country?

First they uninvite Palin, then they embrace the nut job from Iran.

Why are libs so quick to side with the enemy but refuse to shake the hand of fellow countrymen just because they happen to be from the other side of the political fence?

reply posted on 23-9-2008 @ 08:28 PM by DeadFlagBlues

reply to post by Alxandro

Why is he our enemy?

reply posted on 23-9-2008 @ 08:32 PM by jackinthebox

Just some food for thought here people, but given our current financial straits I think it should be pointed out that Iran is one of five countries left on the planet that do not have a Rothschild controlled central bank. The others being North Korea, Cuba, Sudan and Libya. At last count anyway.

The video in this thread ties in with that as well. If you really want to know what the plan for Iran is, I suggest you watch this video. Some of this guy's predictions have already come true.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply posted on 23-9-2008 @ 08:35 PM by SciDoc

I agree that even with the harsh sanctions, my country has survived better than most would have done. I suppose it all depends on what you want to classify as reform. For me, Iran won't be reformed until religion and government have been separated.

The simple fact that I wouldn't be able to leave my home without wearing my "uniform" - hijab/roo-sari and mantau (overcoat) or that if I divorce my husband, he immediately gets full custody of the kids, or that if I was raped, my testimony is only worth half of that of a man....this is the Iran I am talking about.

Don't get me wrong...I love Iran. I am one of the most nationalistic people I know. I love my culture, my people and my history...It pains me that people simplify Iran into either the "axis-of-evil" or the land full of fundamentalists, when in reality, the country, its politics and its social structure are a lot more complex. I wish that people would learn more about Iran, its people and its history.

reply posted on 23-9-2008 @ 08:35 PM by Anonymous ATS