How to prepare for a depression

I have also felt the looming economic collapse. Living in New jersey there are just too many people here to live off the land.

Also what really scares me is that this isnt going to be like 1929 in one big scary way.
By this I mean we have had a total moral breakdown and decay in our society. There will NOT be your happy HOBO types riding the train around, there WILL be roving gangs of people taking whatever they want by force and taking advantage of the Mayhem as cover for thier own murderous rampages.
I think the best places to be would be warm coastal areas where u can fish for your food. Hunting will be dificult as the Gov will take away guns as the violence will escilate so rapidly they wont allow firearms.
Low populous areas will be the safest. But there will be no safe havens from those who would go great lengths to take what they need or want.

The Gov around the world will get together and people will accept any solution to ease thier suffering leading to a loss of rights and sovernty for all citizens.
For those who know the Biblical book of revalation. It seems easy to imagine this leading to a one world leader.

After reading all of your post, no one ever mentions peak and post oil. What is going on now is nothing compared to what we are going to see in the near future. Oil is a gift from nature for which man has wasted it for the past 150 years. You ain't seen nothing yet!

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My guns will leave my dead hands, empty of course.

Sadly, I have to agree.

If, we've passed the peak oil production and we really are in a post part of the curve then energy will just keep getting more expensive.

I do have to admit that I'd love to see the US ramp up wind and solar power as part of the recovery effort.

From my book, "Prepare Before All Hell Breaks Loose!

Here's a great nutritious bread recipe from the Bible, true manna. Ezekiel bread is a Biblical recipe for bread and is very nutritious.
Ezekiel bread
2 1/2 cups Hard Red Wheat or Kamut
1 1/2 cups Spelt or rye
1/2 cup Barley
1/4 cup Millet
1/4 cup Lentils
2 Tbsp Great Northern Beans
2 Tbsp Red Kidney Beans
2 Tbsp Pinto Beans
Mix all grains and beans in a large bowl and mill into a fine flour.
Measure into a large bowl: 4 cups warm water, 1 cup honey or brown or sugar, molasses, Add a little extra water if you choose to use dry sweeteners
1/2-cup oil (corn / olive/peanut),
2 Tbsp yeast/ instant yeast
Mix then set aside for 5 minutes~ mix will become frothy.
Measure the flours and add 2 or 3 tsp salt
Mix until batter is elastic – approximately 6 or 7 minutes.
Pour into 3 greased bread pans in even amounts.
Place pans in oven at 170 degrees for about 20 minutes. Allow bread to rise to within 1/2 inch of the top of the pan. Overfilling will leave your oven a real mess!
Once raised, turn the heat up to 350. Do not open the door or the bread will fall.
Bake at 350 degrees for approx. 25-30 minutes until the top is nicely browned.
Cool the bread on wire racks. Once completely cooled this bread may be frozen in freezer bags. Make sure you get out all the air before sealing the bag.
Beware, this bread is addicting!

Prepare for a Disaster Supplies Kit
Use a waterproof backpack or duffle bag. Store in a heavy plastic bag where you can reach in seconds.
Include: Bible
OTC pain meds
Basic First Aid book and kit, splint/ace bandage/tweezers/scissors
Bottled water, one gallon per person per day/ 3 days
Canned foods/ non-perishables/ high-energy foods/raisins/granola bars/peanut butter.
Can opener/plastic utensils/paper plates
Change of clothes, esp. socks, rain poncho, shoes
Blankets or sleeping bag/waterproof tent
Small tool kit/knife/ rope/ water proof matches
Important phone numbers/cell phone/pen/paper
Duct tape/ plastic sheeting/ compass
Sunglasses /Visor cap /Sunscreen
Compact umbrella
Flashlight/ extra batteries many
Small battery-powered radio
Infants, elderly, or disabled family members special care items.
Hand sanitizer/wipes
N95 mask/one per person as needed [avian flu]
Whistle on string for each person /Mace
Small portable sterno holder /sterno for cooking
Last minute additions
Prescription medicines
Important papers, [ID info, blood type, allergies, child’s photo]
kept in Zip lock bag
Cash /credit card
Eyeglasses
Car keys
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Emergency Food 3 days
Water 6 gal per person
Ready-to-eat canned meats, tuna,
Canned fruits and vegetables
Canned juices, Gatorade
Cup of soup & crackers
Peanut butter, jelly, bread
Granola bars, trail mix
Cookies, hard candy,
Ready-to–eat cereals
Instant coffee, tea bags
Vitamins
Special diet needs

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Supplies for long term
Household supplies
Bleach 10 gal
Dishwasher/ laundry detergent /soap
Paper plates/cups/utensils
Paper towels/napkins
Plastic Wrap/foil
Storage Bags/trash bags
Tissue/Toilet Paper
Medical
Antacid
Band-Aids
Cough Drops
First Aid Creams
Hydrogen Peroxide
Pain-Reliever
Rubbing Alcohol
Thermometer
Pet food/litter
Deodorant
Floss
Lotion
Petroleum Jelly
Razors
Shampoo
Shaving Cream
Soap
Toothbrush
Toothpaste
Vaseline
Feminine Supplies
Vitamins
Sunscreen
Baby Food
Diapers
Baby Wipes

Car checklist
Bible
Full tank of gas, never let your gas tank reach below 1/2
Strong battery
Tire kit / fix a flat can
Old rug for tire traction
Antifreeze
Check wipers and windshield washer fluid
Make sure the tires have adequate tread
Booster cables
Maps/compass
Small shovel
3 ft. "Call Police" sign
Tire repair kit and pump
Spare tire
Flares
First aid kit
Blanket/ sleeping bag
Warm hats/gloves
Water/gal for radiator
Matches/paper to start fire
Food/water
Emergency home supplies
A cord of well seasoned wood / clean chimney
or Kerosene heater and fuel matches
Newspaper /pine cones/ fire starters
Batteries 20+
Cook stove or sterno
4 heavy blankets and down blanket per person
Hats and gloves/warm slippers
Generator with heavy-duty ext. cord
Water purifier/filters
Garden tiller / non hybrid seeds/ fertilizer
Gas container 5 gal/gas preservative
Water-proof tents, shade canopy
Kerosene lamps/candles
Inflatable boat/life jackets
Insect repellant
Air pump
Tarp/rope/nails/shingles/tools
Rain barrels/ poly piping
Tarps for gathering water from roof
Suggested 6-12 month food list
Dried /canned fruits
Canned veggies /tomatoes
Baked, Butter, Kidney, Pinto, lima, navy, black northern beans
Split peas, lentils
Canned Chicken/ Meats Corned Beef
Salmon Tuna
Rice white [not brown]
Sugar, honey, salt condiments
Spaghetti noodles and sauce
Mac n cheese
Ramen soup
Flour pancake cake mix
Various noodles
Jell-O pudding
Chocolate Chips
Grits/ Oatmeal/ Cereal boxed
Crackers /Pretzels/popcorn
BBQ Sauce, soy sauce, mayo/condiments

Peanut Butter/ jelly
Olive /Vegetable Oil
Dressings
Candy/Cookies
Nuts
Soups canned and dried
Juice/ Gatorade
Tea/coffee/cream
Dry milk