700 Billion Dollar Bail Out The Real Solution?, page 1


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reply posted on 23-9-2008 @ 03:41 PM by GordonJQ
Bush asked for a war that wasn't needed.

And now he's trying to give 700billion to his friends. Not oine red cent will be seen by the little guy.

In fact the guy leading all this even said in an interview that only the super wealthy will be helped by this.
Here is my case in point
Originally posted by tommy_boy
Folks, Meet the Republican Party! The Mask is Finally Off!

Think about what has happened. The so-called Anti-Socialist Party (the repubs) has now socialized the debt of a massive economic corporate bailout to the American Taxpayer while privatizing the wealth. This is the same administration that also wants to hold YOU, the average American, accountable for your financial misfortunes, for your inability to pay your mortgage, while at the same time bailing out their corporate cronies, who apparently should not be burdened in the same way.

Think about this. If you got an Interest-Only loan for $450,000 that has adjusted, and you can no longer afford your payment, Bush and the repubs believe you should own your mistakes and lose your home. But now that the CEO's of Bear Stearns, AIG, Indymac, Countrywide, etc, have run their companies into the ground, YOU, the same person that needed help with your 450K loan, now have to own part of a massive Trillion Dollar Bailout debt of these mis-run and corrupt enterprises.

And for those of you that saw Fox News Sunday today (9/21/2008) with Sec. Paulson, he said when asked if this bailout for WALL STREET will also include assistance for MAINSTREET (e.g. the average home-owner that is getting screwed by bad loan terms), he admitted that the administration has no intention on bailing out the American consumer.

Only Wallstreet...

Only the wealthy...

[edit on 21-9-2008 by tommy_boy]

www.abovetopsecret.com...
Not sure I did it right. But here is the link to the topic the guy I quoted posted in.

[edit on 23-9-2008 by GordonJQ]



reply posted on 23-9-2008 @ 04:16 PM by GordonJQ
reply to post by jam321



A war the Preisdent demanded. A bail out the President demanded. EVerything goes back to the President as he's the Commander In Chief, the Leader.


reply posted on 23-9-2008 @ 04:34 PM by GordonJQ
reply to post by jam321



Except the Republicans in Office voted yes. The Republicans are leading the charge for giving 700billion dollars to their friends.

finance.yahoo.com...

Oops, people who aren't friends with those getting the money say it won't work.


reply posted on 23-9-2008 @ 05:16 PM by jam321
Blind, Sarcastic...hardly. But thanks anyway for a civil debate. Just cuz I don't see it your way of blaming one party isn't reason to go haywire.

The President daily saying give 700billion to his friends.


show me where he says these exact words. This is your spin. On top of that the President could say he wants to take over the world, blow up the moon and all Congress has to say is NO. It is all about checks and balances.

The Republicans trying to pass a bill that would give one man absolute power but the Democrats trying to pass another that would help the little man and keep control of the money with Congress as it should be.


Nobody has tried to pass a bill because there isn't one written up. They are in the process of trying to create one.

Republican anger at ‘financial socialism’


source

Seems like Republicans aren't too happy about this either.


If you have proof of the bills they are trying to pass please post the source.

By the way go back to my first post on this page and click on that secret $500 billion spending bill the Democrats are trying to pass.

better yet here is another quote with same source.

The legislation is coming together in a remarkably secretive process in which decisions are concentrated in the hands of just a few lawmakers such as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and House Appropriations Committee Chairman Dav


source

Guess this for the little guy also.


reply posted on 23-9-2008 @ 05:47 PM by jam321
GordonJQ, I told you already.

I don't support bailout for businesses or people losing their home. But you have to be realistic, Congress is going to pass something.

The reason is because if they don't and these businesses start to go under, many people are going to be affected. These are the ones you call little guys. This means many more people will have difficulty paying their bills, which will lead to more foreclosures and possibly more businesses failing. Like they say sh-- rolls downhill.

If they are able to save these companies it protects these jobs and keeps the economy afloat.

The thing is that with or without this money the rich people will survive.

Now like I said before, if Congress does it they need to write the laws to favor the taxpayers not the businesses. That remains to be seen. They are still debating and working on the bill.

Mercenary2007, I am awake and have been awake for a long time. Ask yourself how long people have been living off credit and then tell me if you didn't see this coming? As far as the CEO's they will still get their money because it is all based on a contract they signed. And if you really want to blame somebody look at Congress. They are the ones that put the pressure on these companies to help low income families obtain a home. Or are you going to tell me that these Congressmen were unaware of all of these high risk mortgages that these institutions were dishing out? Congress should have been proactive rather than reactive.

In 2004, as regulators warned that subprime lenders were saddling borrowers with mortgages they could not afford, the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development helped fuel more of that risky lending


source


reply posted on 23-9-2008 @ 05:54 PM by Mercenary2007
reply to post by jam321



Did you even read the post i linked to? yes congress is just as much to blame as the corrupt CEO's! Congress is the ones that changed the rules to limit the oversight and regulations after these same CEO's lobbied them to do so.

Also the same people that caused this are now suppose to fix it? yeah i'll believe that when i see it. this $700 billion bail out is going to be in the trillions with all the profits going to these same corrupt CEO's NOt the taxpayers!

Anyone that thinks this is going to even remotely help the taxpayers or the homeowners that need the help seriously needs to wake up.

and anyone that says that these CEO's should keep their golden parachutes is well i'd get banned for saying but i think your smart enough to figure it out.


reply posted on 23-9-2008 @ 06:05 PM by jam321
reply to post by Mercenary2007



I agree with you on what it is going to cost. Hell, my grandkids will probably still be paying for it. And I agree that CEO's shouldn't keep their precious bonuses, but they will.

Your coming through loud and clear. I was responding more to your wake up comment.

I don't want this bailout just like you. But this is election year and Congress will give in to get more votes. This bill will exceed what Bush is asking for by at least 500 billion as Congress tries to appease everybody.
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