OK, finally i have some minutes
Thanks again to acidstatic for starting this here and to some of my favourite posters who gathered in this discussion.
What is important to know about the UFO from Aviano:
- The video, in VHS format, was given ANONYMOUSLY to an italian freelance researcher, Antonio Chiumiento, who is an ufologist.
- In the box containing the film, there was written " I fear".
- One year after, it has been sent to other researchers: so far, is NOT clear who sent the copies to whom.
- The VHS in question was esteemed to be a seventh generation one; this means that the original footage was copied to another magnetic tape, then
from there was copied to another magnetic tape, then copied to another magnetic tape and so on until it was copied to the VHS in question. Every time
that you make a copy you leave some "fingerprints": they were found during the analysis. This means a HUGE loss of data, and raises the first
doubts: was this series of copies a deliberate attemp to hide something, or was simply the result of some process involving a specific hyerarchical
order? The most logical explanation is the second one: if one was playing with CGI then he would have been able to hide the details wanted without a
general loss of data.
- Aviano is what you would call the perfect UFO hotspot: i've been there for some time, and especially the old people recall to have spotted UFOS
that in some days were visible at breakfast, at lunch and at dinner. We are talking about people who shared their stories with me, in front of a fire,
no attention seekers, no paranoid.
- Aviano AFB is claimed to be the european Area 51 (more properly, AS4): people see airplanes landing and literally disappear below the level of the
ground.
- The (relatively) better quality of the video on youtube is this one,
titled "UFO over a river in italy": it.youtube.com...
- This is the video of the first time it has been disclosed on TV:
www.youtube.com...
- The footage was taken here:
- This is a closeup of the sighting area
- Some guys went to the area f the sighting time after the sighting took place, and took some pics:
- This is the distance between Aviano AFB and the sighting location:
On Google Earth, THIS Ponte di Giulio does not appear in the search results (The column visible in the film is the one of a hydroelectric grid).
These are more or less the elements available regarding this footage. This video, was claimed to have been debunked because some guy called a local TV
ANONYMOUSLY and claimed to be the author of the footage, a CGI.
BUT
He never provided the native 3d model etc (for instance, look what did Barzolff provided about UFO haiti)
He claimed to be able to duplicate it in "half an hour" starting from ZERO: EVERYONE who has even a rough knowledge in CGI knows that half an hour
is barely enough to decide what general shape to give to the UFO, not to mention its 3d appearance, its texture, its reflection, the environment,
etcetera. Keep also in mind that this is supposed to be a POST PROCESSING CGI: a post processed UFO is EXTREMELY hard to be created:
you have to make reflections, shadows, motion blur etc consistent with what was previously caught on tape: at the time, there weren't serious motion
tracking softwares available: i mean yes, there were some, but they weren't user friendly at all.
The guy who called the TV was a crock, plain and simple.
Today it would be easy to create it, at the time it was NOT.
Today we have Maya, Rhinoceros, Poser etc for 3d modelling, we have all the VUE series, after effects etcetera: at the time, the really powerful
software were mostly based on command lines, not exactly what you would expect by some guy who wants to make some prank.
The footage was examined in Hollywood by Rob and Rebecca Gordon: their take was that the object seen in the footage was an actual one.
The attempts to debunk the video.
Mostly the attempts to debunk it were good for a laugh, but some of them were absolutely to be taken seriously.
The motion blur:
This is a technical detail that by itself is able to debunk the majority of CGI UFOs: no exceptional skills are needed, you just have to train your
eyes.
when you have to give to some object the motion effect, you can use a trick: basically, the trick is to "anticipate" its movement, frame by
frame.
Now, whatch this video:
www.youtube.com...
In cases like this one, you'd have to watch at the video frame by frame when it closes up:
some of these people, is used to superimpose the object as it will appear in the next frame to the current one, in order to create "a motion blur
like" effect: the more is detailed the image, the more you have some chances to spot it: in this case it's obvious.
Now, look carefully at this sequence:
you will notice that the "cloned" part falls exactly where the object will fall in the next frame:
basically, it anticipates its movement.
The advantage of this technique is that when one watches the video in real time may get a very convincing motion blur effect, and the general
impression is the one of a REAL object; its fault, has been roughly explained above: the trick by itself is a fingerprint.
The motion blur spotted in the Aviano footage is consistent with the one expected from a REAL object: don't think that in hollywood they made some
ultra-advanced analysis: they just made this check, watching the footage in some huge screens, frame by frame, for some hundreds of times
Now, show me where the motion blur is anticipated, and you will have debunked the Aviano UFO footage.
In my opinion, what we see is some unmanned military aircraft, and the last part was simply accelerated in order to create the ultra-hight-speed
effect.
This is, more or less, what i know about this story: i don't want to convince anyone, i'm happy when someone tries to prove me wrong with some valid
points, so feel free to argue: this is what a forum is made for.
[edit on 24/9/2008 by internos]
