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Cancellation of U.S. election now possible!

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posted on Sep, 24 2008 @ 12:00 AM
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Actually, my bet is that we'll have the "election" as usual, and as soon as George W leaves and we all breath a sigh of releif, the incoming president will pull the card.




posted on Sep, 24 2008 @ 12:04 AM
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Originally posted by Amaterasu

Originally posted by Agit8dChop
President bush has re-written so many laws, ignored so many laws and frankly ignored the will of the people.

yes, there may not be anything written that says he can, but judging by the last 8 years that doesnt mean anything to these criminals..


I was going to say the exact thing! Except that I would add all those secret presidential mandates, orders, whatever. Maybe one of THEM says the "Prez" is the Dictator.

Sheesh.


I seem to also remember that people (note! It doesn't say CITIZENS, like in other places) have a right to a trial by jury in the Constitution. He doesn't seem to be obeying that one.



posted on Sep, 24 2008 @ 12:20 AM
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Bush can't suspend the elections indefinitely that is against the law


Also about the emergency being declared the week of october 5th, That article about the guy calling the economic meltdown of the US also said something bad would happen october 7-8 with the economy again. freaky


[edit on 24-9-2008 by MoothyKnight]



posted on Sep, 24 2008 @ 12:57 AM
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Actually i believe this would be the only one and considering how crazy things have gotten since 2001 i would be more "baffled" by why someone such as yourself wouldn't keep a suspended election in mind.



posted on Sep, 24 2008 @ 01:34 AM
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Originally posted by Raud
One should be veeery careful when listening to reports about US internal affairs when the source is Russia.


I have to agree, the article doesn't ring with any truth for me. However, I don't put the current administration past another false-flag terror op to further their agenda, time is running out, so maybe we get an election and everyone can get on with another 4 years of diebolds candidate of choosing.



posted on Sep, 24 2008 @ 04:16 AM
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Its one possible scenario, I don't think its a likely one at this point. They will just stick in their next guy. Heads or tails, it won't matter.



posted on Sep, 24 2008 @ 04:43 AM
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can we please do something to stop all these sorcha faal posts. Maybe a filter or something? Everyday there is one of these outlandish uproven "news stories".



posted on Sep, 24 2008 @ 04:55 AM
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Sounds to me like a bunch of eight year olds playing baseball and one kid says,
"If I can't be the Pitcher, then I'm taking my baseball and going home, then no one can play, cause I have the only ball"



posted on Sep, 24 2008 @ 05:28 AM
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Originally posted by nyk537
There will be an election in November. Bush will be leaving office shortly after. There is nothing going on here except wild conspiracy theory. This talk of canceling the election is some of the more "out there" talk I've ever heard.

Some people amaze me with their paranoia.


GOOD god knee pads and French ticklers...



posted on Sep, 24 2008 @ 07:17 AM
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Originally posted by nyk537
There will be an election in November. Bush will be leaving office shortly after. There is nothing going on here except wild conspiracy theory. This talk of canceling the election is some of the more "out there" talk I've ever heard.

Some people amaze me with their paranoia.


Wait and see what happeneds before you make your decision, its very very possible, to be honest, you're the one that amazes me, that the way your country is going at the moment and you still cant see this possibility.. Open your eyes my friend, theres a good chance that you will be eating your words..



posted on Sep, 24 2008 @ 07:26 AM
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It is a distinct possibility they will postpone if the Bail out plan is refused.



posted on Sep, 24 2008 @ 07:32 AM
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Wait and see what happeneds before you make your decision, its very very possible, to be honest, you're the one that amazes me, that the way your country is going at the moment and you still cant see this possibility.. Open your eyes my friend, theres a good chance that you will be eating your words..


Spoken as someone who does not understand the American people. If you want to take this to it's worst possible outcome and predict a depression (which is not going to happen) what would lead people to believe that would result in a complete dissolving of American Society.

We can go back to the Great Depression if you'd like. Are you familiar with that portion of US history? Did people riot in the streets?

Again, for those too young to have lived in a United States facing difficult times or if you have never lived here, I guess I wouldn't expect you to understand.



posted on Sep, 24 2008 @ 07:53 AM
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I saw a quote some posts back from the US Constitution so I'd like to mention a couple of other parts that might have some bearing on this. Article II sect. 1 tells us:

the Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors and the Day on which they shall give their Votes;


which seems to say that even if the public-based elections on the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November are delayed, the time when the EC meets is determined by Congress, not the President. But seeing as the new President must take office at noon on Jan 20 2009, it would be helpful to have the new President chosen by then as GWB cannot continue as President after that moment. I don't think the Constitution allows the President to over-ride its power in this regard, martial law or emergency notwithstanding. Doesn't look like it anyway.

On the other hand I'm not a lawyer...



posted on Sep, 24 2008 @ 08:31 AM
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The only certain way for the US President to cancel the upcoming elections is if a natural disaster or terrorist attack worse than 9/11/2001 happens that might kill off a majority of Congress.



posted on Sep, 24 2008 @ 08:41 AM
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Everyone, remember our motto: "DENY IGNORANCE."

I think the key to this article is in the lede graph: This "news" is being leaked by the FSB (a.k.a. the KGB).

This is pure and simple psyop propoganda meant to tickle suspicions already cemented on the left in America and stoke them into all-out outrage and protest. Russia has a golden opportunity against us right now -- almost like turnabout is fair play in their eyes. We helped hasten their financial collapse back in '89 and now they're doing their part to hasten ours.

Be on the lookout for more stories about cancelled elections, economic collapse, secret meetings never mentioned by the MSM in other leftist-leaning and underground Web sites as the FSB increases its psyop activities against the U.S.



posted on Sep, 24 2008 @ 09:22 AM
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im not a lawyer

im not a constitutional genius or scholar

but i am sick of hearing that bush is going to stop the next election forever

its been said over and over and over and over for over a year

but one thing absent from this whole situation

is ANY sort of PROOF or clauses or anything AT ALL that shows EXACTLY how a president or faction of the american govt can enact that situation

what part of the constitution allows for this??

who in the govt would truly stand for such a thing?? (ok maybe the powers that be wouldnt mind it but come on, the only way they can do their dirty work is by making us think theres no dirty work, so why try something so blatantly f'd up when they could achieve the same results by just putting the next guy in power)

i know this is a conspiracy board

and im not saying that its not possible...because i dont know

but damn

with as many threads and people saying all this crap

wheres the actually evidence that proves this can even happen???

and if those saying its going to happen really think its going to happen...then show on here how something like that could possibly happen...then that way when it does...its right here in black and white and its proof of a conspiracy and we just revolt with no questions asked


to me this just seems like the story about the boy who cried wolf except this one the village has no clue what a wolf is ...theres just some crazy boy running around crying and everyones wondering what the hell hes talking about

[edit on 24-9-2008 by Dramey]



posted on Sep, 24 2008 @ 09:24 AM
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posted on Sep, 24 2008 @ 09:31 AM
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Originally posted by pluckynoonez
In related news: Snuffleupagus trashes Wall Street, thousands flee in terror, elections suspended....


Et tu, Snuffe? :shk:

 


I generally don't give any credence to Sorcha Faal, and I highly doubt that Faal has the facts straight with this story.

That said, the cards are falling into place for something big. No bail out means that our economy grinds to a hault; however, printing off an extra 700 billion will likely lead to hyper inflation. Tensions are already high in the south from the gas shortages there, and we've got a brigade coming back from Iraq the first week of Oct. for civil unrest preparedness at home. If the SHTF Bush.co has already put in place the Patriot Act and a bunch of EOs that allow him to suspend the Constitution indefinitely; yes, that includes the election process.

Personally, I tend to agree that Bush can't wait to get out of officce and flee to his land in Paraguay. In 2005 Paraguay passed a law that allows the country to grant immunity to U.S. military, including the Commander-in-Chief, from the International Criminal Court if indicted for war crimes or crimes against humanity; however, I've heard that they may have recently rescinded their non-extradition law; so he may need to find a new location for "Crawford II".

Presently, I'm more concerned that something may happen to Bush (think JFK with a "terrorist" twist), and that Cheney would be the one to reap the benefits of all of those dictatorial powers granted through Bush's EOs. A "terrorist attack" would be just the thing to divert the public consciousness away from our no oversight bailout package that they've been working on "over previous months and weeks" yet are only allowing lawmakers days to peruse before it must be passed.


Whatever happens, it certainly is an exciting/scary time to be alive.

[edit on 9/24/08 by redmage]



posted on Sep, 24 2008 @ 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by redmage
...Bush.co has already put in place the Patriot Act and a bunch of EOs that allow him to suspend the Constitution indefinitely; yes, that includes the election process.
[edit on 9/24/08 by redmage]

As I've stated on ATS more than once I'm not an American, so I don't claim to be always up to speed on what the US President is doing by way of Executive Orders and so forth. I don't claim to be any expert on law, either. But what you say puzzles me, because as I understand it, the US President is empowered to act in any matter only because that power is given under the US Constitution and is well defined by that document. If, then, the US President were to suspend the Constitution, indefinitely or otherwise, doesn't that mean that at that moment he no longer has the benefit of its legal authority and hence could not do anything as President? I am not saying your statement is false, just trying to work out this seeming conundrum.

I'd also be very grateful if you could cite/link the actual documents that give the US President the right and power to suspend the Constitution, because I'm not aware of them and in the spirit of "deny ignorance" I would appreciate the chance to read them and learn something. For if any US President (and I'm thinking of the future and not only now) can indeed suspend the Constitution, then its "Bill of Rights" amendments would no longer apply and the power of the elected Congress would also be nil -- and I find that worrying. You have said that there are a "bunch of EOs" related to this. Does that mean these Executive Orders have greater power than the Constitution? I'd sincerely like to know for I feel that if that's true then I've been grievously misled, and perhaps I'm not the only one.

Many thanks in anticipation of your help and advice,

Mike



posted on Sep, 24 2008 @ 11:27 AM
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Do you truly think they lost the cold war? The cold war was staged to justify spending trillions on keeping us safe form the big bad russians. Just realize that there will always be a bad guy. The worst thing that happened to our economy was peace with russia. Remember they were paying people to leave the military in the early 90's late 80's. My Navigator got 40K to leave and had she took the first offer more like 90K but she didn't want to leave and gambled. But it is hard to justify buying B-2's and guns that shoot around corners and new hummers with out a reason. Terrorism fit the bill when the Cold War ended. Actually terrorist are the best because you can not stop someone from believing a certain way. And all you have to do to keep the lie going is blow up a hotel in any middle east country, set off a bomb in any country really and blame it on terrorists. No one is the wiser and the American sheeple will allow the Gov to spend trillions on safety.



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